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  • Benniator
    Rookie
    • Jan 2006
    • 160

    #16
    Re: There is 3 seconds left and your team is down by 1

    Bird, easily. As has been said already, you take Jordan if you need 2. Bird'll get you 3 more often than Jordan. Hell, I'd take Reggie over Jordan if I needed 3.
    Last edited by Benniator; 10-27-2007, 12:37 PM.

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    • SkunkWurks6
      Banned
      • Jul 2007
      • 514

      #17
      Re: There is 3 seconds left and your team is down by 1

      Myself, seeing as the posting said "your team". If it's my team you better believe I'm taking the last shot.

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      • Streets
        Supreme
        • Aug 2004
        • 5787

        #18
        Re: There is 3 seconds left and your team is down by 1

        Originally posted by droc81yo
        As much as I hate to say it....Kobe. I hate the guy but I have seen him make some big shots. You can't stop his shot, he can get it off no matter what......just ask shawn marion in the 2006 playoffs.

        Kobe.what a bastard
        He misses alot of big ones too. It is just that you remember the makes more than the misses. I would love to see the clutch factor of these guy, if there is such a stat.

        Edit: according to this pretty big sample size, Kobe is not exactly Jordan, Bird, Reggie, or Bob

        An occasional feature on the 82games.com web site is the random stat -- today's edition looks at NBA player stats for game winning or game tying shots in the final seconds.


        According to 82 Games, he is only 7 for 32 in game winners from 03-04 regular season to the 05-06 regular season (two whole seasons)
        Last edited by Streets; 10-27-2007, 02:04 PM.

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        • ZB9
          Hall Of Fame
          • Nov 2004
          • 18387

          #19
          Re: There is 3 seconds left and your team is down by 1

          who is the ref at the time?

          if it's Salvatore, ill take D-Whistle i mean D Wade

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          • Altimus
            Chelsea, Assemble!
            • Nov 2004
            • 27283

            #20
            Re: There is 3 seconds left and your team is down by 1

            Michael Jordan... didn't even have to look at anyone else.

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            • Bizzy Da Kid
              I'm in here...
              • Feb 2007
              • 865

              #21
              Re: There is 3 seconds left and your team is down by 1

              Originally posted by Altimus Prime
              Michael Jordan... didn't even have to look at anyone else.

              Agreed...you have to be on hard drugs to pick anyone else.

              MJ's resume compared to those others listed....are you freakin serious?

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              • youvalss
                ******
                • Feb 2007
                • 16601

                #22
                Re: There is 3 seconds left and your team is down by 1

                Jordan...I'd even pick him if there was 1 second left with minus 3. Bird is my second pick...Kobe wouldn't be in my team anyway...
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                • Dice
                  Sitting by the door
                  • Jul 2002
                  • 6627

                  #23
                  Re: There is 3 seconds left and your team is down by 1

                  Michael "Jeffery" Jordan would have the ball in his hands if I were the coach in that situation.
                  I have more respect for a man who let's me know where he stands, even if he's wrong. Than the one who comes up like an angel and is nothing but a devil. - Malcolm X

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                  • youvalss
                    ******
                    • Feb 2007
                    • 16601

                    #24
                    Re: There is 3 seconds left and your team is down by 1

                    A lot of people forget that MJ can draw the double team and then u have Kerr (for example) open. Remember MJ has a very high basketball IQ.
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                    • Dice
                      Sitting by the door
                      • Jul 2002
                      • 6627

                      #25
                      Re: There is 3 seconds left and your team is down by 1

                      Originally posted by Bizzy Da Kid
                      Agreed...you have to be on hard drugs to pick anyone else.

                      MJ's resume compared to those others listed....are you freakin serious?
                      I don't know about that. MJ is my choice but Bird has had a number of game winners in his career. Bird is a close second to MJ.
                      I have more respect for a man who let's me know where he stands, even if he's wrong. Than the one who comes up like an angel and is nothing but a devil. - Malcolm X

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                      • ifiok25
                        MVP
                        • Aug 2004
                        • 3509

                        #26
                        Re: There is 3 seconds left and your team is down by 1

                        Michael Jordan. No questions asked.

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                        • dragon4ever
                          Pro
                          • Sep 2003
                          • 735

                          #27
                          Re: There is 3 seconds left and your team is down by 1

                          I'm shocked at the results of this poll. Jordan was great, but no one, and I repeat no one, was more clutch than Bird. I think many of you actually never seen Bird play before.

