Wow. That line up is......wow. I may have only seen 2 players that could make any playoff team's top 9 players. Pathetic.
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Wow. That line up is......wow. I may have only seen 2 players that could make any playoff team's top 9 players. Pathetic.Originally posted by VP Richard M. NixonI always remember that whatever I have done in the past, or may do in the future, Duke University is responsible one way or the other.
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Exactly, It's not like I'm saying Seattle or Minny or the Clippers vs the top college teams. It would be a slam dunk victory for the NBA.
That Miami roster is a joke and a half.Comment
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If that lineup that played in that game played I'd be willing to be there are more than 4 college teams who could beat them. Some of those players weren't even that great in college, they are lucky to be on an NBA roster at all right now because of poor management and injuries. Now if we have a healthy Shawn Marion or Jason Williams added to that roster, much less say Dwyane Wade, then the Heat win easily.Comment
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Ricky Davis would probably go for 40 against any defender from the four college teams but I could see Memphis beating them. That is not a typical NBA roster, it's riddled by injuries and loaded with D-Leaguers. Rose would probably be the best player on the floor if they matched up."You make your name in the regular season, and your fame in the postseason." - Clyde Frazier
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If the game had anything to do with winning the #1 pick then Miami would lose. It's blatantly obvious that Miami has this roster b/c they want the #1 pick. First Wade sits out, then Riley leaves to SCOUT (does Miami not employ scouts?). Now they have a bunch of D-Leaguers and Ricky Davis. I remember joking around with my brother after they announced that Wade would be done for the season. I told him I wouldn't be surprised if Marion all of a sudden got "hurt".My NBA Teams:
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This same Heat roster a couple days before lead at halftime 45-43 against Detroit at Detroit. Detroit played without Hamilton and the Heat ended up losing by 17 but, still if they can hang with Detroit for a half in Detroit even without Hamilton they shouldn't have too much trouble with a college team.
The Heat players might not be household names and for a NBA roster the team is really weak but, they are still professionals and playing in the NBA. They have played against Detroit and Boston so, if their next game was against a college team the change the talent level would be drastic to what they just faced in Detroit and Boston so, I think they would win easily. Your talking about at best 22-23 year olds who are in college playing teams who might have a few NBA caliber players against playing the Heat who are older and have played against men at the highest level of basketball possible.Comment
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The 8 players in question appeared in a total of 293 games in 2006-2007. Aside from Davis and Blount, the other 6 appeared in 130 games. That includes Barron clocking 7 minutes per, Quinn at 9.8, and Johnson at 14.
The 2001 Duke team has 3 players unarguably better than anyone on the Heat (Battier, Boozer, and Dunleavy), and 2 who would be the second or third best player on the team (Duhon and Williams).
As I posted earlier, the Heat aren't anywhere near a collection of college stars. They had one decent prospect (Davis), 2 late second round picks, and 5 undrafted players.Comment
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You seem to be missing the point that this ISN'T an NBA roster, it's the roster of an NBA team.
The 8 players in question appeared in a total of 293 games in 2006-2007. Aside from Davis and Blount, the other 6 appeared in 130 games. That includes Barron clocking 7 minutes per, Quinn at 9.8, and Johnson at 14.
The 2001 Duke team has 3 players unarguably better than anyone on the Heat (Battier, Boozer, and Dunleavy), and 2 who would be the second or third best player on the team (Duhon and Williams).
As I posted earlier, the Heat aren't anywhere near a collection of college stars. They had one decent prospect (Davis), 2 late second round picks, and 5 undrafted players.
Most college teams will be lucky to have 1 guy make it into the NBA and while the best may have anywhere from 2-5 if they are an Elite team. The rest will probably never get close to an NBA roster. Unlike the Heat, in which every player can say he has played in the NBA. You said the Heat have 2 proven NBA players. That's more than any other college team out there.
