Your MVP candidates and why...

[Sarah]

Re: Your MVP candidates and why...

WHOA WHOA WHOA!!!! Stop it right there duncan stats are no where near k.g's first of all k.g is a way better free throw shooter then duncan while duncan shoots under 70 k.g shots 81 percent, k.g is also a better rebounder then duncan while weighing almost 40 pounds less, not only is k.g a better rebounder he's also a better passer and gets others involved more then TD does, k.g also steals more then TD and shoots a better percentage of field goals now all this talk about k.g having to bring out the best in these players he's already shown he has both players having career years while in min

Garnett: Career / Duncan: Career

49% of career FG% ---------- 50.7%
29.9% in 3 pt line--------------19.4%
76.8% in FT -------------------- 69.2%
11.1 rebounds per game ---------12.2 rebounds per game
20.2 points per game--------------22.5 points per game

Assist: 4.6-------------------------3.1
Turnover: 2.6-----------------------3.0
Steal: 1.4---------------------------0.8
Blocks: 1.7---------------------------2.5

It seems like the difference in stats between Duncan and Garnett is not really very far from each other opposite to what you claim that they are not even close. I got all those listing from Yahoo.com under players. Though Garnett played more games (775 games) compared to Duncan's (586 games). I don't know if it matters.

[Kashanova]

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last three years

Garnett: Career / Duncan: Career

50% of FG% ---------- 50%
25.6% in 3 pt line--------------25.3%
78% in FT -------------------- 65%
13 rebounds per game ---------12 rebounds per game
23 points per game--------------21 points per game

Assist: 5-------------------------3
Turnover: 2-----------------------2
Steal: 1---------------------------0.7
Blocks: 1---------------------------2

players get better over careers so i do recent years 3 is enough and that shows k.g is better

[Sarah]

Re: Your MVP candidates and why...

last three years

Garnett: Career / Duncan: Career

50% of FG% ---------- 50%
25.6% in 3 pt line--------------25.3%
78% in FT -------------------- 65%
13 rebounds per game ---------12 rebounds per game
23 points per game--------------21 points per game

Assist: 5-------------------------3
Turnover: 2-----------------------2
Steal: 1---------------------------0.7
Blocks: 1---------------------------2

players get better over careers so i do recent years 3 is enough and that shows k.g is better

Yeah, I noticed. Duncan's skills declined and win 2 championships in 3 years and Garnett's skills got better and missed the playoffs in the 3rd year. I know it doesn't make sense but, whatever makes you happy makes me happy.

When Duncan won his third NBA Finals MVP in seven years, Duncan joined Michael Jordan (six), Shaquille O'Neal (three) and Magic Johnson (three) as the only ones to have accomplished the trifecta.

[keRplunK]

Re: Your MVP candidates and why...

last three years

Garnett: Career / Duncan: Career

50% of FG% ---------- 50%
25.6% in 3 pt line--------------25.3%
78% in FT -------------------- 65%
13 rebounds per game ---------12 rebounds per game
23 points per game--------------21 points per game

Assist: 5-------------------------3
Turnover: 2-----------------------2
Steal: 1---------------------------0.7
Blocks: 1---------------------------2

players get better over careers so i do recent years 3 is enough and that shows k.g is better

Ya, except Duncan is closer to a center and Garnett is closer to a small forward.

They play different styles, and I would easily take Duncan over Garnett, although Kevin is one of my favorite players and can do things Duncan could never dream of.

[Sarah]

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Ya, except Duncan is closer to a center and Garnett is closer to a small forward.

They play different styles, and I would easily take Duncan over Garnett, although Kevin is one of my favorite players and can do things Duncan could never dream of.

And Duncan also accomplised things Garnett can only watch in the sidelines.

[Kashanova]

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Oh god bringing up mvps again when manu or horry deserved the last mvp, if it wasn't for horry duncan stays with two rings and gets trashed for choking from game 1-6

[Sarah]

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Oh god bringing up mvps again when manu or horry deserved the last mvp, if it wasn't for horry duncan stays with two rings and gets trashed for choking from game 1-6

Let's check if Duncan choke in the finals.

Individual playoff stat comparison.

20.0 R. Hamilton Scoring T. Duncan 23.6
11.3 B. Wallace Rebounds T. Duncan 12.4
6.5 C. Billups Assists T. Parker 4.4
1.7 B. Wallace Steals M. Ginobili 1.2
2.4 B. Wallace Blocks T. Duncan 2.3

In the Finals:

Game 1: Duncan 24
Manu 26
Horry 7
Game 2: Duncan 18
Manu 27
Horry 12
Game 3: Duncan 14
Manu 7
Horry 6
Game 4: Duncan 16
Manu 12
Horry 5
Game 5: Duncan 26
Manu 15
Horry 21
Game 6: Duncan 21
Manu 21
Horry 8
Game 7: Duncan 25
Manu 23
Horry 15

Bottom Line: Duncan 20.57 PPG/ Finals
Manu 18.7 PPG/ Finals
Horry 10.5 PPG/ Finals



Just looking at the points production, Duncan deserve the MVP. Plus his average is just about the same as his season average, so that tells me that he is consistent.

And if it wasn't for the exceptional game of Hudson and Wally 2 or 3 seasons ago in MIN, they would have not went deep in the playoffs. And if it wasn't for Pippen, Jordan would have not won 6 titles. So what is your point about Duncan not winning the finals if Horry and Manu was not there? They won once without Horry and Manu was on the bench. It was Duncan, Kerr, Robinson, Rose and Mario Elie back then.

[JohnJohnson]

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Just because you can take someone off the team and without them, they wouldn't have won. That doesn't make them the MVP. That's one of the dumbest things I've seen.

[JohnJohnson]

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CBSsportsline released their PF rankings

http://www.sportsline.com/nba/story/8866386

They've got Duncan at 1, KG at 2.

[Perceptor]

Re: Your MVP candidates and why...

My MVP Candidates (Pre-Season) in no particular order:

Dwyane Wade - Shaq is an advantage, but the kid's getting better and better

Allen Iverson - has carried the Sixers Franchise since he came into the league and probably could have won more MVP's

Tim Duncan - still the premier player in the NBA even though Ginobilli could steal some of his thunder this season

Tracy McGrady - the Rockets will be a very good team this season and maybe McGrady will finally get his first MVP

LeBron James - simply awesome and will be even better with Hughes on the team