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  • Vince
    Bow for Bau
    • Aug 2002
    • 26017

    #16
    Re: Something scary to think about

    Originally posted by MagicBucsWsoxFan
    JJ Reddick = Kirk Hinrich ??
    No. Hinrich is actually athletic and is one of the better defenders at his position in the league. He's a great point guard who can handle the rock well.
    Last edited by Vince; 02-17-2006, 11:29 AM.
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    • billmatic
      Treble Complete
      • Nov 2004
      • 7365

      #17
      Re: Something scary to think about

      Originally posted by MagicBucsWsoxFan
      JJ Reddick = Kirk Hinrich ??
      edit: what Vince said. he beat me to it.

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      • ex carrabba fan
        I'll thank him for you
        • Oct 2004
        • 32744

        #18
        Re: Something scary to think about

        kirk is a PG. JJ is a bonafide 2 that has nowhere near the ball handling skills kirk does. i'm thinking of jj as a bigger steve kerr/maybe even a little reggie miller (a poorman's miller).

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        • TheMatrix31
          RF
          • Jul 2002
          • 52908

          #19
          Re: Something scary to think about

          Maybe he can fill the role of Eddie House. Chances are, with the season Eddie's having, that he's gonna go somewhere and demand more money....so we need to fill the pure offense shooter role somehow.

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          • fluent2332
            MVP
            • Aug 2005
            • 1735

            #20
            Re: Something scary to think about

            the thing about Reddick is, not only is he one of the best shooters ever (yes ever, Dick Vitale himself said he may have the purest stroke he has ever seen in basketball), but he shoots and makes contested shots. he maybe gets one or 2 open looks per game, but still shoots 50% from the field and averages over 30. making contested shots in the NBA is a huge thing and Reddick does it well. IF the Suns could manage to draft him he could easily score 15 PPG in that system (see Raja Bell, Quentin Richardson, etc)

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            • SPTO
              binging
              • Feb 2003
              • 68046

              #21
              Re: Something scary to think about

              I don't understand the Reddick hate, sure I don't watch much college hoops and he has his fair share of problems other then a long range shot. I believe any player that has the 3 Pt record and soon to be the highest scorer in ACC history has to have SOME kind of future in the NBA.

              Maybe he'll be a role player that you can count on down the stretch in games. A young Steve Kerr if you will.
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              • HMcCoy
                All Star
                • Jan 2003
                • 8212

                #22
                Re: Something scary to think about

                With current rules making it easier to operate on the perimiter, Reddick is going to surprise some people. He may get molested on the defensive end, but he can't be any worse than say...DAMON JONES.
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                • cima
                  Hall Of Fame
                  • Sep 2004
                  • 13478

                  #23
                  Re: Something scary to think about

                  Originally posted by BAMJ6
                  Not that i'm complaining because i'm a Suns fan, but how are they gonna get a mid first round pick.

                  I'd be damn giddy if the Suns get him
                  I believe Atlanta owes them 2 picks, one via Boston I think so they could get Boston's pick if it's not lottery protected I believe.

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                  • billmatic
                    Treble Complete
                    • Nov 2004
                    • 7365

                    #24
                    Re: Something scary to think about

                    Originally posted by SPTO
                    I don't understand the Reddick hate, sure I don't watch much college hoops and he has his fair share of problems other then a long range shot. I believe any player that has the 3 Pt record and soon to be the highest scorer in ACC history has to have SOME kind of future in the NBA.

                    Maybe he'll be a role player that you can count on down the stretch in games. A young Steve Kerr if you will.
                    Well before he broke / breaks those records, they were held by Curtis Staples and Dickie Hemric, so college records don't really mean much when it comes to NBA success.

                    I think the Steve Kerr and Damon Jones comparisons are a lot more dead on than some of the ridiculous ones that are being thrown around.

