Hollinger's take on past 5 MVP's by the numbers-- Nash and Kob weren't deserving

[Brankles]

Re: Hollinger's take on past 5 MVP's by the numbers-- Nash and Kob weren't deserving

If ANY award is overrated, it is the Finals MVP.

Need to do away with that bull**** and just have a Playoffs MVP but then again, I'm sure people will eventually find a way to bitch and moan about that too.

Yeah, what happened to the Playoffs MVP? That's way more important than the Finals MVP, imo, because it takes into account the entire battle that is the NBA Playoffs. Losing in Round 1 is the same as losing in the NBA Finals when it comes down to it.

Tim Duncan was obviously the most important player on that Spurs team when he led them to the Finals, where they played a team game where Tony Parker put up the best numbers, thereby winning that Finals MVP award. Tim Duncan was clearly the best player on that team during their run to the championship, though.

[Cebby]

Re: Hollinger's take on past 5 MVP's by the numbers-- Nash and Kob weren't deserving

Not in Portland's market and not with the superstars we have now. It will be Dwight, LeBron, Wade, CP3, and maybe even Derrick Rose before he ever gets a shot at it.

Durant

The numbers and efficiency he's putting up for a 20 year old are absurd.

[Brankles]

Re: Hollinger's take on past 5 MVP's by the numbers-- Nash and Kob weren't deserving

Durant

The numbers and efficiency he's putting up for a 20 year old are absurd.

Co-sign. Durant will have MVP considerations before BRoy.

I don't think of Brandon Roy as an MVP caliber player, either. He's a great player, no doubt, but I don't see him getting this award.

[Vince]

Re: Hollinger's take on past 5 MVP's by the numbers-- Nash and Kob weren't deserving

yea because you guys are looking at brevin knights name, i brought him up because he was up there in assist... all you guys can think "oh brevin knight is a scrub"... but you will not think about the fact that he was averaging high assist numbers... the point i was making is that nash's production could have been replaced by any pass first player who can run, such as brevin knight who averaged 8.8 and 9.0 assist the 2 years nash won mvp... nash is a better player, better shooter at least not too much better at anything else... but brevin knight, he can distrubute the basketball, not just everybody averages 9 assist per game... and on that suns team they could have easily averaged even more assist that's all i'm sayin... that system leads to whoever is running the point averaging more assist... not just anyone can do it, but any good distributor can...

Most of Brevin Knight's assists came from players making jump shots. He's like Jose Calderon. He didn't really CREATE. He just found open shooters and they made the shots. Nash was a pure pg in every sense of the word. He penetrated, he found cutters, he made things so easy for his players.

[Vince]

Re: Hollinger's take on past 5 MVP's by the numbers-- Nash and Kob weren't deserving

Co-sign. Durant will have MVP considerations before BRoy.

I don't think of Brandon Roy as an MVP caliber player, either. He's a great player, no doubt, but I don't see him getting this award.

Maybe Roy, won't win it, but the point i'm trying to make is that the MVP award is given to players on the sole fact that they haven't won one yet...It is like voters just say " oh it's so and so's year to win it, so let's just give it to him before the season begins". Now that Lebron has his, I'm sure regardless of what he does next year, voters will feel it is Dwight's turn or D-Wade's or CP3's. Then the winner of that will be taken off, replaced and it'll be the same thing again for following seasons.

[DC]

Re: Hollinger's take on past 5 MVP's by the numbers-- Nash and Kob weren't deserving

Yea I said earlier this season that Kobe had his turn last year. He won't get it this year for that fact alone

[KG]

Re: Hollinger's take on past 5 MVP's by the numbers-- Nash and Kob weren't deserving

Durant

The numbers and efficiency he's putting up for a 20 year old are absurd.

Yeah, but he needs to get the hell outta OKC.

[TMagic]

Re: Hollinger's take on past 5 MVP's by the numbers-- Nash and Kob weren't deserving

Most of Brevin Knight's assists came from players making jump shots. He's like Jose Calderon. He didn't really CREATE. He just found open shooters and they made the shots. Nash was a pure pg in every sense of the word. He penetrated, he found cutters, he made things so easy for his players.

No, no, no. You just don't get it.

Brevin Knight is just as good as Steve Nash. If Brevin played in the Suns system, he'd be putting up the same, if not better, numbers as Nash.

PLUS Brevin gets more steals.

So this leads one to conclude that Brevin Knight is actually better than Steve Nash.