***Official 2007 NBA Playoffs Discussion Thread***

[fowess]

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Time to derail the subject and I dunno if this has been linked but ...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UoAXg2pOG5s

[HMcCoy]

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How does Chicago overachieve? They have a solid team with a bunch of solid players, besides Lebron there isnt a single player in Cleveland that scares me, and if Lebron wants to float around the perimeter and launch jumpers all game then Im not worried about him either. If any team can be accused of playing above themselves then its Cleveland, having one solid player and a bunch of solid role players doesnt scare me at all.

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The knock on CLE all year has been lack of consistent energy and their propensity for playing down to their competition. You can't say that about the Bulls. I give Kudos to Skiles because he almost always has those guys playing at a high level of intensity and desire, and for whatever reason, Mike Brown cannot get that out of the LeBron and the Cavs.

Look at our losses this season and tell me we shouldn't be a 55-60 win team...

Either way, I hope the Pistons do forget were a rebound away from eliminating them last year...without any bench help, Larry Hughes' defense, or Sasha playing at this level.

[Psyblast]

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And the Pistons are playing better this year than they were last year...

Oh, by the way, the Cavs aren't there yet.

[TheMatrix31]

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So your point would be pretty valid if I wasn't asking a question, but I was.

[EWRMETS]

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The difference, IMO is that CHI overacheives, and the Cavs underacheive. Our record is stuffed with losses to very bad teams...

@ PSY...the only way we can beat you guys is star treatment, huh?

The Bulls have a more talented team than the Cavs. To be honest, the Cavs are not even a good team. I've watched the Nets/Cavs series as I am a Nets fan. The Cavs play good defense at times and they definitely are a good rebounding team, but other than that, they aren't anything special.

[Psyblast]

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I can't wait for Game 6 tomorrow night between San Antonio and Phoenix. I'm anxious to see the heart and resolve of this Suns team.

[Macar91]

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I was really proud of how the Bulls were able to make a series out of this. I just think to myself how it could have been completely different if the Bulls could have won that 3rd game.

Oh well, all us Bulls fans have got to hope for now is a good draft pick. Can't wait for Tuesday!

[jmood88]

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So your point would be pretty valid if I wasn't asking a question, but I was.

You capitalizing the word "inside" suggests that you weren't actually asking anything.

[The Chef]

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The knock on CLE all year has been lack of consistent energy and their propensity for playing down to their competition. You can't say that about the Bulls. I give Kudos to Skiles because he almost always has those guys playing at a high level of intensity and desire, and for whatever reason, Mike Brown cannot get that out of the LeBron and the Cavs.

Look at our losses this season and tell me we shouldn't be a 55-60 win team...

Either way, I hope the Pistons do forget were a rebound away from eliminating them last year...without any bench help, Larry Hughes' defense, or Sasha playing at this level.

55-60 win team? Im not even sure how you can say that with a straight face, I mean were talking a low end of 55-26 or 60-21 and thats ludicrous, even in this watered down Eastern Conference. Cleveland cant win on the road, as shown by their 20-21 regular season record on the road, in the playoffs they have gone 3-1 but in all honesty it was against a depleted Washington team and everyone who knows anything knew that Washington was done for once Arenas went down. I respect Cleveland, but they needed some shooters to surround Lebron with and didnt do it, Hughes is not the answer imo.

[HMcCoy]

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55-60 win team? Im not even sure how you can say that with a straight face, I mean were talking a low end of 55-26 or 60-21 and thats ludicrous, even in this watered down Eastern Conference. Cleveland cant win on the road, as shown by their 20-21 regular season record on the road, in the playoffs they have gone 3-1 but in all honesty it was against a depleted Washington team and everyone who knows anything knew that Washington was done for once Arenas went down. I respect Cleveland, but they needed some shooters to surround Lebron with and didnt do it, Hughes is not the answer imo.

Ludicrous?

You do know they won 50 games right?

Here are a few losses...tell me that it's "ludicrous" that they couldn't win 5 of these:

Bobcats...Twice
New York...Twice
Atlanta (at home)
Seattle
Portland
Boston
N.O.
Philly

We couldn't get 5 of those? Yeah, they could have dropped a couple more along the way also...but bottom line, they should not have lost to so many absolute bottom feeders. CHI's only really crappy losses were to the Wolves twice, Sacto, Cats, Grizz, and Knicks. They largely handled their business.

