If The NBA Had A League Wide 1 on 1 Tournament, Who Would Come Out On Top?

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  • jmood88
    Sean Payton: Retribution
    • Jul 2003
    • 34639

    #46
    Re: If The NBA Had A League Wide 1 on 1 Tournament, Who Would Come Out On Top?

    Originally posted by tmagic_01
    Now I'm not saying that you haven't played ball before at all...

    ...But, if you have played, and had to guard somebody who is bigger than you and has some skill down there, then you should know that it's pretty hard to get around to try for a steal. It doesn't take a whole lot of movement for someone bigger than you to shift his body, or hell even hit you with a forearm, when you try and break for a steal.

    I imagine that SHAQ wouldn't have as much trouble keeping Iverson away from the ball.
    Have you gone against someone as quick as AI?
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    • HMcCoy
      All Star
      • Jan 2003
      • 8212

      #47
      Re: If The NBA Had A League Wide 1 on 1 Tournament, Who Would Come Out On Top?

      Originally posted by The 24th Letter
      Artest and LBJ would be a classic 1 on 1 game.....
      he's the only one LBJ cant just power through everytime....check out the next Cavs\Kings game....good stuff

      Yep. Artest also gives him fits with ball denial. He's strong enough to muscle LeBron around off-ball. I hate when that guy comes to town, cuz we don't have a PG who can make anything easy for James. When Bron gets it though, he can't be defended him one on one now that he has a decent J. To be honest though, there are very few, if any perimter stars that could be shut down with a completely open floor without being mugged anyway. Manu, Joe Johnson, Ray Ray...even the best defenders couldn't stop any of those dudes 1-on-1. You better just hope they miss.

      Shaq vs. AI wouldn't be a contest unless Shaq could have someone inbound it into the post. If Shaq had to take it out up top, theres no way he could put the ball on the deck and or hold off AI from getting around him or deflecting the ball. Your asking Aristotle to get from the top of the arc all the way down to his shooting area...right under the basket...without getting it poked by an elite steals guy? Impossible.

      And 'bows wouldn't stop AI, prolly the toughest lil dude in the league.
      Last edited by HMcCoy; 02-19-2008, 12:13 AM.
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      • TMagic
        G.O.A.T.
        • Apr 2007
        • 7550

        #48
        Re: If The NBA Had A League Wide 1 on 1 Tournament, Who Would Come Out On Top?

        Melo is strong as hell too. Watching him play, you see how strong this dude is. He's at his best when he is down low, and when you see him play, he just overpowers most of his defenders which is why he scores so much down there. I have seen so many times where he just lowers his shoulder or back down his defender so quickly on his way to a lay in.

        I just wouldn't think that he plays good enough defense to beat a few other guys 1 on 1.

        But, Melo is strong as hell. No doubt.
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        • The 24th Letter
          ERA
          • Oct 2007
          • 39373

          #49
          Re: If The NBA Had A League Wide 1 on 1 Tournament, Who Would Come Out On Top?

          Originally posted by DCAllAmerican
          Melo is still STRONG. He might not be as RIPPED. But he does have comprable strength. And is arguably the QUCIKEST of the 3. (not fastest)

          Damn some of you must not have heard of how strong Melo is.
          Yeah, Melo is beastly....he can overpower just about all the 3's in the league....but knowing HOW to use your strength is just as important in basketball, I think Melo is good at that....kindve like Bryant, not the BIGGEST dude, but if you jump with him hell bump you off of him and still convert....
          on the flip side of that, Wades a beast physically but he doesnt really use it ..he relys more on his speed, shiftyness....and self inflicted falls lol

          James and Artest are straight up brute though...

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          • DC
            Hall Of Fame
            • Oct 2002
            • 17996

            #50
            Re: If The NBA Had A League Wide 1 on 1 Tournament, Who Would Come Out On Top?

            I think the people who have the greatest combination of speed/quickness/strength/skill would reign supreme in this

            Names that come to mind

            Melo
            Bron
            Artest
            Paul Pierce
            Caron Butler

            I think those TYPES of players (strong wings) have the best shots of winning it all.
            Concrete evidence/videos please

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            • The 24th Letter
              ERA
              • Oct 2007
              • 39373

              #51
              Re: If The NBA Had A League Wide 1 on 1 Tournament, Who Would Come Out On Top?

              this may have been discussed, but how well can dwight howard dribble?

              he could be decent one on one

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              • TMagic
                G.O.A.T.
                • Apr 2007
                • 7550

                #52
                Re: If The NBA Had A League Wide 1 on 1 Tournament, Who Would Come Out On Top?

                Originally posted by HMcCoy
                Shaq vs. AI wouldn't be a contest unless Shaq could have someone inbound it into the post. If Shaq had to take it out up top, theres no way he could put the ball on the deck and or hold off AI from getting around him or deflecting the ball. Your asking Aristotle to get from the top of the ark all the way down to his shooting area...right under the basket...without getting it poked by an elite steals guy? Impossible.

