What really is the problem with these gaming sites.

[KillRoy]

Re: What really is the problem with these gaming sites.

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They only really focus on the main releases.

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and graphics. i don`t think graphics should be such a HUGE factor in reviewing a sports game. but to these reviewers it is. like if iverson has the wrong tatoo its a big deal to them. my gosh... its just a tatoo, it has nothing to do with the gameplay!

[cappadocian]

Re: What really is the problem with these gaming sites.

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Yeah the only problem I have with reviews is that they affect sales. If every site had written that ID is the best sim and it has this and that, cures the cancer and brings world peace people would've buy it more then they do.

ID is the best basketball game in several parts of the game and it deserves to get props for those parts.

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Why does it matter to you what the sales numbers are? Are you interested in playing the game, or trying to get a marketing job? Just play the game, and if you like, then tell your friends. That is how sales numbers are increased or decreased. Yes, a lot of people read reviews but I will bet my right *** cheek that if I went down to:

(a) game stores in the mall
(b) GameStop at one of the local strips
(c) Staples
(d) Wal-Mart
(e) KBToys
(f) K-Mart

and took a poll of everyone in the stores, less than 10% of those polled will have even heard of game reviews. Of course, I could lose a little weight off my back-side, so it's safe to say that my numbers are MY theory. Bottom line is that not nearly as many people base their gaming decisions off reviews as you might imagine!

[cappadocian]

Re: What really is the problem with these gaming sites.

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Yeah the only problem I have with reviews is that they affect sales. If every site had written that ID is the best sim and it has this and that, cures the cancer and brings world peace people would've buy it more then they do.

ID is the best basketball game in several parts of the game and it deserves to get props for those parts.

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Why does it matter to you what the sales numbers are? Are you interested in playing the game, or trying to get a marketing job? Just play the game, and if you like, then tell your friends. That is how sales numbers are increased or decreased. Yes, a lot of people read reviews but I will bet my right *** cheek that if I went down to:

(a) game stores in the mall
(b) GameStop at one of the local strips
(c) Staples
(d) Wal-Mart
(e) KBToys
(f) K-Mart

and took a poll of everyone in the stores, less than 10% of those polled will have even heard of game reviews. Of course, I could lose a little weight off my back-side, so it's safe to say that my numbers are MY theory. Bottom line is that not nearly as many people base their gaming decisions off reviews as you might imagine!

[cappadocian]

Re: What really is the problem with these gaming sites.

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Yeah the only problem I have with reviews is that they affect sales. If every site had written that ID is the best sim and it has this and that, cures the cancer and brings world peace people would've buy it more then they do.

ID is the best basketball game in several parts of the game and it deserves to get props for those parts.

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Why does it matter to you what the sales numbers are? Are you interested in playing the game, or trying to get a marketing job? Just play the game, and if you like, then tell your friends. That is how sales numbers are increased or decreased. Yes, a lot of people read reviews but I will bet my right *** cheek that if I went down to:

(a) game stores in the mall
(b) GameStop at one of the local strips
(c) Staples
(d) Wal-Mart
(e) KBToys
(f) K-Mart

and took a poll of everyone in the stores, less than 10% of those polled will have even heard of game reviews. Of course, I could lose a little weight off my back-side, so it's safe to say that my numbers are MY theory. Bottom line is that not nearly as many people base their gaming decisions off reviews as you might imagine!

[cappadocian]

Re: What really is the problem with these gaming sites.

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Maybe so, but at the very least MENTION those sliders, and possibly how effective they are. They don't have to review a game based on adjusted sliders, but they should give that one caveat that sliders could fix most of the game's gameplay problems. Either way, the reviewer obviously was ill-suited to review the game.

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Wrong. Sliders are nothing more than a cop-out (though you can't blame them to some extent) from having to spend large resources toward testing, designing and implementing sports realism in games. It's funny how a lot of people say "but, you can't please EVERYONE!", but how many of those folks do you SERIOUSLY think would CHOOSE to buy a game that ISN'T realistic? Realism will ALWAYS sell, but implementing it is another story. It has nothing to do with trying to please the masses, everything to do with lack of resources and management of those resources. Therefore, sliders should NOT be mentioned in reviews, because a truely realistic game wouldn't have them in the first place!

[cappadocian]

Re: What really is the problem with these gaming sites.

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Maybe so, but at the very least MENTION those sliders, and possibly how effective they are. They don't have to review a game based on adjusted sliders, but they should give that one caveat that sliders could fix most of the game's gameplay problems. Either way, the reviewer obviously was ill-suited to review the game.

