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  • maskedmarvel
    Rookie
    • Oct 2002
    • 118

    #136
    Re: NCAA Basetball 09 Demo Available, Impressions Here

    Very disappointed. It's probably the animations, and the way they work with the game controls, but I find the demo to be alternately clunky and spastic. Nothing on the screen looks or feels like actual basketball, and the timing of everything is just odd and idiosyncratic -- just like the same video game basketball I've been playing since double dribble.

    Also pretty unimpressed by the off-ball movement and general AI, the players don't seem to do basic basketball cuts and practice elementary floor spacing depending on your passing, which is something all basketball games need. I'm sure playcalling helps with this, but still -- it just reminds you of how game-y everything feels.

    Like all hoops games, the collision system is kinda lacking. I think that's because basketball is a game of constant bumping and sliding and contact with motion, and that's hard to translate into mo-capped animations.

    Player face modeling and skin textures/lighting are very, very well done. Some of the best I've seen in a sports game. Body proportions are a little off, and the animations -- well, I think others have said enough on that. Even the nice, fluid animations feel out of place.

    On the whole, the graphics seem a little dark, the way night games in movies are always much too dark.

    The short shorts on the classic teams is also a nice touch, though it would have been nicer had they fixed the overly large jersey graphics to go with it.

    Overall, I guess I'm hoping for a game that captures the good parts of CH 2k8 but has a more organic, looser, better animated floor game, complete with better off-ball movement. NCAA 09 is not that game.

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    • Vince
      Bow for Bau
      • Aug 2002
      • 26017

      #137
      Re: NCAA Basetball 09 Demo Available, Impressions Here

      Originally posted by maskedmarvel

      Also pretty unimpressed by the off-ball movement and general AI, the players don't seem to do basic basketball cuts and practice elementary floor spacing depending on your passing, which is something all basketball games need. I'm sure playcalling helps with this, but still -- it just reminds you of how game-y everything feels.
      Wow, I disagree with this ten-fold!

      You don't need to call plays for guys to set picks. When you are pressed or trap, players come to you to help you out so you can dish out the rock. I find the off-ball movement is very good. Better than Live 09.
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      • ehh
        Hall Of Fame
        • Mar 2003
        • 28959

        #138
        Re: NCAA Basetball 09 Demo Available, Impressions Here

        Originally posted by Vince
        Wow, I disagree with this ten-fold!

        You don't need to call plays for guys to set picks. When you are pressed or trap, players come to you to help you out so you can dish out the rock. I find the off-ball movement is very good. Better than Live 09.
        c/s, that is one of the highlights of this game. I love it.
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        • htfdthewhale
          Rookie
          • Aug 2008
          • 58

          #139
          Things I liked:
          -Coach comments on game pace etc
          -Floor spacing was really nice

          Things I did not like:
          -Shorts look ridiculous. Yes, the shorts in todays game are big, but the plaryer models are so skinny and the shorts circumference are just way too big. They also look incredibly rigid. Combine the actual circumference of the shorts (in comparison to the chicken legs everyone has) with the rigid look, and it just looks ridiculous. This is pretty nitpicky and I can definitely get over this.
          -Player models
          -Contested shots going in EVERY G-D-effing time
          -Nessler's "Up aaaaaan IN!" 12 times in 8 minutes.

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          • KG
            Welcome Back
            • Sep 2005
            • 17583

            #140
            Re: NCAA Basetball 09 Demo Available, Impressions Here

            Originally posted by Behindshadows
            Go away!

            Everything you posted is bull....

            Players models and detail are great and graphics are way better than College Hoops. The gameplay is smooth and fast paste no where near sluggish!
            The player faces are incredible. The models are waaaay too thin. It looks like they are swimming in their jerseys.

            Courts look amazing though.
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            • IHateDuke32
              Pro
              • Nov 2006
              • 576

              #141
              Re: NCAA Basetball 09 Demo Available, Impressions Here

              Got a chance to play the demo more, and the more I play it the more impressed I am. The atmosphere is truly great in this game, although the commentary gets repetitive and pretty annoying. And as somebody mentioned before, its pretty weird how players are shown shooting with both hands. I just played a game using UNC at Michigan State, and in the preview before the game they showed Jimmy Black shooting left handed, when he is right handed (he shoots right handed in the actual gameplay). A pretty small glitch, but one that shouldn't be in the game none-the-less.

              I would recommend, if possible, that EA either gets rid of the commentary period and starts from scratch or gets Nessler and Vitale back in the studio and comes up with a lot more material.

              Other than those two gripes, I am loving this game

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              • Pared
                Legen - WAIT FOR IT
                • Feb 2003
                • 39337

                #142
                Re: NCAA Basetball 09 Demo Available, Impressions Here

                Originally posted by Behindshadows
                ... and I never trade games...
                lol You never do a lot of things.

