Stern: Commish or Tyrant?

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Re: Stern: Commish or Tyrant?

I'll wait half a season before I send out the firing squad on Stern. 2-3 games is too small of a sample size for me.

I was taught early on in school that palming wasn't allowed, yet, the pros were getting away with it. Now, it's being called, like it should have been.

Redd was called for palming or carrying last night. On opening night, Redd was called for hooking his other arm on a wrap a round. I think that is also good.

Yes, good that they called it, but who's fault is it that they let guys like AI come into the league plaming and carrying in the first place?

That's how this generation turned into a "imma cross u up" generation

[P2K]

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A Detroit columnist complaining about Wade and 'Bron getting calls? Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm. Hmmmmmmmmmmmm

[SPTO]

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I love how everyone is calling Stern a tyrant and all. Yes he's made some questionable decisions over the past couple years and what we're seeing is mainly a blow back against the negative stereotyped image the NBA has gotten in the last 8-10 years.

Remember this, David Stern kept the NBA alive and pushed for the media hyping of the stars of the 80s such as Bird, Magic, Jordan, etc etc. He took over a league that had a lower profile at the time then the NHL and look at where the NBA is today.

So yes, I think what we're seeing these days is a harsh push to curb the negativity that surrounds the league. Sometimes one has to use extreme measures. Now, some of the rules and restrictions I don't like but overall Stern has tried his damndest to change the league's image. In some ways maybe this might be his downfall but I won't fault him for trying to make a positive change.

[malek05]

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For starters

Get rid of the zone. Bring back hand checking. Get rid of the ticky tack fouls, and this new technical garbage

Bingo, especially the ticky tack fouls. Last night against the sonics smush parker pushed ray allen to get a pass, I'm talking full arm extension, tripped over his own two feet...and ray allen was called for the foul even though he was barely in the camera shot with smush. Tsk tsk tsk

[utexas]

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Stern is a tyrant who is too consumed with non-gameplay issues. Dress Code,owner colde of conduct, age limit, new ball, etc., none of those address on court issues such as over agressive referees. This is actually a good time for the NBA with the great playoffs last season and the core group of stars being young and marketable. Somtimes it appears that Stern has to "prove" that he is in charge.

[P2K]

Re: Stern: Commish or Tyrant?

Stern is a tyrant who is too consumed with non-gameplay issues. Dress Code,owner colde of conduct, age limit, new ball, etc., none of those address on court issues such as over agressive referees. This is actually a good time for the NBA with the great playoffs last season and the core group of stars being young and marketable. Somtimes it appears that Stern has to "prove" that he is in charge.

So making players put on a suit every once in a while and not letting them wear 17 arm bands makes dude a tyrant?



Someone get the holy water!

[crd829]

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I'll wait half a season before I send out the firing squad on Stern. 2-3 games is too small of a sample size for me.

I was taught early on in school that palming wasn't allowed, yet, the pros were getting away with it. Now, it's being called, like it should have been.

Redd was called for palming or carrying last night. On opening night, Redd was called for hooking his other arm on a wrap a round. I think that is also good.

agreed

[4BiddenKnight]

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That will screw the business of the NBA for many years to come. I think many of you guys are forgetting that the NBA is first and foremost a business.

The NHL is a business too, all leagues, EPL, MLB, NFL, CBA are businesses. Look at what happened to the NHL after that 1 year lockout, everyone's absolutely enjoying it (especially in Canada). Even Carolina and some of those teams are attracting fans to come watch their games live. It just looks to me like a drastic change is needed in order to fix the NBA.

[teebone]

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My biggest complaint is that he allowed the Pistons to dictate a style of basketball that would eventually lead to radically changing the rules and making statistical comparisons with greats of that era apples and oranges. But aside from that the changes that Stern has recently implemented has been good if not necessary. Im not a fan of the ball but its the people in the NBA who like to piss and moan that have made entirely too much out of the new ball. And Im kind of glad Stern is being firm as the commissioner. He knows its a business and have identified some of the reasons that those who watched in the Jordan era no longer do...and he is correct.

[ehh]

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For the most part I'm a big fan of Stern, but he's definitely done some questionable stuff.

It's better, IMO, that he's trying to make the league too tight than too loose.

[NINJAK2]

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Yes, good that they called it, but who's fault is it that they let guys like AI come into the league plaming and carrying in the first place?

That's how this generation turned into a "imma cross u up" generation

Actually MJ got away with a lot of hooking and traveling. The "get out of traveling for free" card didn't start with A.I.

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No it didn't, but the palming crossover trend got popular with him.

[PlayaHataSupreme]

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A differing opinion of Stern on ESPN's Page 2.

http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/page2...t&lid=tab1pos1

[utexas]

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So making players put on a suit every once in a while and not letting them wear 17 arm bands makes dude a tyrant?



Someone get the holy water!

So seeing an NBA player in a suit improves the game how? Who is he trying to appease?

[roadman]

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So seeing an NBA player in a suit improves the game how? Who is he trying to appease?

Does it improve the play on the court? No. Does it improve the image of the game or players. Yes.

It's all about marketing to the masses, young and old and everything in between.