Nets finally make offer to Portland for SAR

[DueceDiggla]

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You can't have Reggie.

It'll be tough to resign Reggie. Sonics resigned Allen, will resign Vlad and they already have Collison and Fortson at the PF spot. It would be stupid for them to resign Evans.

[keRplunK]

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It'll be tough to resign Reggie. Sonics resigned Allen, will resign Vlad and they already have Collison and Fortson at the PF spot. It would be stupid for them to resign Evans.

Collison was playing center a ton last year, Fortson is targeted by the refs because of his reputation.

So basically it's Evans 30 minutes Fortson 18 minutes.

Collison 25+ and whoever else the Sonics decide to sign.

They have plenty of money if they don't re-sign Antonio Daniels.

Not to mention according to a few stats he's the best rebounder since Dennis Rodman...just slightly behind the worm.

So, in other words...it'd be stupid for them NOT to resign Evans.

Depending on the contract of course.....but I don't see him getting 30 million over 5 years.

[bigeastbumrush]

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Deuce, wouldn't you want Swift instead of SAR.

Swift is more like Kenyon Martin and he was a beast playing with Kidd. I think those 2 would have a ton of the same chemistry.

Hate to harp on it but SAR just doesn't do it for me. Despite kerplunk's praise of him, this dude lacks heart and pairing him up with Vince Carter, well, you know..........

[dieselboy]

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Collison was playing center a ton last year, Fortson is targeted by the refs because of his reputation.

So basically it's Evans 30 minutes Fortson 18 minutes.

Collison 25+ and whoever else the Sonics decide to sign.

They have plenty of money if they don't re-sign Antonio Daniels.

Not to mention according to a few stats he's the best rebounder since Dennis Rodman...just slightly behind the worm.

So, in other words...it'd be stupid for them NOT to resign Evans.

Depending on the contract of course.....but I don't see him getting 30 million over 5 years.

I'm pretty sure he will be back. Unless for some reason we bring back Daniels, which I highly doubt.

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Hate to harp on it but SAR just doesn't do it for me. Despite kerplunk's praise of him, this dude lacks heart and pairing him up with Vince Carter, well, you know..........

uh oh (ducks)

[dieselboy]

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Hate to harp on it but SAR just doesn't do it for me. Despite kerplunk's praise of him, this dude lacks heart and pairing him up with Vince Carter, well, you know..........

Its hard to have great heart, and bust your *** every game when you are losing majority of the time.

I would like to see what SAR is capable of doing when playing for a winner; I think he might suprise some people.

[DueceDiggla]

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Deuce, wouldn't you want Swift instead of SAR.

Swift is more like Kenyon Martin and he was a beast playing with Kidd. I think those 2 would have a ton of the same chemistry.

Hate to harp on it but SAR just doesn't do it for me. Despite kerplunk's praise of him, this dude lacks heart and pairing him up with Vince Carter, well, you know..........

Every scouting report I've read on Swift says that he is a freak athlete with decent defense, but he has no motivation and often times doesn't give it his all. Yeah he can probably turn out to be alot like Kenyon, but Kenyon without the motivation and determination which is what made Kenyon the player he was. And I can't shake the fact that Swiift would get eaten up against teams with big men like Detroit, SA, Phoenix etc........


SAR isn't anything impressive on defense either, but he has been a consistant offensive threat year in and year out so at least I would know I'm getting something from him each night. His numbers wouldn't be as good on the Nets, but that would have to do with the rest of the offensive talent around him.

The VC remark makes no sense to me because he did more then enough this past season to prove his worth for us. Granted, there is a big possibility he may get hurt on a dumb play, or he may start playing mediocore once he feels like he won the fans over, but I doubt that will happen.



I'm more surprised that so many of you guys think signing SAR is a waste. He is a 20/8 guy throughout his career, he's one of the only Blazers in recent years not to get into any off court trouble, and he doesn't claim to be the man like you guys act like he does. He does the job asked.