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Wrong. Sliders are nothing more than a cop-out (though you can't blame them to some extent) from having to spend large resources toward testing, designing and implementing sports realism in games. It's funny how a lot of people say "but, you can't please EVERYONE!", but how many of those folks do you SERIOUSLY think would CHOOSE to buy a game that ISN'T realistic? Realism will ALWAYS sell, but implementing it is another story. It has nothing to do with trying to please the masses, everything to do with lack of resources and management of those resources. Therefore, sliders should NOT be mentioned in reviews, because a truely realistic game wouldn't have them in the first place!

[cappadocian]

Re: What really is the problem with these gaming sites.

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Maybe so, but at the very least MENTION those sliders, and possibly how effective they are. They don't have to review a game based on adjusted sliders, but they should give that one caveat that sliders could fix most of the game's gameplay problems. Either way, the reviewer obviously was ill-suited to review the game.

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Wrong. Sliders are nothing more than a cop-out (though you can't blame them to some extent) from having to spend large resources toward testing, designing and implementing sports realism in games. It's funny how a lot of people say "but, you can't please EVERYONE!", but how many of those folks do you SERIOUSLY think would CHOOSE to buy a game that ISN'T realistic? Realism will ALWAYS sell, but implementing it is another story. It has nothing to do with trying to please the masses, everything to do with lack of resources and management of those resources. Therefore, sliders should NOT be mentioned in reviews, because a truely realistic game wouldn't have them in the first place!

[neovsmatrix]

Re: What really is the problem with these gaming sites.

You're obviously very deluded. First off, you already admit that games can't completely emulate reality. So why would game reviewers even pretend to think that the games CAN? A game reviewer has to INFORM his readers about the game: both good and bad points, and then provide a personal opinion. That's what a GOOD reviewer should do. Very few reviewers do it, though. I can understand why to some extent: limited staff, limited amount of time. But then, what is the point of reviews if not to inform the readers of what the game's qualities are? And yes, sliders are very much a part of the game and NEED to be mentioned, ESPECIALLY to note how effective they are in resolving issues.

By the way, people have very different conceptions about what constitutes good D, how good should shooting percentages be, and people have different playing styles. Sliders ALLOW for that latitude, and while I was initially against sliders, now I'm for them. I actually like the fact they're there, as long as they work properly and aren't arbitrarily designed to provide more of something just because a slider is set to it.

[neovsmatrix]

Re: What really is the problem with these gaming sites.

You're obviously very deluded. First off, you already admit that games can't completely emulate reality. So why would game reviewers even pretend to think that the games CAN? A game reviewer has to INFORM his readers about the game: both good and bad points, and then provide a personal opinion. That's what a GOOD reviewer should do. Very few reviewers do it, though. I can understand why to some extent: limited staff, limited amount of time. But then, what is the point of reviews if not to inform the readers of what the game's qualities are? And yes, sliders are very much a part of the game and NEED to be mentioned, ESPECIALLY to note how effective they are in resolving issues.

By the way, people have very different conceptions about what constitutes good D, how good should shooting percentages be, and people have different playing styles. Sliders ALLOW for that latitude, and while I was initially against sliders, now I'm for them. I actually like the fact they're there, as long as they work properly and aren't arbitrarily designed to provide more of something just because a slider is set to it.

[neovsmatrix]

Re: What really is the problem with these gaming sites.

You're obviously very deluded. First off, you already admit that games can't completely emulate reality. So why would game reviewers even pretend to think that the games CAN? A game reviewer has to INFORM his readers about the game: both good and bad points, and then provide a personal opinion. That's what a GOOD reviewer should do. Very few reviewers do it, though. I can understand why to some extent: limited staff, limited amount of time. But then, what is the point of reviews if not to inform the readers of what the game's qualities are? And yes, sliders are very much a part of the game and NEED to be mentioned, ESPECIALLY to note how effective they are in resolving issues.

By the way, people have very different conceptions about what constitutes good D, how good should shooting percentages be, and people have different playing styles. Sliders ALLOW for that latitude, and while I was initially against sliders, now I'm for them. I actually like the fact they're there, as long as they work properly and aren't arbitrarily designed to provide more of something just because a slider is set to it.

[vinnievegas69]

Re: What really is the problem with these gaming sites.

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Wrong. Sliders are nothing more than a cop-out (though you can't blame them to some extent) from having to spend large resources toward testing, designing and implementing sports realism in games. It's funny how a lot of people say "but, you can't please EVERYONE!", but how many of those folks do you SERIOUSLY think would CHOOSE to buy a game that ISN'T realistic? Realism will ALWAYS sell, but implementing it is another story. It has nothing to do with trying to please the masses, everything to do with lack of resources and management of those resources. Therefore, sliders should NOT be mentioned in reviews, because a truely realistic game wouldn't have them in the first place!

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By this same extent, even if a game has various difficulty settings, it should only be reviewed on it's default setting
So if a game is by default set to its easiest level, then reviewers should mark it down for being too easy instead of noting that you can change this.

