LAL need to trade for McGrady

[Bornindamecca]

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Im not going to go back and forward with you

Too late.

I said he would've made more of an impact than LO did in the finals and I stand by that. The man crumpled and disappeared like Pippen did against the Pistons in the late 80's.

Fact of the matter is McGrady is a greater player and could bring more to the team than Odom, doesn't matter if he's playing PF right now or not. The guy will be the scapegoat again once they begin to lose games, and thats the point.

I know the Lakers defensive issues and Lamar's position problem. Im not even talking about all of that, and the topic went south once it got past Altimus and, ec.

Dude, you posted that the Lakers need to trade for McGrady. Then you said that McGrady needs to go to the Lakers.

I disagree on both points because the Lakers are playing the best in the NBA, so in terms of needs they literally rank lowest on the list right now aside from the Celtics. For McGrady, he wants to lead a team to victory, not be third/fourth banana in Kobe's show. He wants to get out of the first round as the leader of a team.

That's not even the same issue as whether or not McGrady is a better player than Odom. Iverson is a better player than Fisher, but that doesn't mean that the Lakers need to trade for him. And if you're going to start theorizing about last year, you're the one all over the place because the Lakers team NOW is different than the one that played the C's. But you're talking about Trady being traded to the Lakers NOW.

[Cebby]

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1. The Lakers don't need to do anything. They're the best team in the league, and losing in 6 games in the finals without their starting C and key bench player shouldn't be seen as a horrible problem.

2. With TMac instead of Odom, the Lakers probably win the chip.

3. The Rockets aren't trading TMAC for Odom and co unless they start sucking hard.

Screw chemistry, if you can get TMac for Odom and then a combo of VladRad, Walton, and Sasha/Farmar, you do it. You don't deal any of the 4 real starters, and you need to keep 2 of Ariza, Farmar, and Sasha. I doubt Houston wants that garbage for TMac unless they start tanking.

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Re: LAL need to trade for McGrady

1. The Lakers don't need to do anything. They're the best team in the league, and losing in 6 games in the finals without their starting C and key bench player shouldn't be seen as a horrible problem.

2. With TMac instead of Odom, the Lakers probably win the chip.

3. The Rockets aren't trading TMAC for Odom and co unless they start sucking hard.

Screw chemistry, if you can get TMac for Odom and then a combo of VladRad, Walton, and Sasha/Farmar, you do it. You don't deal any of the 4 real starters, and you need to keep 2 of Ariza, Farmar, and Sasha. I doubt Houston wants that garbage for TMac unless they start tanking.

Of course they dont need him...lol but he could use them at this point of his career because of the coach (needs that psychological prompting at times) and the fact that he has a guy sort of like himself as I said who has been there and done that.

That said of course you dont trade the core and that wasnt something I said do, but good post. Im glad to see others chime in finally.

Trade or no trade though, both will be off the books soon and Free Agents, and Im sure LA would take that chance if given the opportunity if they had to choose between the two.

[Brankles]

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You know what I hated about this year's Olympic Basketball Gold Medal team?

They had too many good players.

Why have Carmelo on the court when you could have Battier, who plays defense and sits in a corner on offense and shoots threes? Why have Dwight Howard or Chris Bosh when you could have a role playing big man like Paul Milsap or Al Horford? And who needs Chris Paul... just give me a game manager who plays a little D, like Derek Fisher or Rajon Rondo. Just surround Kobe Bryant with these type of players and the rest is easy.


If I'm a Lakers fan, I don't want all these superstars on my team. Especially if they're team players who play great in the playoffs and would excel as a second option like TMac would.


Wait... what?

Of course you make this trade if you're LA. How is this not common sense?

[NINJAK2]

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Tmac would certainly help the LakeShow be even better. The way the Lakers are playing now though I would not mess with anything. I think trading for Artest in the off season would have benefitted them more than getting TMAC. I felt the Lakers needed that then and still need it now-- physical toughness, an edge to them. Kobe has it. Fisher has it. Sasha has a little edge to him. I just don't trust the rest of those guys when things get physical. Artest would help bring that along with giving the Lakers two really good perimeter defenders in kobe and artest. IMO...

[Bornindamecca]

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Tmac would certainly help the LakeShow be even better. The way the Lakers are playing now though I would not mess with anything. I think trading for Artest in the off season would have benefitted them more than getting TMAC. I felt the Lakers needed that then and still need it now-- physical toughness, an edge to them. Kobe has it. Fisher has it. Sasha has a little edge to him. I just don't trust the rest of those guys when things get physical. Artest would help bring that along with giving the Lakers two really good perimeter defenders in kobe and artest. IMO...

^^^I totally agree.

I find it hard to believe that Houston would trade McGrady for Odom straight up. It's difficult for me to even discuss that in hypotheticals.

[Brankles]

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^^^I totally agree.