Your talking about a college team who has never had one player who has played one minute in a NBA game beating a team who has at least 2 proven NBA players and 7 others who have at least played one minute of basketball at the NBA level. It's men against boys. The guys in the NBA live and breath basketball. They don't have limits on how much they can practice in a week. They aren't 22 years old. Your acting like those college guys will be playing at the level they will be playing at if they had spent 4 years in the NBA. Instead it's like taking, at best, 5 NBA rookies who haven't played in the NBA, or even attended a NBA training camp, and then filling out the rest of the roster with guys who aren't NBA worthy and beating a team which has played in the NBA. Most college players just don't go into the NBA play at their best level, as there is an adjustment to the NBA game. The college team may have more potential than the Heat but, if the game is played right now, I would take the Heat.Comment
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Most college teams will be lucky to have 1 guy make it into the NBA and while the best may have anywhere from 2-5 if they are an Elite team. The rest will probably never get close to an NBA roster. Unlike the Heat, in which every player can say he has played in the NBA. You said the Heat have 2 proven NBA players. That's more than any other college team out there.
Your talking about a college team who has never had one player who has played one minute in a NBA game beating a team who has at least 2 proven NBA players and 7 others who have at least played one minute of basketball at the NBA level. It's men against boys. The guys in the NBA live and breath basketball. They don't have limits on how much they can practice in a week. They aren't 22 years old. Your acting like those college guys will be playing at the level they will be playing at if they had spent 4 years in the NBA. Instead it's like taking, at best, 5 NBA rookies who haven't played in the NBA, or even attended a NBA training camp, and then filling out the rest of the roster with guys who aren't NBA worthy and beating a team which has played in the NBA. Most college players just don't go into the NBA play at their best level, as there is an adjustment to the NBA game. The college team may have more potential than the Heat but, if the game is played right now, I would take the Heat.Comment
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Okay Stephane Lasme played 22 minutes, a year ago he was at UMass. I don't think he would even start for one of these Final 4 teams. Just because you wear an NBA jersey doesn't make you better than every college player. The Heat have created a team of complete scrubs in an attempt to secure the most ping pong balls. It is not inconceivable to believe some elite college teams could take them down, hell that was probably the standard they set for themselves, a middle of the pack college team when they created this roster.
I'm going to take the team who at least has some proven NBA guys and some NBA experience over a team who has neither.Comment
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So which team are you taking? 75% of the Heat's roster was inactive for more than half a season last year. I wouldn't call those proven NBA guys. The only proven players on the Heat are Ricky Davis and Blount, and neither are anything above bench players on any other team.Comment
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I'm not saying Stephane Lasme is better than every college player as we are talking about team not players. Of course there are college players that are better than Lasme, thing is a couple of them play for UCLA, a couple play for Memphis, a couple are on UNC, etc. And Lasme isn't even the best player on the Heat roster. So, your comparing a Heat bench player to best players on some college teams. A team of the top college players would beat the Heat. I just don't think there are any current teams made up of the players they have now that can beat the Heat. The college team might have some guys who can compete at the NBA level right now but, who knows for sure how well and it would be asking a lot of them to come compete at a high level with no NBA experience at all.
I'm going to take the team who at least has some proven NBA guys and some NBA experience over a team who has neither.
Truthfully, the NBA should strip Miami of its pick for the crap they are pulling right now.Comment
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So which team are you taking? 75% of the Heat's roster was inactive for more than half a season last year. I wouldn't call those proven NBA guys. The only proven players on the Heat are Ricky Davis and Blount, and neither are anything above bench players on any other team.
Ricky Davis and Mark Blount might be bench players on other NBA teams but, Ricky Davis is a starter on any of the 4 Final Four teams and is their best player. Probably could say the same for Mark Blount and if not he is at least a starter.Comment
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Have you seen the movie Major League? You know how the owner wants to create the worst team possible just so she can relocate the franchise? Well the Heat are doing the exact same thing right now, but instead of moving the franchise they are trying to steal the first pick in the Draft. This is an NBA team only because it is affiliated with the NBA, not because these are some of the best basketball players in the world.
Truthfully, the NBA should strip Miami of its pick for the crap they are pulling right now.Comment
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It's not a easy adjustment to go from the college to the NBA.
Look at how some rookies struggle in their early years in the NBA
Bottom line is they are still a NBA team.
Ricky Davis and Mark Blount might be bench players on other NBA teams but, Ricky Davis is a starter on any of the 4 Final Four teams and is their best player.Comment
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