It is the exact same thing with sliders in sports games. If you can change it, then they can't say that it's a bad point of the game. No two people are going to want the game to be exactly the same, so sliders are a necessity.

[vinnievegas69]

Re: What really is the problem with these gaming sites.

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Wrong. Sliders are nothing more than a cop-out (though you can't blame them to some extent) from having to spend large resources toward testing, designing and implementing sports realism in games. It's funny how a lot of people say "but, you can't please EVERYONE!", but how many of those folks do you SERIOUSLY think would CHOOSE to buy a game that ISN'T realistic? Realism will ALWAYS sell, but implementing it is another story. It has nothing to do with trying to please the masses, everything to do with lack of resources and management of those resources. Therefore, sliders should NOT be mentioned in reviews, because a truely realistic game wouldn't have them in the first place!

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By this same extent, even if a game has various difficulty settings, it should only be reviewed on it's default setting
So if a game is by default set to its easiest level, then reviewers should mark it down for being too easy instead of noting that you can change this.

It is the exact same thing with sliders in sports games. If you can change it, then they can't say that it's a bad point of the game. No two people are going to want the game to be exactly the same, so sliders are a necessity.

[vinnievegas69]

Re: What really is the problem with these gaming sites.

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Wrong. Sliders are nothing more than a cop-out (though you can't blame them to some extent) from having to spend large resources toward testing, designing and implementing sports realism in games. It's funny how a lot of people say "but, you can't please EVERYONE!", but how many of those folks do you SERIOUSLY think would CHOOSE to buy a game that ISN'T realistic? Realism will ALWAYS sell, but implementing it is another story. It has nothing to do with trying to please the masses, everything to do with lack of resources and management of those resources. Therefore, sliders should NOT be mentioned in reviews, because a truely realistic game wouldn't have them in the first place!

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By this same extent, even if a game has various difficulty settings, it should only be reviewed on it's default setting
So if a game is by default set to its easiest level, then reviewers should mark it down for being too easy instead of noting that you can change this.

It is the exact same thing with sliders in sports games. If you can change it, then they can't say that it's a bad point of the game. No two people are going to want the game to be exactly the same, so sliders are a necessity.

[Blue_Monkey]

Re: What really is the problem with these gaming sites.

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You're obviously very deluded. First off, you already admit that games can't completely emulate reality. So why would game reviewers even pretend to think that the games CAN? A game reviewer has to INFORM his readers about the game: both good and bad points, and then provide a personal opinion. That's what a GOOD reviewer should do. Very few reviewers do it, though. I can understand why to some extent: limited staff, limited amount of time. But then, what is the point of reviews if not to inform the readers of what the game's qualities are? And yes, sliders are very much a part of the game and NEED to be mentioned, ESPECIALLY to note how effective they are in resolving issues.

By the way, people have very different conceptions about what constitutes good D, how good should shooting percentages be, and people have different playing styles. Sliders ALLOW for that latitude, and while I was initially against sliders, now I'm for them. I actually like the fact they're there, as long as they work properly and aren't arbitrarily designed to provide more of something just because a slider is set to it.

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Nailed

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By this same extent, even if a game has various difficulty settings, it should only be reviewed on it's default setting
So if a game is by default set to its easiest level, then reviewers should mark it down for being too easy instead of noting that you can change this.

It is the exact same thing with sliders in sports games. If you can change it, then they can't say that it's a bad point of the game. No two people are going to want the game to be exactly the same, so sliders are a necessity.

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Nailed.

[Blue_Monkey]

Re: What really is the problem with these gaming sites.

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You're obviously very deluded. First off, you already admit that games can't completely emulate reality. So why would game reviewers even pretend to think that the games CAN? A game reviewer has to INFORM his readers about the game: both good and bad points, and then provide a personal opinion. That's what a GOOD reviewer should do. Very few reviewers do it, though. I can understand why to some extent: limited staff, limited amount of time. But then, what is the point of reviews if not to inform the readers of what the game's qualities are? And yes, sliders are very much a part of the game and NEED to be mentioned, ESPECIALLY to note how effective they are in resolving issues.

By the way, people have very different conceptions about what constitutes good D, how good should shooting percentages be, and people have different playing styles. Sliders ALLOW for that latitude, and while I was initially against sliders, now I'm for them. I actually like the fact they're there, as long as they work properly and aren't arbitrarily designed to provide more of something just because a slider is set to it.

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Nailed

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By this same extent, even if a game has various difficulty settings, it should only be reviewed on it's default setting
So if a game is by default set to its easiest level, then reviewers should mark it down for being too easy instead of noting that you can change this.

It is the exact same thing with sliders in sports games. If you can change it, then they can't say that it's a bad point of the game. No two people are going to want the game to be exactly the same, so sliders are a necessity.

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Nailed.