This thread isn't about Kobe, so don't start with that

[ex carrabba fan]

Re: This thread isn't about Kobe, so don't start with that

Oh wait your saying my OPINION is wrong? I think If Utah Actually gets going and get their damn players healthy they could possibly do better, same goes for Houston. Celtics know the Lakers really and vice versa BUT I just think the Celtics just have that mental advantage over them.

You can say what you want, I still think all those players can create their own shots. I'm not gonna change your opinion and you're not gonna change mine.

So here's what we've learned from this wonderful and insightful thread:

1. Utah>L.A. and if Houston is healthy, Houston>L.A.
2. Luke motherfreakin Walton and Sasha the female dog Vujacic are capable of creating their own shots.

loves it. OS RULES

Brankles, I co-sign with everything you said in your post except that Fisher's D is "good". I would characterize his defense as decent.

[TMagic]

Re: This thread isn't about Kobe, so don't start with that

Just my two cents...

I believe Houston certainly has the chance to be better than the Lakers if healthy.

Especially if T-Mac really is "back".

[ex carrabba fan]

Re: This thread isn't about Kobe, so don't start with that

Just my two cents...

I believe Houston certainly has the chance to be better than the Lakers if healthy.

Especially if T-Mac really is "back".

"Has the chance to be better".. The other dude flipped up his words to make his views sound similar to yours.

Don't give me this "a chance to" business. That's not predicting or saying much. Of course there's "a chance" for anything to happen.

[TMagic]

Re: This thread isn't about Kobe, so don't start with that

"Has the chance to be better".. The other dude flipped up his words to make his views sound similar to yours.

Don't give me this "a chance to" business. That's not predicting or saying much. Of course there's "a chance" for anything to happen.

C'mon EX If you take the word "chance" for it's literal meaning.

In that case every team in the league has the "chance" to be better than the Lakers.

If I were to say that Oklahoma City has the "chance" to win the NBA championship this year, people, including yourself, would think I was ********.

But according to what you just said, that statement would be true.

When talking sports, the word "chance" takes on a different meaning and you know that.

So I'll go ahead and put it another way since you want to be technical. I believe Houston has about a 47.5% "chance" of being a better team than the Lakers when healthy.

:wink:

[ex carrabba fan]

Re: This thread isn't about Kobe, so don't start with that

C'mon EX If you take the word "chance" for it's literal meaning.

In that case every team in the league has the "chance" to be better than the Lakers.

If I were to say that Oklahoma City has the "chance" to win the NBA championship this year, people, including yourself, would think I was ********.

But according to what you just said, that statement would be true.

When talking sports, the word "chance" takes on a different meaning and you know that.

So I'll go ahead and put it another way since you want to be technical. I believe Houston has about a 47.5% "chance" of being a better team than the Lakers when healthy.

:wink:

that was my point though. When you leave it as ambiguous as "has the chance to be better".. well to me that isn't saying much.

[Bornindamecca]

Re: This thread isn't about Kobe, so don't start with that

I gotta side with Ex C on this one, TMagic.

[Mark Jackson voice] "You're riding the fence on this one, and you're better than that!"

You're not really fence riding, but you know the game well enough to post up the factors and matchups that would result in Houston going to the Finals.

I'll set it up:

The Houston Rockets are completely healthy. What do they need to do to beat the top 3 teams in the West? What are their matchup advantages? What are their matchup disadvantages? What is their ideal winning gameplan on offense/defense?

[TMagic]

Re: This thread isn't about Kobe, so don't start with that

Ha...

Alright. I got you. Give me a sec...you will have your answer shortly...lol

[Brankles]

Re: This thread isn't about Kobe, so don't start with that

youvalls, I feel bad for you my man, everybody is piling on. I'm gonna try my best to help you out.

1) Sasha doesn't create really anything at all. He is almost primarily a spot up shooter. His PG abilities are suspect, his D is suspect, and his ballhandling is suspect. I can't really defend your statement as him being a guy who can get his own looks.

2) Walton, however, does create... but not typically for himself. He's a good passer and a decent ball handler and has good basketball IQ. The combination of Walton and Sasha is a good one, because Walton can usually find the open man if teams decide to play off of Vujacic.

[ex carrabba fan]

Re: This thread isn't about Kobe, so don't start with that

youvalls, I feel bad for you my man, everybody is piling on. I'm gonna try my best to help you out.

1) Sasha doesn't create really anything at all. He is almost primarily a spot up shooter. His PG abilities are suspect, his D is suspect, and his ballhandling is suspect. I can't really defend your statement as him being a guy who can get his own looks.

2) Walton, however, does create... but not typically for himself. He's a good passer and a decent ball handler and has good basketball IQ. The combination of Walton and Sasha is a good one, because Walton can usually find the open man if teams decide to play off of Vujacic.

I mean o.k. make a claim about something that's debatable at least. His statements were more than outlandish.

DC posted stats that basically say 100% of Female Dog's and Puke's points come off an assist, then he comes in with nothing to say back except "well you're not changing my mind".

You were correct on Female Dog and Puke for the most part, however just to be certain, Walton doesn't create his own shots, rather creates plays.

[TMagic]

Re: This thread isn't about Kobe, so don't start with that

Female Dog and Puke

What's your beef with Sasha and Luke man?

[ex carrabba fan]

Re: This thread isn't about Kobe, so don't start with that

What's your beef with Sasha and Luke man?

Nothing. That's just their nicknames.

Female Dog has been playing well of late, and Puke actually has been doing an acceptable job this year in a much different role. Looks like Phil is going to stick with Puke to start over Radman.. I won't call Radman garbage but if he wasn't on the team I wouldn't be upset.

[TMagic]

Re: This thread isn't about Kobe, so don't start with that

Nothing. That's just their nicknames.

Female Dog has been playing well of late, and Puke actually has been doing an acceptable job this year in a much different role. Looks like Phil is going to stick with Puke to start over Radman.. I won't call Radman garbage but if he wasn't on the team I wouldn't be upset.

Really?

I thought they would keep Vlad as a starter to keep the floor spread for Kobe and the bigs? Plus he's been knocking down the three ball very consistently this year. Even better than last year.

[ex carrabba fan]

Re: This thread isn't about Kobe, so don't start with that

Really?

I thought they would keep Vlad as a starter to keep the floor spread for Kobe and the bigs? Plus he's been knocking down the three ball very consistently this year. Even better than last year.

Yup, Phil's mancrush for Puke continues. Luke's been hurt, but he returned last night allowing Vlad to play only 5 minutes. I'm not against either Puke or Space starting. They both have shortcomings, but both have contrasting strengths.

[Bornindamecca]

Re: This thread isn't about Kobe, so don't start with that

Puke moves the ball well, but his defense against mobile SFs is aw-ful. At least Vladrad is big, so he can bother a shot or two. Puke is worthless on D sometimes. I remember that one year where he started out 40% from 3 and I thought he'd finally found his niche. If he could just get back to that consistent 3pter, he'd balance out his defensive faults on offense.