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  • bamalam
    MVP
    • Nov 2002
    • 1407

    #61
    Re: Can\'t believe it but the FG att. and rebound stat bug is a gamekiller

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    Blue_Monkey said:
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    laker8la said:
    First of all, lets get one thing straight, if you are fouled in the act of shooting, it is not counted as a FG attempt, unless the basket goes in.

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    Yes, it is. If it's a real shot. I checked.

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    i didn't think a missed shot when the shooter is fouled, is counted as a fga. otherwise, fg % would be meaningless. where did you check this?

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    • laker8la
      Rookie
      • Mar 2003
      • 280

      #62
      Re: Can\'t believe it but the FG att. and rebound stat bug is a gamekiller

      I hate to be argumentative, but I am afraid the information you got is incorrect. If you are fouled on the shot, unless the basket goes in, you are not credited with a shot attempt. I am a statistician and know this is a fact. If the shot goes in, then yes you get credited with a shot attempt and a shot make.

      No game is perfect, and each and every game has its flaws in the stat sheet. Since I shoot such a high percentage from the floor, I don't mind them counting a shot in the act of being fouled, it helps lower my FG %. NBA teams shoot in the low to mid 40s on average, but in all these games I always seem to shoot in the 50s or higher. Inside Drive, with the correct settings, keeps me in the mid-high 40s. If those extra shot ATT while being fouled in the act of shooting help keep my percentage there, then I don't mind it.

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      • laker8la
        Rookie
        • Mar 2003
        • 280

        #63
        Re: Can\'t believe it but the FG att. and rebound stat bug is a gamekiller

        I hate to be argumentative, but I am afraid the information you got is incorrect. If you are fouled on the shot, unless the basket goes in, you are not credited with a shot attempt. I am a statistician and know this is a fact. If the shot goes in, then yes you get credited with a shot attempt and a shot make.

        No game is perfect, and each and every game has its flaws in the stat sheet. Since I shoot such a high percentage from the floor, I don't mind them counting a shot in the act of being fouled, it helps lower my FG %. NBA teams shoot in the low to mid 40s on average, but in all these games I always seem to shoot in the 50s or higher. Inside Drive, with the correct settings, keeps me in the mid-high 40s. If those extra shot ATT while being fouled in the act of shooting help keep my percentage there, then I don't mind it.

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        • laker8la
          Rookie
          • Mar 2003
          • 280

          #64
          Re: Can\'t believe it but the FG att. and rebound stat bug is a gamekiller

          I hate to be argumentative, but I am afraid the information you got is incorrect. If you are fouled on the shot, unless the basket goes in, you are not credited with a shot attempt. I am a statistician and know this is a fact. If the shot goes in, then yes you get credited with a shot attempt and a shot make.

          No game is perfect, and each and every game has its flaws in the stat sheet. Since I shoot such a high percentage from the floor, I don't mind them counting a shot in the act of being fouled, it helps lower my FG %. NBA teams shoot in the low to mid 40s on average, but in all these games I always seem to shoot in the 50s or higher. Inside Drive, with the correct settings, keeps me in the mid-high 40s. If those extra shot ATT while being fouled in the act of shooting help keep my percentage there, then I don't mind it.

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          • dano
            Pro
            • May 2003
            • 788

            #65
            Re: Can\'t believe it but the FG att. and rebound stat bug is a gamekiller

            this does not bother me so much. but what bothers me is the game goign to the online screen after a game. i cannot save and i lose the game i just played. this happens once in a while. i decided to post here to see if anyone has a cure?

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            • dano
              Pro
              • May 2003
              • 788

              #66
              Re: Can\'t believe it but the FG att. and rebound stat bug is a gamekiller

              this does not bother me so much. but what bothers me is the game goign to the online screen after a game. i cannot save and i lose the game i just played. this happens once in a while. i decided to post here to see if anyone has a cure?

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              • dano
                Pro
                • May 2003
                • 788

                #67
                Re: Can\'t believe it but the FG att. and rebound stat bug is a gamekiller

                this does not bother me so much. but what bothers me is the game goign to the online screen after a game. i cannot save and i lose the game i just played. this happens once in a while. i decided to post here to see if anyone has a cure?