                          You know, a lot of people have forgotten -- or maybe never really knew -- just how good Larry Bird was back in the day. I think these same people assume that Bird, while generally a better rebounder and passer, couldn't keep up with Jordan in the scoring department. Wrong. Unlike Jordan, Bird didn't care about winning the scoring title. And, with teamates like Kevin McHale and Robert Parish, he didn't have to.

                          Make no mistake, though: Bird could put the ball in the hoop. Casual fans only remember the Larry Bird of the early 90s. By that time, his back was injured so badly he was practically a cripple (and, indeed, he spent time in traction between games during the 1991 playoffs). Of course, he still averaged 20/9/7 a game during his final two seasons.

                          The point (no pun intended) of all this should be clear: When healthy, Bird could score with Jordan whenever he was inclined to do so. While many people just matter-of-factly declare Jordan as the GOAT, everyone should be aware that Larry Bird, healthy and in his prime, was as good as Jordan...even better in some areas (such as rebounding, passing, and clutch performance). Although, admittedly, he was never as good of an individual defender as Jordan, but he wasn't quite as bad as everyone seems to think (again, most fans only remember the nearly immobile Bird from the end of his career).

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                          • Kodii Rockets
                            I smell sulfur...
                            • Sep 2007
                            • 2670

                            #28
                            Re: There is 3 seconds left and your team is down by 1

                            You're nuts, Bird couldn't create his own shot like Jordan could, and for each last second bird clip that you post I could post 3 of Jordan's. And I did watch them both and there was no comparison, Bird was great. He was after all, Larry Legend, but to pick him over Jordan is crazy...
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                            • dragon4ever
                              Pro
                              • Sep 2003
                              • 735

                              #29
                              Re: There is 3 seconds left and your team is down by 1

                              Originally posted by b.a.sick
                              You're nuts, Bird couldn't create his own shot like Jordan could, and for each last second bird clip that you post I could post 3 of Jordan's. And I did watch them both and there was no comparison, Bird was great. He was after all, Larry Legend, but to pick him over Jordan is crazy...
                              Not when it comes to clutch shots. Believe me, Bird could create his own shots as well. Maybe not quite as good as Jordan, but Bird was still talented in that area. Let's take a look at Jordan vs. Bird matchup:

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                              The following clip shows the highlights from a classic shootout between Larry Bird and Michael Jordan. It took place on April 21, 1988 at the Boston Garden. Bird had 44 points (on 19-for-29 shooting) and 10 rebounds, Jordan had 39 (17-for-33) and 8 assists, and the Celtics beat the Bulls 126-119.

                              But it's interesting to look back at the Bird/Jordan duels of the 1986-87 and 1987-88 campaigns. Those were Bird's last two healthy years, and they were also the seasons that Jordan was at his most statistically dominant (37/5/4 in '87 and 35/5/5 in '88).

                              In 1986-87, Bird averaged 34 PPG (on 56 percent shooting) against the Bulls; Jordan averaged 29 PPG (on 42 percent shooting) against the Celtics. Bird outscored Jordan in four out of six games, and two of those times it wasn't even close: On March 27, 1987 Bird hit for 41 (17-29) compared to Jordan's 22 (9-23); on April 17, 1987 Bird netted 38 (17-29 again) and Jordan had only 17 (5-15).

                              In 1987-88, Bird averaged 34 PPG (on 59 percent shooting) against the Bulls (although he missed two of the games due to injury), while Jordan scorched the Celtics for 39 PPG (on 55 percent shooting), including one 50-point outburst. Bird outscored Jordan twice in the games they played against each other: 33 (14-21) to 26 (10-18) and 44 to 39 (as noted above). They had another great shootout on January 12, 1988: Jordan won the scoring war 42 (19-35) to 38 (18-31), but the Celtics won the game 104-97, despite the fact that they had to start Dirk Minniefield (who??) in place of the injured Dennis Johnson.

                              For the record: The Celtics were 6-0 against the Bulls in 1986-87, and they were 3-3 against them in 1987-88. Of course, Bird missed two of the games in 87-88 (and Kevin McHale also missed one of those games); the C's were 3-1 with Bird in the lineup and 0-2 without him.

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                              • ZB9
                                Hall Of Fame
                                • Nov 2004
                                • 18387

                                #30
                                Re: There is 3 seconds left and your team is down by 1

                                a situation like you describe would probably require a jump shot (names of refs during situation not taken into account). I would take Bird. He was a better shooter than anyone listed here, and he hit as many or more clutch shots than anyone listed here
                                Last edited by ZB9; 10-27-2007, 10:30 PM.

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