T-MAC MVP?

**Streets** · 03-08-2008, 10:59 PM

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Originally posted by Vince

He's passed KG IMO.

No way in hell.

Signed,

one of the biggest Mac fans on the board.

**Vince** · 03-08-2008, 11:01 PM

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Yeah maybe i'm getting carried away, but he may get some considration. They are only 2 games out!

**Leon** · 03-08-2008, 11:09 PM

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That'd be amazing if he does get it. Right now though, all the MVP talk is on Kobe, LeBron, and KG. No T-mac talk in there at the moment.

Still, I'd rather see him get out of the first round.

23 · 03-08-2008, 11:12 PM

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The Rockets would have to go undefeated to even get him in the discussion...lol

**Flyboy** · 03-08-2008, 11:14 PM

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LeBron
CP3
Kobe
T-Mac
KG

That's my order imo.

**Tmacattack** · 03-08-2008, 11:22 PM

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Originally posted by KDRE_OS

The Rockets would have to go undefeated to even get him in the discussion...lol

don't count that happening out of the equation just yet:P. He's definitely not the MVP, but I stumbled onto something quite interesting today. Out of all the scoring gaurds in the league, he has the best mid range percentage by far. Bron is at 36%, Kobe is something like 38% while Tmac is at 44%, which is very good for someone not considered a shooter. I know this is random, but it just caught my attention.

**dossier** · 03-08-2008, 11:48 PM

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Originally posted by Tmacattack

don't count that happening out of the equation just yet:P. He's definitely not the MVP, but I stumbled onto something quite interesting today. Out of all the scoring gaurds in the league, he has the best mid range percentage by far. Bron is at 36%, Kobe is something like 38% while Tmac is at 44%, which is very good for someone not considered a shooter. I know this is random, but it just caught my attention.

Where'd you find that out?

But to go along, I wish MVP wasn't record related but by who is most needed by their team. If that were the case then it would easily be a five man race

**bball_1523** · 03-09-2008, 12:04 AM

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Originally posted by dossier

Where'd you find that out?

But to go along, I wish MVP wasn't record related but by who is most needed by their team. If that were the case then it would easily be a five man race

I agree, it should be mvp of what the team needs.

**Streets** · 03-09-2008, 12:06 AM

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Rick Adelman, Coach of the year?

would be a more appropriate thread at this point in the season.

**Tmacattack** · 03-09-2008, 12:08 AM

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Originally posted by dossier

Where'd you find that out?

But to go along, I wish MVP wasn't record related but by who is most needed by their team. If that were the case then it would easily be a five man race

When you go on nba.com, under stats there's a section called "NBA Live 08 Hotspots." It gives you a chart of a players percentages from every section on the court, it's pretty interesting actually. James had made 2 threes all year from the right pocket side

**Brankles** · 03-09-2008, 12:17 AM

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TMac's numbers aren't good enough to win MVP, whether he deserves it or not.

He's been playing like he's always played, maybe a little bit better. It's his teammates that are really stepping up, which is why they're on the huge win streak.

I don't think it's unfair to consider him a legitimate MVP choice... but if he did win, it would be breaking a lot of "rules" in which other MVPs have been decided on (numbers, top winning %, etc.)

If any of those guys won in the list that Flyboy gave, I wouldn't have a problem with it.

**edubbs** · 03-09-2008, 10:29 AM

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I really like what I'm seeing from Tmac during this stretch.

I just hope he has enough magic left for the playoffs. I would hate to see them peak now and fizzle out (gameplay wise) when the playoffs start.

He's definately ballin out of his mind right now but, I do not see him getting MVP consideration.

This stretch has reminded alot of fans of how great they thought Tmac could be.

Injuries, supporting cast etc. have always seem to derail those hopes. Hopefully he gets his due, come playoff time.

**Streets** · 03-09-2008, 12:05 PM

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Originally posted by edubbs

I really like what I'm seeing from Tmac during this stretch.

I just hope he has enough magic left for the playoffs. I would hate to see them peak now and fizzle out (gameplay wise) when the playoffs start.

He's definately ballin out of his mind right now but, I do not see him getting MVP consideration.

This stretch has reminded alot of fans of how great they thought Tmac could be.

Injuries, supporting cast etc. have always seem to derail those hopes. Hopefully he gets his due, come playoff time.

I agree. One thing I noticed watching last nights game is that Mac never sat down. I looked at the box score, and he played a full 48. He usually takes long rests, but not last night. Not only that, but he was playing the full 48 while being hounded by doubles as soon as he touched the ball on the perimeter. This led to an insane amount of threes and the win (From Mac either finding the open man, or finding the open man then that guy making an extra pass), so I'm not complaining.

But, you gotta wonder how long he can keep up the good play. The whole team for that matter. Will Rafer revert back to his old habits? (god I hope not, because I'm really starting to like him alot!)

**Mo_Magic** · 03-09-2008, 02:44 PM

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Originally posted by Tmacattack

don't count that happening out of the equation just yet:P. He's definitely not the MVP, but I stumbled onto something quite interesting today. Out of all the scoring gaurds in the league, he has the best mid range percentage by far. Bron is at 36%, Kobe is something like 38% while Tmac is at 44%, which is very good for someone not considered a shooter. I know this is random, but it just caught my attention.

Not really.

I don't see how you got 44% and 38% for Mac and Kobe. I mean, 74% of Kobe's shots are jumpers, he makes over 45% of them. That's including 3-Point %, so his mid range jumper is likely a lot higher than that(considering he's a 34% shooter from 3).

78% of T-Macs shots are jumpers(once again, including three point percentage), he makes them at the exact same clip that Kobe does. People seem to forget that T-Mac is actually, and has been, a really good shooter from mid range. I wouldn't say he's as good as Kobe, but he's really close. Where Mac struggles(and why he has such a low FG%) is that he cannot finish anymore like he used to. If you look at any star in the league they shoot around 60-70% when they get close to the bucket. Mac shoots 57% and that's not mentioning that he shoots a lot of threes, which may bog his percentage down some.

Keep in mind, these are efficient FG%'s, not FG%...

Mac does have a little bit better of a shooting touch than Kobe from mid range(partially because not every shot is a fade-away while not looking at the basket), but the discrepancy is not 44% to 38%, more like 44% to 42-43%.

Kobe is a better three point shooter, so it evens up the numbers on the jumpshot percentages.

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