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                • Blue_Monkey
                  MVP
                  • Oct 2002
                  • 1107

                  #68
                  Re: Can\'t believe it but the FG att. and rebound stat bug is a gamekiller

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                  bamalam said:
                  i didn't think a missed shot when the shooter is fouled, is counted as a fga. otherwise, fg % would be meaningless. where did you check this?

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                  laker8la said:
                  I hate to be argumentative, but I am afraid the information you got is incorrect. If you are fouled on the shot, unless the basket goes in, you are not credited with a shot attempt. I am a statistician and know this is a fact. If the shot goes in, then yes you get credited with a shot attempt and a shot make.

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                  I checked this thing myself. I watched three games and marked every shot. Missed shooting fouls too. The results I got were almost exactly the same that were marked in the official box scores.

                  laker8la, this is strange. You seem to know what you're talking about but had I not counted the missed shooting foul shots, every game would've totaled way too few shot attempts according to the official stats.

                  Try doing what I did and see what you get, guys. To me it seems like proper shots that are missed are counted as FG attempts. But in real NBA games there are usually several shooting fouls where there is no proper shot. "Shots" where the player is clearly going to shoot and gets something similar to a shot going but in reality there is no shot and it doesn't show up in the box score.

                  These kinds of "no-shot" shooting fouls should exist in video games too.

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                  • Blue_Monkey
                    MVP
                    • Oct 2002
                    • 1107

                    #69
                    Re: Can\'t believe it but the FG att. and rebound stat bug is a gamekiller

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                    bamalam said:
                    i didn't think a missed shot when the shooter is fouled, is counted as a fga. otherwise, fg % would be meaningless. where did you check this?

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                    laker8la said:
                    I hate to be argumentative, but I am afraid the information you got is incorrect. If you are fouled on the shot, unless the basket goes in, you are not credited with a shot attempt. I am a statistician and know this is a fact. If the shot goes in, then yes you get credited with a shot attempt and a shot make.

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                    I checked this thing myself. I watched three games and marked every shot. Missed shooting fouls too. The results I got were almost exactly the same that were marked in the official box scores.

                    laker8la, this is strange. You seem to know what you're talking about but had I not counted the missed shooting foul shots, every game would've totaled way too few shot attempts according to the official stats.

                    Try doing what I did and see what you get, guys. To me it seems like proper shots that are missed are counted as FG attempts. But in real NBA games there are usually several shooting fouls where there is no proper shot. "Shots" where the player is clearly going to shoot and gets something similar to a shot going but in reality there is no shot and it doesn't show up in the box score.

                    These kinds of "no-shot" shooting fouls should exist in video games too.

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                    • Blue_Monkey
                      MVP
                      • Oct 2002
                      • 1107

                      #70
                      Re: Can\'t believe it but the FG att. and rebound stat bug is a gamekiller

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                      bamalam said:
                      i didn't think a missed shot when the shooter is fouled, is counted as a fga. otherwise, fg % would be meaningless. where did you check this?

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                      laker8la said:
                      I hate to be argumentative, but I am afraid the information you got is incorrect. If you are fouled on the shot, unless the basket goes in, you are not credited with a shot attempt. I am a statistician and know this is a fact. If the shot goes in, then yes you get credited with a shot attempt and a shot make.

                      <hr /></blockquote><font class="post">

                      I checked this thing myself. I watched three games and marked every shot. Missed shooting fouls too. The results I got were almost exactly the same that were marked in the official box scores.

                      laker8la, this is strange. You seem to know what you're talking about but had I not counted the missed shooting foul shots, every game would've totaled way too few shot attempts according to the official stats.

                      Try doing what I did and see what you get, guys. To me it seems like proper shots that are missed are counted as FG attempts. But in real NBA games there are usually several shooting fouls where there is no proper shot. "Shots" where the player is clearly going to shoot and gets something similar to a shot going but in reality there is no shot and it doesn't show up in the box score.

                      These kinds of "no-shot" shooting fouls should exist in video games too.

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                      • MartinDihigo
                        MVP
                        • Mar 2004
                        • 1000

                        #71
                        Re: Can\'t believe it but the FG att. and rebound stat bug is a gamekil

                        In nba basketball , any time a player is fouled in the act of shooting it is a shooting foul.
                        If the ball goes in the basket , it counts as a FG attempt and a FG made. Any other shooting foul does not count as a FG attempt. It doesn't matter if ball is shot in a beautiful arc and spins around the rim and off or if the ball flys two inches and the shooters hands go flailing in the air. Any shooting foul that does not go in the basket is not counted as a FG attempt.

