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  • sqeg
    Banned
    • Jan 2008
    • 116

    #16
    Re: Folks Are Finally Seeing KG Is Really Soft (Stolen)

    Originally posted by BTB
    I think that people who are taking this to the extreme of "I have lost all respect for KG since he has been on the Celtics" are slightly biased in that if he was doing the exact same thing but still in Minny it wouldn't be discussed. There is an element of jealousy/hating on the top dog here and that is undeniable.
    I can guarantee you this ain't me. Screw that hating the top dog BS. If that were the case, I'd hate Pierce & Co. too, but I don't. Pierce is a beast & definately wish I had him on my team, & I enjoy watching Rondo get better & better with every game. Yeah KG was to a point, a jackass on Minny as well, but he's definitely taken it to another level since moving to Boston & getting his ring. It's like in his mind, the ring was his ticket to become an even bigger jackass, cuz the ring justify's it. I'd like to see KG try his antics w/someone like Sheed, instead of picking on the rookie & 12 man on Portland's bench.

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    • Hotobu
      MVP
      • Sep 2008
      • 1438

      #17
      Re: Folks Are Finally Seeing KG Is Really Soft (Stolen)

      To say that KG is soft for shooting jumpers is silly. Have you ever considered the fact that KG has a very low height to weight ratio, and that if he used all of his energy to bang on the inside he'd get winded faster, would play less minutes, and be less effective on defense?

      It's not like he's a bad shooter. Dude is a GREAT midrange shooter, and as he's got slashers playing with him to make himself a constant threat from that range is a good idea.

      Now if D. Howard tried to do what KG did then I'd call him soft.

      As far as picking on the little guys thing, who cares? Sports are as much mental as they are physical. A psychological advantage is just as good if not better than a physical one. If he can take a guy out of his game with words and gestures then I say more power too him. Basketball is not a sport of gentlemen. It's a physical grind. You can hug, handshake, and text each other after the game, but on the court anything that isn't called by the refs is legal.

      To call in some non-existant basketball mythos on how stars shouldn't pick on other guys has no place in any arguement.

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      • J0nnD0ugh
        Hall Of Fame
        • Feb 2003
        • 16602

        #18
        Re: Folks Are Finally Seeing KG Is Really Soft (Stolen)

        Just because KG isn't the one called on to make the game-winning shot, he's soft? Folks, the NBA is full of "role" players. Scoring is a role. A starring role. But still a role. It gets the most attention. But there is more to being a champion than just being the team's leading scorer.

        Boston has a scorer. Pierce. They have a wingman. Allen. KG takes care of the dirty work. He is the vocal leader. He is the quarterback. He is the main guy on the boards. He is the main presence on defense. He fills his role. All of the C's know their role. That's why they are defending champs. & why they are dominating this season.

        The number of NBA players that can reasonably do it all whenever called upon wouldn't occupy all the fingers on your hand. James, Wade, Paul. Shaq & Duncan could do so in the past. Howard may be able to do so in the future. That's it.

        If not being his team's goto guy on the last posession makes KG a softie, then the entire NBA is full of doughboys.
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        • DC
          Hall Of Fame
          • Oct 2002
          • 17996

          #19
          Re: Folks Are Finally Seeing KG Is Really Soft (Stolen)

          Originally posted by ryanm1058123
          How can you be the teams best defender when you dont even guard the teams best big man is my question
          Because he isn't the team's best POST defender

          He is the teams most versatile defender though
          Concrete evidence/videos please

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          • Bornindamecca
            Books Nelson Simnation
            • Jul 2007
            • 10919

            #20
            Re: Folks Are Finally Seeing KG Is Really Soft (Stolen)

            Thibadeau and KG deserve equal credit. Thibadeau has the scheme, but KG sets the example on the court, in practice and in the workouts. Pierce said that himself in the first couple of weeks of having KG on the team. He talked about everyone following KG's example as far as work ethic.

            Also like DC said, KG's versatility on defense cannot be underestimated. He's not as strong as Perkins, but it's not like he gets burned in the post either. Since they have Perkins, they have the luxury of not getting KG into foul trouble, and using him as help. As it is though, KG allows the Celtics to switch at any time, because he's agile enough to sustain D on mismatches. They figured out the same thing in Minnesota when they used a faux zone with KG roaming and disturbing the action all over the court, rather than locking him behind some post up player.

            As far as his mouth, I just think it's a sucka move when you only go after people you think you have an advantage on. You will NEVER EVER see KG do that to Ron Artest, Shaq, Kenyon Martin, etc. Didn't Pachulia set him down last year? Just as a man, it makes my stomach turn whenever I see someone being a bully. KG isn't from the streets, and I don't think he wants to be. He just tries to get into people's heads when he sees and advantage, and shuts his mouth when he thinks he might get his *** kicked.

            I still think he's a great player and a great overall sportsman with a great passion for the game. It just sucks that he's kind of a punk.
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            • nogster
              MVP
              • Mar 2006
              • 3833

              #21
              Re: Folks Are Finally Seeing KG Is Really Soft (Stolen)

              once again bornindamecca, i was going to post my 2 cents and you said it all for me..
              spot on imo..