                Hopefully the player models get a complete revamp next year. They look completely out of place in the game. The game would look more authentic with different player models.

                Seems a bit better than Live... I can't really make a good assessment from the demo. I would need to play the full game. The demo just felt a little bare to me and I don't think it's an accurate depiction of the game.

                Oh yes... the commentary is much better in Live.
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                • Tomba
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                  • Sep 2006
                  • 8908

                  #143
                  Re: NCAA Basetball 09 Demo Available, Impressions Here

                  Originally posted by Pared
                  lol You never do a lot of things.

                  Hopefully the player models get a complete revamp next year. They look completely out of place in the game. The game would look more authentic with different player models.

                  Seems a bit better than Live... I can't really make a good assessment from the demo. I would need to play the full game. The demo just felt a little bare to me and I don't think it's an accurate depiction of the game.

                  Oh yes... the commentary is much better in Live.
                  Yeah that is my biggest gripe. i know it's all about 'gameplay and all that but i can't help saying that the player art is completely out of place top the more realistic courts etc
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                  • ehh
                    Hall Of Fame
                    • Mar 2003
                    • 28959

                    #144
                    Re: NCAA Basetball 09 Demo Available, Impressions Here

                    The more I play the demo, the more impressed I am. I can actually have a real inside-out game for once, I can penetrate and pitch for wide open three's, I can crisply run plays for good looks. The animations and player models aren't the greatest but I'm sucha gameplay nut I can look past that in a heartbeat. This game obviously won't be for everyone but I'm pretty sure I'm going to enjoy the hell out of it for the next five months, baring some huge glitch in the retail version.
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                    • fishepa
                      I'm Ron F'n Swanson!
                      • Feb 2003
                      • 18989

                      #145
                      Re: NCAA Basetball 09 Demo Available, Impressions Here

                      This game is fun as hell, looking forward to it.

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                      • spit_bubble
                        MVP
                        • Nov 2004
                        • 3292

                        #146
                        Re: NCAA Basetball 09 Demo Available, Impressions Here

                        Man, reading some of the impressions here makes me wonder if I even played the same demo.

                        The game's animations are severely lacking. It looks to be about 30-40% complete, resulting in some very awkward looking plays just about every time down the court. No game it seems will ever look totally complete, because the sheer number of animations required... But man, that was just about the worst I've seen in a sports game in recent memory.

                        If you combine that with the freakish looking player models... Yikes!

                        The PS3 and 360 should not have to be subjected to this.

                        Seems like most people interested in this game are just more interested in getting a new game.

                        And the fatty consumer rides on, much to the chagrin of the horse he rides.
                        All ties severed...

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                        • Scoop 24
                          W* B*ck!!
                          • Aug 2002
                          • 3845

                          #147
                          Re: NCAA Basetball 09 Demo Available, Impressions Here

                          Originally posted by fishepa
                          This game is fun as hell, looking forward to it.
                          lol i agree
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                          • Hey_Rebby
                            Rookie
                            • Jan 2004
                            • 348

                            #148
                            Re: NCAA Basetball 09 Demo Available, Impressions Here

                            Originally posted by tulsa1
                            Its great to see old school teams really look like old school teams and I love the fact that we will be able to use them online. 2K missed the boat on this.
                            I still agree with this statement. It would have been nice to see some 70s 'fros on the '79 MSU team. I am hoping the classic rosters are better on the retail version. Did they bother to even look at '79 roster for MSU? No Gregory Kelsor? Looks like they said let's just make Magic Johnson and who cares about the rest of the team.

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                            • countryboy
                              Growing pains
                              • Sep 2003
                              • 52692

                              #149
                              Re: NCAA Basetball 09 Demo Available, Impressions Here

                              Originally posted by koshi
                              Man, reading some of the impressions here makes me wonder if I even played the same demo.

                              thats funny, I was thinking the exact same thing.
                              I can't shave with my eyes closed, meaning each day I have to look at myself in the mirror and respect who I see.

                              I miss the old days of Operation Sports :(


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                              • countryboy
                                Growing pains
                                • Sep 2003
                                • 52692

                                #150
                                Re: NCAA Basetball 09 Demo Available, Impressions Here

                                Originally posted by fishepa
                                This game is fun as hell, looking forward to it.
                                agreed. Although, I'll have to edit the appearances of some UofL players.
                                I can't shave with my eyes closed, meaning each day I have to look at myself in the mirror and respect who I see.

                                I miss the old days of Operation Sports :(


                                Louisville Cardinals/St.Louis Cardinals

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