I find it hard to believe that Houston would trade McGrady for Odom straight up. It's difficult for me to even discuss that in hypotheticals.

That would be absurd.

[Chip Douglass]

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LA doesn't need to trade for anyone.

This is silly.

[Jasong7777]

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OH HELL NAW

Love TMac, but don't need him.

[ex carrabba fan]

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You know what I hated about this year's Olympic Basketball Gold Medal team?

They had too many good players.

Why have Carmelo on the court when you could have Battier, who plays defense and sits in a corner on offense and shoots threes? Why have Dwight Howard or Chris Bosh when you could have a role playing big man like Paul Milsap or Al Horford? And who needs Chris Paul... just give me a game manager who plays a little D, like Derek Fisher or Rajon Rondo. Just surround Kobe Bryant with these type of players and the rest is easy.


If I'm a Lakers fan, I don't want all these superstars on my team. Especially if they're team players who play great in the playoffs and would excel as a second option like TMac would.


Wait... what?

Of course you make this trade if you're LA. How is this not common sense?

Stop with all of the exaggerations and please don't inject Kobe into the convo like someone's trying to make him out to be MJ.

Born pretty much gave you all the reasoning as to why the Lakers wouldn't do the trade. The only reason I'm hesitant to do the deal is because I wouldn't want to trade for damaged goods. His injury troubles just seem to be mounting.. it's really sad.

This trade is not as simple as you make it out to be.

[Fiasco West]

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Well if I were the Rockets i'd take Bynum or Gasol...that's it. Yeah Tmac has had his injuries but trading him for Odom or any other role player is not worth it.

I also disagree about Battier not being a game changer...I saw when we played the game without Tmac and Battier and Artest BOTH on the floor. Wow...I can't wait until Tmac gets healthy(if?) and plays with those two. Battier was the main reason we whooped the Spurs that night when they were full healthy. He cameoff the bench to guard Manu or Mason...and in return he would post them up. He did all the little things and literally was the reason we won that game. Battier and Artest on the floor together really mucks things up for the other team. Also what he does mentally for the Rockets is enough in itself.

Also if the Lakers were in a clutch situation it would not work. Tmac is the man for the Rockets in clutch situations. I should find the article where Artest has to ask mcgrady if it's cool for him to take over in the clutch. So how would it work...down by 4 in the 4th with 2mins left? You can't have Kobe and Tmac on the floor...Tmac is just going to run up to the 3 point line a few times and chuck up a 3 that either you'll love him for or hate him for. I also disagree that Tmac needs the Lakers.

Tmac is pretty selfish. I don't expect him to want to go to L.A to be some Role guy brought in for extra scoring. You think about all the things he's said in interviews like "If we don't make it out of the playoffs...its on me!" and "Besides Yao I've never had nobody." he does have a ego. I think in the end he wants to be a focal point of a championship winning team. Although he said he would like to play with Kobe...I mean really I think a lot of players would love to also and don't take that as a foreshadow as he wants to play for the Lakers.

I also really disagree that he has to carry this team...when he's hurt most of the time and it ain't because he has to carry 11 other players. Yao shoulders as much responsibility and now so does Artest. He's been hurt and he hasn't been doing much this season to carry this team, in fact all our Role Players are doing everything. Guys like Scola, Landry, Brooks, and Hayes....yes Chuck Hayes. They are the reason for the Rockets Record right now, Tmac has had about 3 good games thus far. I'm not saying I don't like him, i'm just telling it how it is.

[Flightwhite24]

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or I should say McGrady needs LA

Yeah yeah go ahead and scoff, but at this point a coach like Phil is exactly what he needs. He also needs a player like Bean on his side who's been there and done that. He'd be a perfect 1b 2a option, especially since he loves to pass the ball around.

LA is going to depart with Odom at some point and the talent/fiscal tradeoff is worth it to them. It's not in the air or anything but I do think Tracy opened up the door at least by mentioning wanting to play with bean.

Mitch for all his criticisms at least believes in tall athletic players who can move faster than a turtles pace, and takes risks on players other than safe gambles.

Just a discussion topic but what do you think of the possibility?

KDRE. What tis this nonsense that you speak of? How dare you even think of breaking up my beloved Lakers with BROKEBACK McGRADY. You gotta love what the Lakers have going right now. To much chemistry for Kupchak to mess with right now. As Jim Jones says. The Lakers are "BAAAALLLLIINN!!

[ProjectRipCity]

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Why would the Lakers need to trade when they only lost 1 game so far?

[Flightwhite24]

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Why would the Lakers need to trade when they only lost 1 game so far?

This post says it all.

[Chip Douglass]

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Tracy would be redundant to LA?

Besides Kobe, who can you say could raise their game in the playoffs to the level he has?

T-Mac has raised his game in the playoffs?

lol.