                And 'bows wouldn't stop AI, prolly the toughest lil dude in the league.
                The Diesel would keep A.I. away.

                All he has to do is shield the ball away from A.I. whenver he goes for the steal. It isn't that hard to do. Iverson would have a lot of trouble getting around Shaq's huge frame and long arms.
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                • bigeastbumrush
                  My Momma's Son
                  • Feb 2003
                  • 19245

                  #53
                  Re: If The NBA Had A League Wide 1 on 1 Tournament, Who Would Come Out On Top?

                  Originally posted by DCAllAmerican
                  Ok THAT makes sense. My fault I was under the impression that you though he could STOP Bron Bron. My fault. No disrespect........
                  I'm saying 1-on-1, Artest could stop LeBron.

                  What?

                  Ever watched those 1-on-1 tourneys? By the end of the game, the bruiser usually pulls through. And that comes from constant hits, scrapes, bows, etc.

                  Don't think LBJ would finger rolls his way to a victory.

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                  • DC
                    Hall Of Fame
                    • Oct 2002
                    • 17996

                    #54
                    Re: If The NBA Had A League Wide 1 on 1 Tournament, Who Would Come Out On Top?

                    If Dwight played Big Shaq; how would he score on a consistent basis? Im sure his jumpshot is decent in a 1-on-1 situation in an empty gym so he might be able to beat Shaq THAT way.

                    But I wouldn't pick anyone of either spectrum (small fast or big strong) to win it all.
                    Concrete evidence/videos please

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                    • HMcCoy
                      All Star
                      • Jan 2003
                      • 8212

                      #55
                      Re: If The NBA Had A League Wide 1 on 1 Tournament, Who Would Come Out On Top?

                      Originally posted by Vince
                      Melo is fat compared to those guys.
                      Melo is the ultimate in economy of motion, though. Out of all the NBA stars he's a guy that IMO doesn't need to be in great shape. If anybody misses old school basketball, they should be in LOVE with Melo's game...youngin is as smooth as any player I've ever seen. Everything he gets in the post or high post he makes look easy. Even his dunks are efficient little punch outs. He can use his body well, he's smart...Melo is pure baller. if he could defend, he'd be in the convo for top 2-3 players in the league, IMO.
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                      • DC
                        Hall Of Fame
                        • Oct 2002
                        • 17996

                        #56
                        Re: If The NBA Had A League Wide 1 on 1 Tournament, Who Would Come Out On Top?

                        Originally posted by bigeastbumrush
                        I'm saying 1-on-1, Artest could stop LeBron.

                        What?

                        Ever watched those 1-on-1 tourneys? By the end of the game, the bruiser usually pulls through. And that comes from constant hits, scrapes, bows, etc.

                        Don't think LBJ would finger rolls his way to a victory.
                        (Magic)Gree to disagree(/Magic)
                        Concrete evidence/videos please

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                        • The 24th Letter
                          ERA
                          • Oct 2007
                          • 39373

                          #57
                          Re: If The NBA Had A League Wide 1 on 1 Tournament, Who Would Come Out On Top?

                          Originally posted by HMcCoy
                          Melo is the ultimate in economy of motion, though. Out of all the NBA stars he's a guy that IMO doesn't need to be in great shape. If anybody misses old school basketball, they should be in LOVE with Melo's game...youngin is as smooth as any player I've ever seen. Everything he gets in the post or high post he makes look easy. Even his dunks are efficient little punch outs. He can use his body well, he's smart...Melo is pure baller. if he could defend, he'd be in the convo for top 2-3 players in the league, IMO.
                          good post right there....love Melos game....

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                          • HMcCoy
                            All Star
                            • Jan 2003
                            • 8212

                            #58
                            Re: If The NBA Had A League Wide 1 on 1 Tournament, Who Would Come Out On Top?

                            Originally posted by DCAllAmerican
                            (Magic)Gree to disagree(/Magic)

                            LOL, seconded.

                            Also on the Shaq could shield AI thing...gree to disagree. I bet Dirk, ten times the ball handler Shaq ever was, wishes he could have shielded off Baron Davis in the playoffs last year. Dude couldn't take two steps without getting stripped or having to pick up the dribble. If it was that easy, Shaq wouldn't have to park himself under the hoop on every possession. I think you overrate Shaqs ability as a dribbler on the perimeter by a real huge margin, bro.
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                            • DC
                              Hall Of Fame
                              • Oct 2002
                              • 17996

                              #59
                              Re: If The NBA Had A League Wide 1 on 1 Tournament, Who Would Come Out On Top?

                              Yea I don't underestimate AI when it comes to anything. Someone THAT damn quick with arms THAT damn long with lung THAT damn elastic; there is NO telling what he would do in a matchup with Big Shaq.
                              Concrete evidence/videos please

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                              • WilliamWilliamson
                                Pro
                                • Nov 2005
                                • 690

                                #60
                                Re: If The NBA Had A League Wide 1 on 1 Tournament, Who Would Come Out On Top?

                                tough one, it'd have to come down to either Kobe, Amare, or Bron Bron.

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