***OS's Official College Hoops 2k8 Coach Mode Central***

[cad4life]

Re: ***OS's Official College Hoops 2k8 Coach Mode Central***

Yes I had drivers with the originals, but far too many just throw it up at the 3 pt line. The biggest problem with the default sliders to me was far too much 3 pointers. When I run a play to the inside or a screen step out they would stop the play at first resistance and look to the perimeter. I had wide open looks and the choice being Mid, short or 3 , they chose 3 every time.

Perhaps in older versions getting enough 3 point shots was a problem and they have over corrected. With Drive at 75 and close at 5 is counterproductive. You are making them drive but not finish. It really didnt look right to me at all the way they ran the plays. They just ran up got stopped , did a pumpfake and threw it outside and then a hail mary. I tried to make them "want" the basket more. They want to continue toward the basket or get the best shot. with your 3 point slider so high comparative to the others 3 is the first option to them.

Like I said just try those settings and see if you can follow what I am getting at. I am not saying they are the final word but wanted to illustrate how differently the AI acts while running plays with them reversed.

I haven't tried the sliders but I will today when I get off work. But I can visualize what you are saying and the logic you are using and it makes perfect since. I didn't experience that many 3 pointers but it does makes since that the first option would be to finish off the drive. I look forward to testing.

[cad4life]

Re: ***OS's Official College Hoops 2k8 Coach Mode Central***

Yes I had drivers with the originals, but far too many just throw it up at the 3 pt line. The biggest problem with the default sliders to me was far too much 3 pointers. When I run a play to the inside or a screen step out they would stop the play at first resistance and look to the perimeter. I had wide open looks and the choice being Mid, short or 3 , they chose 3 every time.

Perhaps in older versions getting enough 3 point shots was a problem and they have over corrected. With Drive at 75 and close at 5 is counterproductive. You are making them drive but not finish. It really didnt look right to me at all the way they ran the plays. They just ran up got stopped , did a pumpfake and threw it outside and then a hail mary. I tried to make them "want" the basket more. They want to continue toward the basket or get the best shot. with your 3 point slider so high comparative to the others 3 is the first option to them.

Like I said just try those settings and see if you can follow what I am getting at. I am not saying they are the final word but wanted to illustrate how differently the AI acts while running plays with them reversed.

OK after playing with your sliders I can see the difference you are talking about. I like the flow of the game except I have one problem. we just need to mesh it some how. with my sliders the pg was a threat to penetrate score or just plain take shots. I only played one game but something stuck out as a huge problem with your sliders. Neither team pg took a shot the whole game. the starting pg or the back up pg. I know I only played one game but I find it hard to believe we can play a 36 minute game and neither team pg took a shot. one of my favorite things with my set was the point guard play. you are right though after playing your settings I have to tone the multiple 3 pointers. let me know your thoughts. but one thing I love is the penetration of the players though especially with your sliders and the ball movement where it feels all five guys are involved. this game is awesome though. and I feel we are so close. let me know if your observations are different. remember some star players are pg's. before my pg was aveaging about 12 points a game. he is my second best player by rating. and my backup pg is good also. i just can't believe they didn't attempt a shot.

[grismosw]

Re: ***OS's Official College Hoops 2k8 Coach Mode Central***

Are these sliders essentially the same that you used last year?

[tomriddle]

Re: ***OS's Official College Hoops 2k8 Coach Mode Central***

Are these sliders essentially the same that you used last year?

OSU's are.. but they're for ps2

i jus dont think it translates to 360/ps3 totally different engines

BUT the game is so good u can use these sliders or the default or anything and you'll have a good playing game :P

but i still await sim slider gurus for 360/ps3 to come up with "realistidc" sliders.. jus give it time

[grismosw]

Re: ***OS's Official College Hoops 2k8 Coach Mode Central***

The reason I asked, I'm getting great results on 2k7 with coach mode. I was hoping I might be able to just plug them in on 2k8.

I'll try it today.

[doncoryell]

Re: ***OS's Official College Hoops 2k8 Coach Mode Central***

I tried the v2.6 USOpiper's settings (converted to fit new setting maxes of 100) in the first game on the PC Friars' schedule. That was the opening game of the tournament against Temple, the designated home team. The results were a 4-point loss to Temple but, there were 33-37 turnovers for EACH TEAM. The teams also had 30+ steals each. It looks like they didn't fix the steals problem that they had in the 2k7 version (ps2). I am now playing the game between Harvard and PC @ PC's home court. PC is up by 30+ and is threatening to put triple digits on the Crimson. Again, many, many steals but not to the extent of the PC/Temple game. I'll go back and use the settings that I had come up with and try those.

[BubbleFour]

Re: ***OS's Official College Hoops 2k8 Coach Mode Central***

I tried the v2.6 USOpiper's settings (converted to fit new setting maxes of 100) in the first game on the PC Friars' schedule. That was the opening game of the tournament against Temple, the designated home team. The results were a 4-point loss to Temple but, there were 33-37 turnovers for EACH TEAM. The teams also had 30+ steals each. It looks like they didn't fix the steals problem that they had in the 2k7 version (ps2). I am now playing the game between Harvard and PC @ PC's home court. PC is up by 30+ and is threatening to put triple digits on the Crimson. Again, many, many steals but not to the extent of the PC/Temple game. I'll go back and use the settings that I had come up with and try those.

What level are you playing at?