Also, CLE had the 9th best road record in the league, 2nd best in the East. "Cant win on the road" isn't entirely accurate.

Strong at home (only 5 teams had better home record) and .500 on the road is decent, considering we've usually been a terrible away team.

[Psyblast]

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And the Pistons lost to...

Milwaukee
Sacramento
New Orleans
Charlotte x2
Portland
Indiana x2
New York
Atlanta
Minnesota
*Philadelphia (starters rested)

So 12 of the Pistons 29 losses were to lottery teams. Damn, this team should've won 60 games easy.

The regular season doesn't mean anything anymore, and you shouldn't be trying to argue that the Cavs should've won 55-60 games. You should be thinking about Game 6 tomorrow, because Cleveland hasn't proven anything yet.

[HMcCoy]

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And the Pistons lost to...

Milwaukee
Sacramento
New Orleans
Charlotte x2
Portland
Indiana x2
New York
Atlanta
Minnesota
*Philadelphia (starters rested)

So 12 of the Pistons 29 losses were to lottery teams. Damn, this team should've won 60 games easy.

The regular season doesn't mean anything anymore, and you shouldn't be trying to argue that the Cavs should've won 55-60 games. You should be thinking about Game 6 tomorrow, because Cleveland hasn't proven anything yet.

You're absolutely right. Going from flirting with the win record, to barely edging CLE in the East was a definite step backwards. Looking at the CHI series, and based on your own posts...DET is prone to over-confidence as well. CHI fights harder than both of our squads, and does it on a more consistent basis. Bottom line the Cavs could have been better, and so could the Pistons.

It's cool though...I'm pretty sure we won't see LeBron with only 4 shot attempts midway thorugh the 3rd quarter again. Local speculation is that he's kicking back so his buddy Jigga can rake in a little more playoff revenue.

We'll see how good N.J. is if/when Bron decides to ball for 48 minutes.

[The Chef]

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You're absolutely right. Going from flirting with the win record, to barely edging CLE in the East was a definite step backwards. Looking at the CHI series, and based on your own posts...DET is prone to over-confidence as well. CHI fights harder than both of our squads, and does it on a more consistent basis. Bottom line the Cavs could have been better, and so could the Pistons.

It's cool though...I'm pretty sure we won't see LeBron with only 4 shot attempts midway thorugh the 3rd quarter again. Local speculation is that he's kicking back so his buddy Jigga can rake in a little more playoff revenue.

We'll see how good N.J. is if/when Bron decides to ball for 48 minutes.

Somehow I doubt that Lebron is holding back so Jay-Z could make some more money, and if he is hes a fool and its further proof that he is nowhere near being a cut throat superstar. I really hope Cleveland wins tomorrow night so they can close it out and get rested for Detroit that way there arent any excuses made when Cleveland loses. Like I said, Cleveland is a solid team, but I dont think they have a chance to beat Detroit, if we want to use the regular season as a measuring stick, like you wanted to so there could be speculation on how many wins Cleveland could have had, then keep in mind Detroit beat Cleveland 3 out of 4 games. That one win by Cleveland over Detroit required Lebron to go for 41, and win it in overtime, like I said, I dont think Cleveland is ready yet to take that next step.

EDIT- Cant forget that Detroit was 21-15 with Webber, which is good but pales when you consider they went 32-14 with him, its safe to say they are not only better then last year when they faced Cleveland but better then they were just at the beginning of this season.

[TheMatrix31]

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You capitalizing the word "inside" suggests that you weren't actually asking anything.

Actually, me capitalizing the word "inside" means that I was trying to separate the inside of the stadium from the surrounding outside air and environment of the city itself. This is such a waste of time.

Psy, hopefully we have half the heart we had last year. That will be good enough.

[Altimus]

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I was really proud of how the Bulls were able to make a series out of this. I just think to myself how it could have been completely different if the Bulls could have won that 3rd game.

Oh well, all us Bulls fans have got to hope for now is a good draft pick. Can't wait for Tuesday!

I wondered how tonight would have gone if we had any low scoring presence...

When Rasheed got that open look and faded away and hit the shot for a 10 point lead in the final minutes I was jealous.

Well, I'll be rooting for the Suns the rest of the way.