Sorry, Dirk, you're no MVP

**Quick6** · 05-01-2007, 10:39 PM

Re: Sorry, Dirk, you're no MVP

Originally posted by ZB9

there is an interesting double standard going on. 1st off, let me say an understatement that Nash is a great player obviously...but why does Nash get such a free pass in the playoffs? He's 5 years older than Dirk, as well as the 2 time MVP and Dirk has probably had a better career in the playoffs overall than Nash has. Yet, Nash has never really been criticized for any playoff underachieving while Dirk is blasted constantly.

here is a little factoid..Nash leads all active NBA players for most playoff appearances without a finals appearance. and he is the only multiple MVP winner to never make it to the finals. just wondering what the deal is with the double standard and why is Dirk held to a higher standard than a 2 time MVP that is 5 years older?

Dude, dude, dude. There are plenty of players who never got to the Finals till later in their career, yet noone was saying they were overrated because of it. How big is your butt? Cause with all the crap you pull out of it, I'd assume it's HUGE!

**ZB9** · 05-01-2007, 10:41 PM

Re: Sorry, Dirk, you're no MVP

Originally posted by Quick6

Dude, dude, dude. There are plenty of players who never got to the Finals till later in their career, yet noone was saying they were overrated because of it. How big is your butt? Cause with all the crap you pull out of it, I'd assume it's HUGE!

there havent been any MVPs that havent made it to the finals. However, there have been quite a few MVPs that have never won the finals.

if Nash doesnt get there this year or eventually, he will set a new precendant

**Quick6** · 05-01-2007, 10:43 PM

Re: Sorry, Dirk, you're no MVP

Originally posted by ZB9

there havent been any MVPs that havent made it to the finals. However, there have been quite a few MVPs that have never won the finals.

There have been players who were MVP's that didn't get there till after they had won MVP's. Look it up and quite trying to be cute.

**nkhera1** · 05-01-2007, 10:50 PM

Re: Sorry, Dirk, you're no MVP

As long as Nash has been on the Suns, you can't blame him for the teams playoff woes. If anything they overachieved last year by getting as far as they did. Look at who they had on that team last year and its amazing they even got to the WCF(Barbosa was no where near as good).

**ZB9** · 05-01-2007, 10:51 PM

Re: Sorry, Dirk, you're no MVP

Originally posted by nkhera1

As long as Nash has been on the Suns, you can't blame him for the teams playoff woes

lol of course not

but if they win, I imagine its all him though right?

im a Mavs fan. I watched him for 6 years in Dallas. I know how he plays in the playoffs. That hasnt changed much in Phoenix.

**Sarah** · 05-01-2007, 11:05 PM

Re: Sorry, Dirk, you're no MVP

Originally posted by ZB9

there is an interesting double standard going on. 1st off, let me say an understatement that Nash is a great player obviously...but why does Nash get such a free pass in the playoffs? He's 5 years older than Dirk, as well as the 2 time MVP and Dirk has probably had a better career in the playoffs overall than Nash has. Yet, Nash has never really been criticized for any playoff underachieving while Dirk is blasted constantly.

here is a little factoid..Nash leads all active NBA players for most playoff appearances without a finals appearance. and he is the only multiple MVP winner to never make it to the finals. just wondering what the deal is with the double standard and why is Dirk held to a higher standard than a 2 time MVP that is 5 years older?

I think one of the primary reasons why Dirk is always blasted is because a lot of people thinks he is overrated. Like for example, he is the leader of DAL yet he is acting like he is a bench player wanting to help any way he can. He is a big guy who doesn't have toughness in him to play against the best big dogs of the NBA like Duncan and Garnett can. Play physical on Dirk and his mojo will dissapear unlike other superstars in the league who can actually play even against physical defense like T-mac, Kobe, Duncan, Garnett and some more I am too tired to type.

**ZB9** · 05-01-2007, 11:11 PM

Re: Sorry, Dirk, you're no MVP

Originally posted by Sarah

I think one of the primary reasons why Dirk is always blasted is because a lot of people thinks he is overrated. Like for example, he is the leader of DAL yet he is acting like he is a bench player wanting to help any way he can. He is a big guy who doesn't have toughness in him to play against the best big dogs of the NBA like Duncan and Garnett can. Play physical on Dirk and his mojo will dissapear unlike other superstars in the league who can actually play even against physical defense like T-mac, Kobe, Duncan, Garnett and some more I am too tired to type.

lol hes overrated yet he led ALL players in both rebounds per game and double doubles in last year's playoffs.

go back and make some bacon and eggs!

**nkhera1** · 05-01-2007, 11:11 PM

Re: Sorry, Dirk, you're no MVP

Originally posted by ZB9

lol of course not

but if they win, I imagine its all him though right?

im a Mavs fan. I watched him for 6 years in Dallas. I know how he plays in the playoffs. That hasnt changed much in Phoenix.

How is it his fault? Agaisnt the Spurs we were missing our 3rd best player for most of the series and Spurs were the better team. Last year we were seriously undermanned and had no business making it as far as we did.

**ZB9** · 05-01-2007, 11:14 PM

Re: Sorry, Dirk, you're no MVP

Originally posted by nkhera1

How is it his fault? Agaisnt the Spurs we were missing our 3rd best player for most of the series and Spurs were the better team. Last year we were seriously undermanned and had no business making it as far as we did.

sure

**nkhera1** · 05-01-2007, 11:31 PM

Re: Sorry, Dirk, you're no MVP

Originally posted by ZB9

sure

Thanks for answering the question buddy.

**ZB9** · 05-01-2007, 11:50 PM

Re: Sorry, Dirk, you're no MVP

Originally posted by nkhera1

Thanks for answering the question buddy.

your welcome

**jmood88** · 05-02-2007, 12:34 AM

Re: Sorry, Dirk, you're no MVP

Originally posted by Snigitty James

Has he not deserved it? Not only has he changed the Phoenix Suns but he has changed the NBA. That's saying something. Not many guys have had the influence on the game of basketball that Steve Nash is having right now. He'll go down as one of the greatest ever.

How exactly has he changed the nba? He's a point guard who can pass and shoot, he's not doing anything that Magic didn't do, except he can't play all 5 positions.

**Sarah** · 05-02-2007, 12:53 AM

Re: Sorry, Dirk, you're no MVP

Originally posted by jmood88

How exactly has he changed the nba? He's a point guard who can pass and shoot, he's not doing anything that Magic didn't do, except he can't play all 5 positions.

Very true, Jerry West and Pistol Pit are the PGs who change the NBA. And also Magic for being the first PG who can play all 5 positions.

**ZB9** · 05-02-2007, 02:21 AM

Re: Sorry, Dirk, you're no MVP

game 5 postgame - "We got on Dirk's back and he carried us," said Devean George, who knows the feeling after winning titles with Shaquille O'Neal and Kobe Bryant on the Los Angeles Lakers. "That's who he is for us. We're going to ride with him. ... We'll build off this. We've been fighting all year. We'll do the same in the next game."

**Pointguard** · 05-02-2007, 02:44 AM

Re: Sorry, Dirk, you're no MVP

Originally posted by TheMatrix31

This thread is going to get UGLY.

^

Sorry, Dirk, you're no MVP

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