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                    • billmatic
                      Treble Complete
                      • Nov 2004
                      • 7365

                      #25
                      Re: Something scary to think about

                      Originally posted by fluent2332
                      the thing about Reddick is, not only is he one of the best shooters ever (yes ever, Dick Vitale himself said he may have the purest stroke he has ever seen in basketball), but he shoots and makes contested shots. he maybe gets one or 2 open looks per game, but still shoots 50% from the field and averages over 30. making contested shots in the NBA is a huge thing and Reddick does it well. IF the Suns could manage to draft him he could easily score 15 PPG in that system (see Raja Bell, Quentin Richardson, etc)
                      LOL @ using Dick Vitale to corroborate your point. Although I do agree that he is one of the best college shooters of all time.

                      See the 2nd half of the Memphis game when Carney was guarding him as a preview of what happens when JJ is defended by an NBA calibur athlete. Raja Bell and Quentin Richardson are also bigger and more athletic than Redick by a long shot, so just because they can put up 15PPG doesnt automatically mean JJ can. JJ relies on his team setting double and triple screens for him to get open, so he would have to go to a team that would do something similar, or a team like the Suns where Nash would manage to get him open shots.

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                      • Vince
                        Bow for Bau
                        • Aug 2002
                        • 26017

                        #26
                        Re: Something scary to think about

                        Originally posted by fluent2332
                        the thing about Reddick is, not only is he one of the best shooters ever (yes ever, Dick Vitale himself said he may have the purest stroke he has ever seen in basketball), but he shoots and makes contested shots. he maybe gets one or 2 open looks per game, but still shoots 50% from the field and averages over 30. making contested shots in the NBA is a huge thing and Reddick does it well. IF the Suns could manage to draft him he could easily score 15 PPG in that system (see Raja Bell, Quentin Richardson, etc)

                        Making contested shots vs 6'2 guards in the ACC is different than making them vs standard 6'6, 6'7 NBA guards. Like I said and others have also, he needs to be in a system were big men will screen for him a lot. The problem is, no team is going to drastically change their schemes to accomadate a player like Redick who is just a rookie coming into the league.
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                        • utexas
                          Greatness
                          • Jan 2003
                          • 4867

                          #27
                          Re: Something scary to think about

                          Originally posted by Vinceanity2k3
                          Making contested shots vs 6'2 guards in the ACC is different than making them vs standard 6'6, 6'7 NBA guards. Like I said and others have also, he needs to be in a system were big men will screen for him a lot. The problem is, no team is going to drastically change their schemes to accomadate a player like Redick who is just a rookie coming into the league.
                          Bingo!! DUke runs so many screens to free him that the nba won't do. His shot is contested only after he has squared up and had a good look. He doesn't create his own shot unless he is pulling up in transition, great college player, but he will be an nba 3 pt gunner journeyman.
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                          • RockinDaMike
                            All Star
                            • Feb 2003
                            • 9091

                            #28
                            Re: Something scary to think about

                            Originally posted by HMcCoy
                            At the time, the Cavs were a perfect fit for Tragic..err Trajon ( met him a few times...Cool guy, sucky ball player).

                            They had just picked up Shawn Kemp, and with Z coming off injuries they expected a lethal inside/outside offense and needed guys to perch on the outside and drill 3's so they got him and Wesley Person. They both sucked balls...

                            Anyway, I think Reddick has a quick enough release to be a pretty good NBA shooter..he's also got some moxie, which will help.

                            I know and played ball with Trajan, and he's a jerk! hahaha, but he was good but had the knee injury he could never get back from.


                            But as far as Reddick on the Suns would be a perfect fit, i would like to see him on the team
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                            • RockinDaMike
                              All Star
                              • Feb 2003
                              • 9091

                              #29
                              Re: Something scary to think about

                              Originally posted by utexas
                              Bingo!! DUke runs so many screens to free him that the nba won't do. His shot is contested only after he has squared up and had a good look. He doesn't create his own shot unless he is pulling up in transition, great college player, but he will be an nba 3 pt gunner journeyman.

                              yeah but JJ is the only threat on that team, if he's on a good NBA team with other options then someone will find him open without any screens. As long as he's high energy and always moving i don't see why he can't get open to drain shots. Pretty much model his game after RIP and he should be fine
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                              • Jasong7777
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                                • May 2005
                                • 6415

                                #30
                                Re: Something scary to think about

                                J.J. will never be an all-star, but I can't think of any NBA team that would not want him. His jump shot is DYNOMITE.
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