I'm still playing at All-Conf (based on NoleFan's findings last year) and have found the steals to be consistent with real-life stats. If you remember, the more difficult levels resulted in much greater number of steals in 2k7. At least on the 360, they did.

[tomriddle]

Re: ***OS's Official College Hoops 2k8 Coach Mode Central***

What level are you playing at?

I'm still playing at All-Conf (based on NoleFan's findings last year) and have found the steals to be consistent with real-life stats. If you remember, the more difficult levels resulted in much greater number of steals in 2k7. At least on the 360, they did.

no he's saying if you convert OSUPiper's settings to this year
the slider steals/etc setting is out of whack

it leads to steals like every other play -.-

so yea, i modified the sliders to my tastes too

That's why i'm hoping someone with a ps3/360 is a slider coach mode guru too shows up

cuz next-gen is different and 2k8 is different from 2k7 as well, engine wise/code/etc..

[OSUPiper]

Re: ***OS's Official College Hoops 2k8 Coach Mode Central***

I tried the v2.6 USOpiper's settings (converted to fit new setting maxes of 100) in the first game on the PC Friars' schedule. That was the opening game of the tournament against Temple, the designated home team. The results were a 4-point loss to Temple but, there were 33-37 turnovers for EACH TEAM. The teams also had 30+ steals each. It looks like they didn't fix the steals problem that they had in the 2k7 version (ps2). I am now playing the game between Harvard and PC @ PC's home court. PC is up by 30+ and is threatening to put triple digits on the Crimson. Again, many, many steals but not to the extent of the PC/Temple game. I'll go back and use the settings that I had come up with and try those.

don-

Are you playing on 360, PS3, or PS2.

[OSUPiper]

Re: ***OS's Official College Hoops 2k8 Coach Mode Central***

NOTE: My Dell XPS 1700 series uber-gaming monster bit the dust on its 15th month of use, meaning my ability to post is severely limited at the moment. Not a bad thing since I have finals coming up, but it is a bad thing since all my notes were on my laptop.

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Anyway, I started with my 2.61 sliders with 2k8 on PS2. I have also seen an average of 50+ turnovers per game. This happened no matter what I did with the appropriate sliders.

At the end of the last game, I dropped the game level to 'Walk-On' and (for whatever reason) did not see any more steals.

Apparently there are enough differencees in 2k8 that my former sliders will not work on PS2, so if they work on PS3 it is probably complete luck.

In fact, my next experiment is going to be CPUvCPU on 'Walk-On' with DEFAULT sliders (except fouls). I might go to All-Conference instead, since I have read many people have found steals reasonable at that level on next gen.

[elprez98]

Re: ***OS's Official College Hoops 2k8 Coach Mode Central***

I typically go for two star players in the first year of a career legacy. Unlike some I'm completely against trying to go get international guys to make your team better quick because it's easy. I had 3 scholorships to offer, and I went after two 2* players that I knew I had a very good chance at getting, and one 3* player with hopes of getting someone that could step up for me the upcoming year.

I heard that it is a lot tougher to get international players this year. Oh and btw, I think I'm going to make sliders again this year so...look out for them.

[cad4life]

Re: ***OS's Official College Hoops 2k8 Coach Mode Central***

NOTE: My Dell XPS 1700 series uber-gaming monster bit the dust on its 15th month of use, meaning my ability to post is severely limited at the moment. Not a bad thing since I have finals coming up, but it is a bad thing since all my notes were on my laptop.

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Anyway, I started with my 2.61 sliders with 2k8 on PS2. I have also seen an average of 50+ turnovers per game. This happened no matter what I did with the appropriate sliders.

At the end of the last game, I dropped the game level to 'Walk-On' and (for whatever reason) did not see any more steals.

Apparently there are enough differencees in 2k8 that my former sliders will not work on PS2, so if they work on PS3 it is probably complete luck.

In fact, my next experiment is going to be CPUvCPU on 'Walk-On' with DEFAULT sliders (except fouls). I might go to All-Conference instead, since I have read many people have found steals reasonable at that level on next gen.

On the 360 I have not had a problem at all on steals. I do believe they fixed the problem. I play on MOP and most games steals for both teams are about 5 to 6

[Redbird]

Re: ***OS's Official College Hoops 2k8 Coach Mode Central***

On the 360 I have not had a problem at all on steals. I do believe they fixed the problem. I play on MOP and most games steals for both teams are about 5 to 6

yep! no sliders needed so far

[doncoryell]

Re: ***OS's Official College Hoops 2k8 Coach Mode Central***

don-

Are you playing on 360, PS3, or PS2.

ps2

[doncoryell]

Re: ***OS's Official College Hoops 2k8 Coach Mode Central***

What level are you playing at?

I'm still playing at All-Conf (based on NoleFan's findings last year) and have found the steals to be consistent with real-life stats. If you remember, the more difficult levels resulted in much greater number of steals in 2k7. At least on the 360, they did.

the level for that version is mop.

What i might do is drop the steal success from 23 to 0 and drop the steal slider from 75 (v2.6 version was 16/20) down to about 50 and then maybe lowering it again.

i tried using the ones that i had came up with last year (i think that the level was either ac or aa) and there were no reach in fouls. i also only had 7 steals total in the pc/temple game. i am currently in the pc/arkansas game (the finals of the "palm tree" tournament) and there were more. i may have to increase the steals slider in order to influence more reaching fouls but i will do that after i catch up to the real life number of games in order to make comparisons.