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  • HMcCoy
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    • Jan 2003
    • 8212

    #1

    Call your shot..Hawks for real?

    After aquiring so many high picks, are the Hawks finally ready to take flight?
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  • jmood88
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    • Jul 2003
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    #2
    Re: Call your shot..Hawks for real?

    I hope so. They have too much talent to be horrible like they usually are.
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    • jfsolo
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      • May 2003
      • 12965

      #3
      Re: Call your shot..Hawks for real?

      As with any young team, until they can compete and get some quality wins on the road, you have to say "not yet".
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      • Briman123
        MVP
        • Oct 2004
        • 1361

        #4
        Re: Call your shot..Hawks for real?

        Maybe in video games they are very good but I still think they are just a year short of making noise. Tho I wouldn't be shocked if they make the playoffs as a 7th or 8th seed.
        18-1 hell of a season regardless

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        • Bornindamecca
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          • Jul 2007
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          #5
          Re: Call your shot..Hawks for real?

          Even with their aquisitions, they have a major talent issue. Their best player is not as dominant as the best player on other teams.

          If I were a GM, I'd take these Eastern Conference players over Joe Johnson:

          Jason Kidd
          Chris Bosh
          Dwayne Wade
          Lebron James
          Gilbert Arenas
          Zach Randolph
          Dwight Howard
          KG
          Paul Pierce
          Ray Allen

          I mean, the list can go on from there, really. They don't have the supporting cast to not have a blockbuster All Star. Joe Johnson is a fine player, but he's a second option, not a franchise player. They won't contend until one of their young guys emerges as a superstar. Until then, the best they can hope for is an easy first round exit. And at this point, that is wishful thinking.

          And that's not even addressing the fact that they are all 6'8. Who do they think they are, Golden State?
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          • nkhera1
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            • Oct 2003
            • 5913

            #6
            Re: Call your shot..Hawks for real?

            Of course the year the Suns get their number 1 pick guaranteed they are going to become good.
            Just wait till Arsenal moves into Emirates Stadium.

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            • J0nnD0ugh
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              • Feb 2003
              • 16602

              #7
              Re: Call your shot..Hawks for real?

              Don't the Hawks usually start off fast? like 5-6 wins in the season's 1st month, then 15-20 wins the rest of the way?
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              • Leahmic223
                MVP
                • Jul 2004
                • 2148

                #8
                Re: Call your shot..Hawks for real?

                Don't fall for this. I'm not falling for it yet. Bring this back up in around January.

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                • HMcCoy
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                  • Jan 2003
                  • 8212

                  #9
                  Re: Call your shot..Hawks for real?

                  Originally posted by Leahmic223
                  Don't fall for this. I'm not falling for it yet. Bring this back up in around January.
                  Lol, thats the point, Leah...call your shot. For real or Fugazi? I dunno, haven't seen the games, but there is definetly some talent down there...and it seems almost impossible that NONE of those high picks will become studs. I know that every year they show snatches of being really good and end up stinking yet again, but things have to turn around at some point, don't they? ATL could be scary if 2-3 of those guys suddenly start to "get it" at the same time. Not saying they will or won't, but if they do...

                  Is coaching the problem? Bet PJ would have that team on slap mode.
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                  • WilliamWilliamson
                    Pro
                    • Nov 2005
                    • 690

                    #10
                    Re: Call your shot..Hawks for real?

                    Originally posted by Bornindamecca
                    Even with their aquisitions, they have a major talent issue. Their best player is not as dominant as the best player on other teams.

                    If I were a GM, I'd take these Eastern Conference players over Joe Johnson:

                    Jason Kidd
                    Chris Bosh
                    Dwayne Wade
                    Lebron James
                    Gilbert Arenas
                    Zach Randolph
                    Dwight Howard
                    KG
                    Paul Pierce
                    Ray Allen

                    I mean, the list can go on from there, really. They don't have the supporting cast to not have a blockbuster All Star. Joe Johnson is a fine player, but he's a second option, not a franchise player. They won't contend until one of their young guys emerges as a superstar. Until then, the best they can hope for is an easy first round exit. And at this point, that is wishful thinking.

                    And that's not even addressing the fact that they are all 6'8. Who do they think they are, Golden State?
                    No way I'd take Randolph, Pierce, or Ray Ray over Joe Johnson.

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                    • Briman123
                      MVP
                      • Oct 2004
                      • 1361

                      #11
                      Re: Call your shot..Hawks for real?

                      Originally posted by WilliamWilliamson
                      No way I'd take Randolph, Pierce, or Ray Ray over Joe Johnson.
                      Zach Randolph maybe but you seriously think Joe Johnson is better then Pierce or Ray Allen? What has Joe Johnson done in his career to be considered better then the truth or ray allen? Has Joe Johnson even been on an allstar team, I mean come on.
                      18-1 hell of a season regardless

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                      • Leahmic223
                        MVP
                        • Jul 2004
                        • 2148

                        #12
                        Re: Call your shot..Hawks for real?

                        Originally posted by HMcCoy
                        Lol, thats the point, Leah...call your shot. For real or Fugazi? I dunno, haven't seen the games, but there is definetly some talent down there...and it seems almost impossible that NONE of those high picks will become studs. I know that every year they show snatches of being really good and end up stinking yet again, but things have to turn around at some point, don't they? ATL could be scary if 2-3 of those guys suddenly start to "get it" at the same time. Not saying they will or won't, but if they do...

                        Is coaching the problem? Bet PJ would have that team on slap mode.
                        Tell you what, Hawks beat the Celts later on tonight or if they keep it within 5 points, i'll call them for real.

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                        • RockinDaMike
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                          • Feb 2003
                          • 9092

                          #13
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                          I bet my brother 20 bucks the Hawks will make the playoffs. That's why the Suns need to trade that Hawk pick soon!
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                          • dossier
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                            • Oct 2006
                            • 2272

                            #14
                            Re: Call your shot..Hawks for real?

                            Originally posted by WilliamWilliamson
                            No way I'd take Randolph, Pierce, or Ray Ray over Joe Johnson.
                            How can you not take a big man who at this point is averaging 20 and 13? That makes absolutely no sense at all to me. And he is young so he has alot of mileage left over for consistent 20-10 seasons.

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                            • Bornindamecca
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                              • Jul 2007
                              • 10919

                              #15
                              Re: Call your shot..Hawks for real?

                              Zach Randolph is averaging almost 20 pts and 14 rebs a game. You guys are crazy. He is guaranteed buckets from every spot on the floor. You seriously don't know how good he is.

                              Joe Johnson is averaging 20 pts on 41% shooting. ????? Why would you want that over one of the few 20 and 10 guys in the league? Especially one who is what, 25 years old? You kidding me? Zach Randolph can literally score on everyone. He's strong, fast, a great shooter at the forward position and has a ridiculous...REE-DIK youlusss...touch around the basket.

                              I've been watching JJ since Phoenix, and he's a good player, but he's putting up worse number than Jamal Crawford this year.

                              Crawford: 24.7 pts 7.0 asts 2.7 rebs 45% from the Field 41% from 3pt range.

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