Joe Johnson a Hawk

[Pointguard]

Re: Joe Johnson a Hawk

Johnson is good... but... man!
Is it any wonder that the Hawks have sucked for years now, and will continue to do so for many more.

There does get to be a point where you look past the stupidity of their roster moves over the years, and just plain feel sorry for their fans.
My sympathy is with them in this deal... as it's now going to be a much longer time before the Hawks become a potential playoff team again.
Then again, they can always resort to

And yet if they dont trade for JJ, the have the exact same team minus Joe Johnson and are even worse.

PG:someone good
SG:Joe Johnson
SF:Marvin Williams
PF:Al Harrington/josh smith depending on who will stay
C:Collier

Its more like...

G- Joe Johnson l Tyronne Lue
G- Josh Childress l Salim Stoudemire
F- Josh Smith l Marvin Williams
F- Al Harrington l Esteban Batista
C- Zaza Pachulia l JasoN Collier

[Magus Relmyn]

Re: Joe Johnson a Hawk

And yet if they dont trade for JJ, the have the exact same team minus Joe Johnson and are even worse.



Its more like...

G- Joe Johnson l Tyronne Lue
G- Josh Childress l Salim Stoudemire
F- Josh Smith l Marvin Williams
F- Al Harrington l Esteban Batista
C- Zaza Pachulia l JasoN Collier

I'm pretty sure Marvin Williams is gonna start for now...

[Vince]

Re: Joe Johnson a Hawk

What a horrific trade.

Diaw tonight 14/13/11

Someone mentioned this and I thought the same thing...Why did the Hawks even need to do a Sign and Trade. Wasn't Phoenix saying they wouldn't match the deal?

[WTF]

Re: Joe Johnson a Hawk

:y4: Yep... but they wanted to give the Suns "something" for him. And boy, didn't that work out wonderful for the hawks

[SikWitIt]

Re: Joe Johnson a Hawk

What a horrific trade.

Diaw tonight 14/13/11

Someone mentioned this and I thought the same thing...Why did the Hawks even need to do a Sign and Trade. Wasn't Phoenix saying they wouldn't match the deal?

You act like Boris Diaw is a mvp candidate. Relax man any wing player in the Suns system with Nash at PG will thrive. I'm not knocking him, but you can't say its a horrific trade. Joe Johnson a 6'7 1-3 position. That's nice, he had a hardtime playing the point with his turnovers. But the man can do just about anything in the court and help guide this young team.

[nkhera1]

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You act like Boris Diaw is a mvp candidate. Relax man any wing player in the Suns system with Nash at PG will thrive. I'm not knocking him, but you can't say its a horrific trade. Joe Johnson a 6'7 1-3 position. That's nice, he had a hardtime playing the point with his turnovers. But the man can do just about anything in the court and help guide this young team.

Still not a bad deal for a player who was going to leave the team for nothing. Diaw is averaging better numbers in certain categories than Johnson was when he was here and I would think that has more bang for the buck than Joe Johnson.

[TheMatrix31]

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I'll go ahead and eat some crow for knocking this deal....

Thank GOD Phoenix did this and didnt resign that POS selfish punk Joe Johnson.

[Vince]

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You act like Boris Diaw is a mvp candidate. Relax man any wing player in the Suns system with Nash at PG will thrive. I'm not knocking him, but you can't say its a horrific trade. Joe Johnson a 6'7 1-3 position. That's nice, he had a hardtime playing the point with his turnovers. But the man can do just about anything in the court and help guide this young team.

Didn't PHX get 2 1st also?

[SikWitIt]

Re: Joe Johnson a Hawk

^ If thats true then damn, atlanta some stupid people. They coulda drafted ronnie brewer this year whos pretty much in the mold of Joe Johnson.

[delanceyj]

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It was said that they would match anything for JJ.. probably a lie, but that's Billy Knights decision.. Boris showed absolutely nothing here in Atlanta, it is good to see that he is blossoming in Phe. Joe has been putting up the numbers that is expected of him, not a bad move for either team as the picks are lottery protected, and as a Hawks fan, I really don't want anymore young players anyway. If the Hawks would just fire Mike Woodson, I think we will be in good shape.. (Oh yeah, and get us a friggin PG)

[Pointguard]

Re: Joe Johnson a Hawk

What a horrific trade.

Diaw tonight 14/13/11

Someone mentioned this and I thought the same thing...Why did the Hawks even need to do a Sign and Trade. Wasn't Phoenix saying they wouldn't match the deal?

Phoneix was saying they WOULD match any deal to JJ to scare the Hawks from out right matching JJ and then putting the Suns in a tough position to let JJ go for nothing or sign someone to a MAX deal that didnt want to be there in Phoniex.

Thank GOD Phoenix did this and didnt resign that POS selfish punk Joe Johnson.

Why is he selfish?

Because he was a 24 year old kid that wanted to become the best possible player he could be (And he is currently proving he could be a big time player in this league) and was smart enough to see that he wasn't going to develop in Phoniex and in that system?

He was the 4th best player in the PHX system behind Nash, Amare and the Matrix and with all locked in long term, things were gonna be like that for the reaminder of his contract assuming he signed with PHX.

Do you really expect him to be happy with that? Would you be happy with that?

I just don't understand this thinking.

I dont blame JJ one bit for making that decision and when Atlanta actually gets Joe Johnson some help, his fame will grow. The guy is putting up 20-6-4 this season on very good shooting numbers as the lone threat on the team.



As far as the trade, its so muc bigger than comparing JJ and Diaw's stats and saying who got the better deal. Atlanta will seek the benefits in the next few years from that trade.

[delanceyj]

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BTW, let's note Joe Johnson's triple double last night..

[dieselboy]

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Diaw is also a year younger..

[RockinDaMike]

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yeah i didn't think joe was selfish, he did what he thought was the best for his career, and he is confident that he couldl be a star. I say this was a successful trade for both parties. Thats how trades are suppose to be, right?

[Flyboy]

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Bingo, RockinMike. I just think that IF Atlanta took CP3 instead... the JJ trade would be looking A LOT nicer.