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              • Kashanova
                Hall Of Fame
                • Aug 2003
                • 12695

                #22
                Re: Folks Are Finally Seeing KG Is Really Soft (Stolen)

                Originally posted by 23
                The Celtics defense is moreso credited to Tom Thibodeau than it is KG

                He was the one who changed the defensive philosophy in Boston coming from Houston under JVG.
                rockets are idiots for letting him go

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                • ex carrabba fan
                  I'll thank him for you
                  • Oct 2004
                  • 32744

                  #23
                  Re: Folks Are Finally Seeing KG Is Really Soft (Stolen)

                  Originally posted by Kashanova
                  rockets are idiots for letting him go [Rudy Gay]
                  Fixed

                  On topic, so much nonsense over K.G. It's getting out of hand now.. I mean the topic is worth mentioning, but mulitple threads.. it's getting excessive.

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                  • The 24th Letter
                    ERA
                    • Oct 2007
                    • 39373

                    #24
                    Re: Folks Are Finally Seeing KG Is Really Soft (Stolen)


                    wow. this is really getting redic now...

                    Im not even going to get into his SKILL offensively or defensively, b\c anyone doubting that in any just doesnt like Kevin Garnett...

                    as far as his mouth.....I guarentee people OUTSIDE of basketball care SO much more than the people in the league do..Its just the new thing to talk about. KG is the new Dirk I guess. people constantly talk about the image of the NBA, now someones soft or a punk b\c he doesnt go after the right people. how should he back it up? get in more fights? its crazy man....

                    More titles, more problems......lol
                    at least this distracts you guys from the Spurs until they start winning

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                    • 23
                      yellow
                      • Sep 2002
                      • 66469

                      #25
                      Re: Folks Are Finally Seeing KG Is Really Soft (Stolen)

                      well this story is actually about a week old or whatever but I just dont see the need to keep going on about KG like this. It's not even news IMO

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                      • The 24th Letter
                        ERA
                        • Oct 2007
                        • 39373

                        #26
                        Re: Folks Are Finally Seeing KG Is Really Soft (Stolen)

                        Originally posted by 23
                        It's not even news IMO
                        not news at all IMO

                        maybe itll die down like the "LeBron is a bad person" talks after cussing at mommy last year LOL

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                        • Tecahl
                          Rookie
                          • Sep 2008
                          • 337

                          #27
                          Re: Folks Are Finally Seeing KG Is Really Soft (Stolen)

                          Originally posted by The 24th Letter
                          not news at all IMO

                          maybe itll die down like the "LeBron is a bad person" talks after cussing at mommy last year LOL
                          The difference being that LeBron doesn't curse at his mom ALL of the time, whereas K.G.'s a dick pretty much every time he steps on the court.

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                          • NINJAK2
                            *S *dd*ct
                            • Jan 2003
                            • 6185

                            #28
                            Re: Folks Are Finally Seeing KG Is Really Soft (Stolen)

                            Looks like KG has been inducted into the same class as Rodman, A.J. (of white sox):"people you don't like unless they play for your team"
                            EA and 2k have the unfortunate task of trying to balance on a tightrope of fun and sim while trying not to fall 10,000 feet to their death. Instead of a safety net waiting down below there will just be angry customers quick to move out of the way and talk of their failure.

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                            • J.R. Locke
                              Banned
                              • Nov 2004
                              • 4137

                              #29
                              Re: Folks Are Finally Seeing KG Is Really Soft (Stolen)

                              Originally posted by J0nnD0ugh
                              Just because KG isn't the one called on to make the game-winning shot, he's soft? Folks, the NBA is full of "role" players. Scoring is a role. A starring role. But still a role. It gets the most attention. But there is more to being a champion than just being the team's leading scorer.
                              I am not questioning KG is great. Nor is his role unimportant. I am merely saying Paul Pierce is the guy I look to when clutch time.

                              Garnetts offensive game is so soft. He is a 7'0 jumpshooter. Nothing wrong with that but that is why I call his game soft. He would rather face up and shoot 20 footers than play in the post. When in the post he often fades away too.

                              KG is somewhat soft mentally. He will shy away from taking the clutch shot. He has shrunk in the big game moment in the past. Paul Pierce has shined in these situations. That is what I am comparing.

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                              • jake44np
                                Post Like a Champion!
                                • Jul 2002
                                • 9563

                                #30
                                Re: Folks Are Finally Seeing KG Is Really Soft (Stolen)

                                I was trying to stay away from all of these KG bashing threads but I cant help myself after reading all of the post on this one.
                                First off the Celtics are not KG or Paul's team, they are just that a team.
                                If they where one mans team they would be just like the Lakers but they are not they are a TEAM. Not one individuals team.
                                KG is the defender and rebounder most nights while Paul is the clutch scorer. If one of the two didnt do their job the TEAM would lose.
                                Again it makes me laugh when I read about KG being soft or under rated, did no one watch the season his TEAM had last year? Or the record setting start they are off to this year? lol
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