This thread isn't about Kobe, so don't start with that

[GSW]

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lol @ Sasha creating his own shots.

lol @ Luke Walton creating his own shot

[GSW]

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who the Lakers really need is maggette.

Maggette for Lamar... get her done.

[Bornindamecca]

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@ Regrette Not enough offensive fouls off the bench for the Lakeshow? Wouldn't you love it, HAHA.

I wasn't even going to address the Walton issue

That's like the Lebron having AI handles thing....if you believe it, you can have it.

[TMagic]

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Is it really necessary that the Lakers have more perimeter players that can create their own shot?

They have Odom who can create his own shot and make plays for other guys and Pau who they can run their offense through when they aren't going through Kobe. When he is on his game, they can go to Bynum as well.

All three of them are good options for the triangle offense.

The Lakers also get plenty of points off of fast breaks. The personnel for the Lakers are very good in the open court IMO. They also get plenty of open looks from deep.

So I think that the personnel for the Lakers are great for how the Lakers play. In another system, they might not have the best personnel. But the Lakers personnel match up perfectly with their playing style.

So I think the Lakers have a very strong supporting cast. Is there any other team that has a better supporting cast?

[Cebby]

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Is there any other team that has a better supporting cast?

Pistons and Celtics

[ex carrabba fan]

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Anyway, Sasha can create his own shots as anyone else on this league. As for Jason Terry, yes, he's great, but there are worse players on this league who create their own shots. Oh and btw, Walton is another one who can create his shots.

Don't start with that. Please don't expose yourself

[J.R. Locke]

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Lamar Odom creates shots....

I like the Lakers supporting cast. If they stuck with the triangle more I feel they would be better off. Those role players fit better in that offense but for some reason....well.....this thread isn't about that.

Anyone the Lakers are the best in the west what more do you want?

[TMagic]

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Pistons and Celtics

That's arguable.


I wasn't inferring that the Lakers had the best talent.

Just that the Lakers have the best cast for their play.

The Pistons haven't gotten on any type of a role with their team even though they look like they have loads of talent on paper. Their starting five doesn't work well as a team. Their bench is suspect as well. The Celtics have a great and cohesive starting five, but a very lackluster bench.

The Lakers' bench is deeper than both of those teams.

The Lakers come off the bench with Odom, Ariza, Vujacic, and Farmar.

The Celtics come with House, Big Baby, Allen and Powe.

The Pistons come with Kwame, McDyess, Maxiell, and Afflalo.

So IMO, the Lakers definitely have the best supporting cast even though they may not be the most talented.

[DTX3]

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People in my country write endless comments even on the Pau era. It's like Pau is Oberto and Bynum is Mihm. You have no idea how ridiculous those commetns are, and it never stops!

"The Machine" usually creates his own shots and Fisher can do it whenever he wants. Farmar is another guy who's capable of creating his shots imo.
Anyway, if you could read some comments here you would think that the Lakers are Minnesota (minus Jefferson) plus Kobe.

Anyway, Sasha can create his own shots as anyone else on this league. As for Jason Terry, yes, he's great, but there are worse players on this league who create their own shots. Oh and btw, Walton is another one who can create his shots.

It seems like you guys need to watch a lot more basketball out there.

[ex carrabba fan]

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It seems like you <strike>guys</strike> need to watch a lot more basketball out there.

Fixed. SMH at the thought of Sasha and Puke creating their own offense. That's simply inexcusable to think, I don't care how much you hate L.A. or the Lakers. I'd give myself a red card if I ever said that.

[Jukeman]

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Lakers are fine and they have the best bench in the league IMO, no they are not stars but they are good role players, all they need is Lockdown defender and a legit SF,

[Bornindamecca]

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TMagic:

It's not about the Lakers cast being bad. I think we've all said that they are good. The issue is that cast matches up poorly with big, defensive squads at times, and the elite teams are all big and defensive. If they had more physicality overall, they'd be a real favorite to win, but as it is right now they have a big weakness.

Their strength(shooting) is strong enough to overcome that weakness, but it's still a hole they have to fill. The good news is they are a very young team, so guys like Ariza and Farmar can develop into what they need to be. They would still do well to get a PJ Brown, Kurt Thomas type of guy who can rebound, defend in the post, get nasty and make 17 footers.

Last year's Celtics, the Lakers of past years and the Heat team had an ideal supporting cast, imo. That's what I'm comparing it to, and in that sense, I agree with Hmcoy that this cast is a little overrated. They put up big numbers against bad teams and that inflates people's opinion of them. Good, but not great. I wouldn't put too much stock into their style of play, because their style is a biproduct of their personnel.

[DTX3]

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Fixed.

Look at the first quote, but yeah its pretty ridiculous to say that Sasha and Walton could create their own shots.

[ex carrabba fan]

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Look at the first quote, but yeah its pretty ridiculous to say that Sasha and Walton could create their own shots.

Well it's a given that any random group of people will probably display ignorance. The fact that the OP is even giving credence to them is questionable. Everyone knows the Lakers are a deep team.

Then you add in the OP thinks a spot up 3 point shooter, and an unathletic, flat-footed, more heady than flash player are guys who can create their own shots.. well that just says a lot about the OP.

[billmatic]

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I don't what games you guys have been watching, Sasha Vujacic is basically the second coming Pistol Pete. The coaches just hate him for some reason.