T-MAC MVP?

[ex carrabba fan]

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So this officially puts an end to the Smush and Skip debate. SMH at you guys who kept trying to tell me otherwise

Mac has threw his name in the discussion. We'll see where his team ends up in the standings as well as the other teams.

[Tmacattack]

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Not really.

I don't see how you got 44% and 38% for Mac and Kobe. I mean, 74% of Kobe's shots are jumpers, he makes over 45% of them. That's including 3-Point %, so his mid range jumper is likely a lot higher than that(considering he's a 34% shooter from 3).

78% of T-Macs shots are jumpers(once again, including three point percentage), he makes them at the exact same clip that Kobe does. People seem to forget that T-Mac is actually, and has been, a really good shooter from mid range. I wouldn't say he's as good as Kobe, but he's really close. Where Mac struggles(and why he has such a low FG%) is that he cannot finish anymore like he used to. If you look at any star in the league they shoot around 60-70% when they get close to the bucket. Mac shoots 57% and that's not mentioning that he shoots a lot of threes, which may bog his percentage down some.

Keep in mind, these are efficient FG%'s, not FG%...

Mac does have a little bit better of a shooting touch than Kobe from mid range(partially because not every shot is a fade-away while not looking at the basket), but the discrepancy is not 44% to 38%, more like 44% to 42-43%.

Kobe is a better three point shooter, so it evens up the numbers on the jumpshot percentages.

no man, go to http://www.nba.com/hotspots/ and check Kobe's hotspots. The areas just inside the 3 point arc and add up all the shots made, divide them by all shots attempted, and at the most recent count, you get 38.9%. He is as of today, 152/391 from midrange.

[Streets]

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So this officially puts an end to the Smush and Skip debate. SMH at you guys who kept trying to tell me otherwise

Mac has threw his name in the discussion. We'll see where his team ends up in the standings as well as the other teams.

Me and my roomate were just talking about this. I was like, I can't believe that Rafer Alston was once comparable to Smush freakin Parker. I don't care what anyone says, back when Smush was playing, it was very debatable as to who was the better point. Right now, obviously, it's not.

[Mo_Magic]

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no man, go to http://www.nba.com/hotspots/ and check Kobe's hotspots. The areas just inside the 3 point arc and add up all the shots made, divide them by all shots attempted, and at the most recent count, you get 38.9%. He is as of today, 152/391 from midrange.

Oh.

See, what I did was include the percentages for everything but the innermost hot spot. lol,

Even so, he's had a bad run of luck from the right side of that hot zone. It's still hard to say who is the better shooter from mid range because five feet in front of that zone Kobe shoots 53% and five feet to the right of it 39%.

Still, in terms of absolute jumpshooting ability, it's about equal. Kobe can drill the 3 better than Mac...

[ex carrabba fan]

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Me and my roomate were just talking about this. I was like, I can't believe that Rafer Alston was once comparable to Smush freakin Parker. I don't care what anyone says, back when Smush was playing, it was very debatable as to who was the better point. Right now, obviously, it's not.

It was debatable talent wise, true, but us L.A. fans knew Smush was a mental midget. Skip, being the king of NYC streetball had that swagger that he was going to be o.k. no matter what. If something ever went wrong for Smush he buried his head in the sand.

Anyway as a fan of Skip's streetball days, I'm so happy to see him changing and adapting his game on the next level.

This streak is going to live on until they meet L.A. I guarantee it ends there.

[Kashanova]

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It was debatable talent wise, true, but us L.A. fans knew Smush was a mental midget. Skip, being the king of NYC streetball had that swagger that he was going to be o.k. no matter what. If something ever went wrong for Smush he buried his head in the sand.

Anyway as a fan of Skip's streetball days, I'm so happy to see him changing and adapting his game on the next level.

This streak is going to live on until they meet L.A. I guarantee it ends there.

lakers better end the streak cause if you lose to a yaoless rocket team im going to talk about it till may

[ex carrabba fan]

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Hahah that goes without mention Kash.

Looks like the B-Jax trade turned out for yall

[Vince]

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lakers better end the streak cause if you lose to a yaoless rocket team im going to talk about it till may

When does the 1st round end?

[Kashanova]

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When does the 1st round end?

depends i think we can beat gsw

[Streets]

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This streak is going to live on until they meet L.A. I guarantee it ends there.

I hate to admit it, but I think you're right.

T-Mac, Rafer, Battier, Scola, and Mutumbo

vs.

Kobe, Fisher, Odom, Gasol, and Walton? (Bynum will still be out, right?)

The talent surrounding Kobe is just insane. Plus, they have arguably the greatest coach of all time.

Kash is right on this one, the Lakers really have no excuse not to snap the streak. After the Lakers, we have a nice run of

Boston
@New Orleans

@ Golden State
@Phoenix (back 2 back)


Sigh...

[TMagic]

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It's far too early to be thinking of T-Mac as MVP.

It's only been six games, SIX GAMES, since Yao went down. Even if the Rockets keep winning games from now until the playoffs, it shouldn't even matter because guys like Kobe, LeBron, KG, and CP3 have been performing like an MVP the ENTIRE year.

[DC]

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If they win the rest of thier games then he would get it

[HMcCoy]

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Whats amazing is that Rafers numbers are almost identical to last year across the board. His shooting % is up from 38 to 41, but his 3pt%, turnovers, scoring average, and FT% are all slightly worse.

Adelmans system must make him look better, because his production hasn't budged. C.O.Y. indeed.

[Streets]

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Whats amazing is that Rafers numbers are almost identical to last year across the board. His shooting % is up from 38 to 41, but his 3pt%, turnovers, scoring average, and FT% are all slightly worse.

Adelmans system must make him look better, because his production hasn't budged. C.O.Y. indeed.

Very good catch. His numbers are eerily similar to last years aside from his FG%. I know it doesn't seem like it because he's a role player, but 3.7% is a lot. Looking at a superstar, it'd be like Kobe's FG% dropping from 46.4 to 42.7. Or if he raised it up to 50.1%.

Skip has raised his game up a level, hell the whole team has. It's great to see that McGrady doesn't have to carry them every freakin night.

Tonight, he came in, missed his first five shots, and dribbled the ball off his foot on a fast break. Coach sat him, and we went on a monster run and never looked back. T-Mac came back in and hit six of seven shots.

One thing Adelman does that JVG didn't is he uses the whole roster. Some nights Novak will play, some nights Brooks will play, some nights Hayes plays big minutes, and he adjusts according to matchups and injuries. JVG when players were injured just made starters play more minutes instead of going deep into his reserves. I love the confidence Adelman is showing in his guys, and its obviously contagious.

[Streets]

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I just took this debate to clutchfans, and most Rockets fans are saying that his overall stats this year are misleading. Rafer was shooting like less than 40% before January, which makes his current turnaround even more impressive. Because when Rafer was playing like crap we were not a playoff team (even with Yao). When he picked it up, the streak began. TMagic is right about pg play. Also, his defense seems to have picked up as well.

someone posted that Skip has been shooting 43.1% and 38.8% in February, 51.4% and 44.4% in March so far, which means he was shooting much lower before January