                        Otherwise Shaq would not have a .580 FG% (he gets fouled around 3or4 times /game where the shot doesn't go in)(10.7 freethrow attempts per game)

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                        • MartinDihigo
                          MVP
                          • Mar 2004
                          • 1000

                          #72
                          Re: Can\'t believe it but the FG att. and rebound stat bug is a gamekil

                          In nba basketball , any time a player is fouled in the act of shooting it is a shooting foul.
                          If the ball goes in the basket , it counts as a FG attempt and a FG made. Any other shooting foul does not count as a FG attempt. It doesn't matter if ball is shot in a beautiful arc and spins around the rim and off or if the ball flys two inches and the shooters hands go flailing in the air. Any shooting foul that does not go in the basket is not counted as a FG attempt.

                          Otherwise Shaq would not have a .580 FG% (he gets fouled around 3or4 times /game where the shot doesn't go in)(10.7 freethrow attempts per game)

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                          • MartinDihigo
                            MVP
                            • Mar 2004
                            • 1000

                            #73
                            Re: Can\'t believe it but the FG att. and rebound stat bug is a gamekil

                            In nba basketball , any time a player is fouled in the act of shooting it is a shooting foul.
                            If the ball goes in the basket , it counts as a FG attempt and a FG made. Any other shooting foul does not count as a FG attempt. It doesn't matter if ball is shot in a beautiful arc and spins around the rim and off or if the ball flys two inches and the shooters hands go flailing in the air. Any shooting foul that does not go in the basket is not counted as a FG attempt.

                            Otherwise Shaq would not have a .580 FG% (he gets fouled around 3or4 times /game where the shot doesn't go in)(10.7 freethrow attempts per game)

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                            • Blue_Monkey
                              MVP
                              • Oct 2002
                              • 1107

                              #74
                              Re: Can\'t believe it but the FG att. and rebound stat bug is a gamekil

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                              MartinDihigo said:
                              In nba basketball , any time a player is fouled in the act of shooting it is a shooting foul.
                              If the ball goes in the basket , it counts as a FG attempt and a FG made. Any other shooting foul does not count as a FG attempt. It doesn't matter if ball is shot in a beautiful arc and spins around the rim and off or if the ball flys two inches and the shooters hands go flailing in the air. Any shooting foul that does not go in the basket is not counted as a FG attempt.

                              Otherwise Shaq would not have a .580 FG% (he gets fouled around 3or4 times /game where the shot doesn't go in)(10.7 freethrow attempts per game)

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                              How do you know this? I just wanna make sure. You know an NBA rules site where this is explained?

                              Cause when I counted FG attempts in real games and counted missed shooting fouls too the resulting FG attempts were close to the official ones. Had I not counted them there wouldv'e been a lot less attempts than what shows up in the official box scores.

                              I really want to know how this thing goes.

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                              • Blue_Monkey
                                MVP
                                • Oct 2002
                                • 1107

                                #75
                                Re: Can\'t believe it but the FG att. and rebound stat bug is a gamekil

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                                MartinDihigo said:
                                In nba basketball , any time a player is fouled in the act of shooting it is a shooting foul.
                                If the ball goes in the basket , it counts as a FG attempt and a FG made. Any other shooting foul does not count as a FG attempt. It doesn't matter if ball is shot in a beautiful arc and spins around the rim and off or if the ball flys two inches and the shooters hands go flailing in the air. Any shooting foul that does not go in the basket is not counted as a FG attempt.

                                Otherwise Shaq would not have a .580 FG% (he gets fouled around 3or4 times /game where the shot doesn't go in)(10.7 freethrow attempts per game)

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                                How do you know this? I just wanna make sure. You know an NBA rules site where this is explained?

                                Cause when I counted FG attempts in real games and counted missed shooting fouls too the resulting FG attempts were close to the official ones. Had I not counted them there wouldv'e been a lot less attempts than what shows up in the official box scores.

                                I really want to know how this thing goes.

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