Now, compare what he is being offered to what other guys around the league are getting. Jerome James (total waste) getting the MLE, Kenyon getting the Max after they traded away 3 first round picks for him, Hughes getting a 5 yrs/70 mil after one good seaon, Simmons getting around 10 mil a year after one good season, etc....... The list goes on and on, yet I don't hear anything negative about these signings.

I think its a fair trade to give Portland the TE and the Nets first round pick for SAR, and if they are somehow able to get him without giving up a first, then its a flat out steal.

[Vince]

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SAR is a much more logical choice. He's flat out the better player. Swift has never lived up to his potential. Although he'd be a decent fit with New Jersey(though it seems like they don't run as much as they used to). I think Marshall owuld've been the best fit for NJ, but I think SAR is a good pickup as well and we'll finnally see him on a team with competent players that can win.

[keRplunK]

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Hate to harp on it but SAR just doesn't do it for me. Despite kerplunk's praise of him, this dude lacks heart and pairing him up with Vince Carter, well, you know..........

I'm actually not really a fan of SAR, but it's stupid to label him like so many people have.

He is a quality player, there's no way to debate that. How good is he? I'm not really sure...but he's certainly not a loser or lazy or whatever he's been made out to be.

Maybe we'll find out.

SAR, Jefferson, Carter and Kidd.

That's a solid core in the East.

[Shockgeez04]

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im a big grizzlies fan, ive seen a ton of their games over the past 3 years and ill tell u straight up, swift is overrated, espn has brainwashed a lot of people into thinking hes a legit big man cuz of his highlight reel plays, the scouting report doesn't lie, hes a better than average shot blocker, hes not good on the glass, and struggles to get his own shots, his post game is limited as is his ability to take people off the dribble, and he doesn't have a reliable mid range shot

ill give him credit for holding us down for awhile last season but i wouldn't invest in him as your starting PF or C, a good energy guy off the bench is about what u can expect, not a consistent performer, id still take Rahim over him at this point, but thats just me

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update:

With less than two weeks left to use his nearly $5 million trade exception before it expires on July 29, Nets president Rod Thorn would like to strike a sign-and-trade with Portland for Shareef Abdur-Rahim this week or else move on to Stromile Swift.

The Blazers want one of the Nets' two first-round draft picks to go with the trade exception and Thorn is unwilling to part with any. Abdur-Rahim - who has drawn interest from the Kings, Spurs, Heat, Wizards, Clippers and Magic - wants a sign-and-trade because it would give him an extra year and $10 million more than he could get by accepting the roughly $5 million mid-level exception from a team.

"Portland knows what (it takes) to get a deal done. New Jersey knows," Abdur-Rahim's agent Aaron Goodwin said. "The mid-level is what we will take as a last resort."

[fowess]

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im a big grizzlies fan, ive seen a ton of their games over the past 3 years and ill tell u straight up, swift is overrated, espn has brainwashed a lot of people into thinking hes a legit big man cuz of his highlight reel plays, the scouting report doesn't lie, hes a better than average shot blocker, hes not good on the glass, and struggles to get his own shots, his post game is limited as is his ability to take people off the dribble, and he doesn't have a reliable mid range shot

ill give him credit for holding us down for awhile last season but i wouldn't invest in him as your starting PF or C, a good energy guy off the bench is about what u can expect, not a consistent performer, id still take Rahim over him at this point, but thats just me

Well, if he ends up in NJ, Jason Kidd does make life a lot easier. All they would need him to do is catch a few lobs, get a few offensive and defensive boards, and block a few shots. He may not be a great rebounder, but i'm sure he's better than whoever they have starting at the 4 (Uncle Cliffy?)

[Kashanova]

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I think Swift fits the nets system better I can't really see SAR as a run and jump athlete

[Playmakers]

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I think Swift fits the nets system better I can't really see SAR as a run and jump athlete

That's because the Rockets need him

SAR can ball and he's a legitimate 18/8 guy if he get's on a winner and with Kidd, VC and RJ I think that would be a good pickup for Jersey.

I'd much rather he go there than to Houston because I don't want T-Mac getting anymore help.