Turkoglu opting out of contract

[ex carrabba fan]

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Yeah just to ice this

KD

http://www.82games.com/0809/08OKC9.HTM#bypos

[Bornindamecca]

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Thanks, Ex.

Duly noted.

Then you might wanna revise this list so that it makes sense.

If I had to rank him among small forwards I would rank him 6th behind Lebron James, Paul Pierce, Brandon Roy, Carmelo Anthony, and Caron Butler.

[AlexBrady]

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Durant over Turkoglu? Not yet, Durant can light up the scoreboard from near and far but he can't play adequate defense , is a mediocre passer, can't rebound in a crowd, and still makes young mistakes. In time, he should pass Turkoglu,Wallace, and Artest for good.

Oh, and either way, Roy is 3rd behind Bryant and Wade if he is manning the 2 spot.

[Vince]

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Oh, and either way, Roy is 3rd behind Bryant and Wade if he is manning the 2 spot.

that goes without saying....

[AlexBrady]

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that goes without saying....

I was ordered to say it.

[ehh]

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Durant over Turkoglu? Not yet, Durant can light up the scoreboard from near and far but he can't play adequate defense , is a mediocre passer, can't rebound in a crowd, and still makes young mistakes. In time, he should pass Turkoglu,Wallace, and Artest for good.

Oh, and either way, Roy is 3rd behind Bryant and Wade if he is manning the 2 spot.

Turkoglu can't rebound in a crowd and has his fair share of bad turnovers still. He's a 6'10 guy who shoots 41% from the floor.

Durant is the best pure scorer to come into the NBA since Michael Jordan.

Jack of all trades, master of none or a dynomite scorer, take your pick but I don't think you can say one is definitely better than the other right now. For me, I take Durant easily. You're talking about a team's #1 player versus a team's #2.

[AlexBrady]

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Turkoglu can't rebound in a crowd and has his fair share of bad turnovers still. He's a 6'10 guy who shoots 41% from the floor.

Durant is the best pure scorer to come into the NBA since Michael Jordan.

Jack of all trades, master of none or a dynomite scorer, take your pick but I don't think you can say one is definitely better than the other right now. For me, I take Durant easily. You're talking about a team's #1 player versus a team's #2.

And that is all Durant can do right now..... score in bunches. Like I said, he should be able to pass the aforementioned forwards in time. He is the number 1 player on a 23-59 team. We will have to see if he ever turns out to be an authentic 2 way player or if he just puts up big numbers on bad teams. I'll be watching.

[Yeah...THAT Guy]

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If anyone was watching the NBA Finals they'd see that Turkoglu isn't exactly a defensive stopper either. He's lazy on defense and strong on offense. Durant is the same, but his athleticism puts him above Turk in my opinion.

[AlexBrady]

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If anyone was watching the NBA Finals they'd see that Turkoglu isn't exactly a defensive stopper either. He's lazy on defense and strong on offense. Durant is the same, but his athleticism puts him above Turk in my opinion.

No, he was severely worn down by Ariza's sterling defensive efforts (always keeping contact on their screen/rolls) and having to carry the ball up court, acting as a traffic cop facilitating the offense, and having to be the team's primary scorer and creator off the dribble took a severe toll on Turkoglu's out of shape body. He simply didn't have much energy to play defense (which is adequate but he is not a stopper by any means). His closeouts were late and weak, his rotations were a mite late, and his contests were half hearted. It is the same deal that happened to Pierce (in the 2nd round) actually since both him and Turkoglu play similar roles within their teams.

[Brankles]

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At 6'10 turk has serious game. He means more to orlando that he would mean in another place. In crunch time if he can't score they are in trouble. Plus I think some are discounting waay too much how good this guy is in the clutch.

I'm a big Turkoglu fan and he's a great fit in Orlando. He has all the freedom he could possibly receive in the NBA on the offensive side of the ball and doesn't have to do much on D. If we could get him for a year or two, it would be worth it. Any more than that, and he's too much of a salary liability.

I like the idea of getting Joe Johnson, who can create for himself and is somewhat of a clutch player. Whatever guy we get, he needs to be a creator and not a Rashard Lewis/Trevor Ariza catch-and-shoot type of player.

[AlexBrady]

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I'm a big Turkoglu fan and he's a great fit in Orlando. He has all the freedom he could possibly receive in the NBA on the offensive side of the ball and doesn't have to do much on D. If we could get him for a year or two, it would be worth it. Any more than that, and he's too much of a salary liability.

I like the idea of getting Joe Johnson, who can create for himself and is somewhat of a clutch player. Whatever guy we get, he needs to be a creator and not a Rashard Lewis/Trevor Ariza catch-and-shoot type of player.

Breaking the bank on Rashard Lewis was the big mistake the Magic commited. While Rashard does space the floor very well, is a great 3 point shooter and has 2 semi effective post moves he just isn't cut out to be a max player. You're right Joe Johnson is dynamite in the clutch, a good creator, and a great one on one scoerer, not to mention he can do a yoeman's job defending the perimeter.

[Yeah...THAT Guy]

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I'm a big Turkoglu fan and he's a great fit in Orlando. He has all the freedom he could possibly receive in the NBA on the offensive side of the ball and doesn't have to do much on D. If we could get him for a year or two, it would be worth it. Any more than that, and he's too much of a salary liability.

I like the idea of getting Joe Johnson, who can create for himself and is somewhat of a clutch player. Whatever guy we get, he needs to be a creator and not a Rashard Lewis/Trevor Ariza catch-and-shoot type of player.

I haven't been reading the whole thread or anything so I'm just wondering who you mean by "we"?

[ehh]

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I haven't been reading the whole thread or anything so I'm just wondering who you mean by "we"?

I guess your SN is quite fitting!

[Brankles]

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Breaking the bank on Rashard Lewis was the big mistake the Magic commited. While Rashard does space the floor very well, is a great 3 point shooter and has 2 semi effective post moves he just isn't cut out to be a max player. You're right Joe Johnson is dynamite in the clutch, a good creator, and a great one on one scoerer, not to mention he can do a yoeman's job defending the perimeter.

I hated the signing of Rashard Lewis and I still do, despite Orlando's recent success. He's a good role player and is all-star caliber, but no way is he worth the money he's getting. He's making Kobe Bryant/LeBron James/Dwyane Wade money and he's the third best player on Orlando. At the time, before Jameer was playing at the level he was this year, I wanted them to sign Chauncey Billups. Now I want the Magic simply to clear cap space and sign a legitimate star next off-season. Rashard Lewis is not a star and doesn't deserve superstar money for being a glorified role player.

[Court_vision]

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Rashard Lewis is not a star and doesn't deserve superstar money for being a glorified role player.

He is a star...he's a legit all star.

He's just not a 'superstar'...except for salary

If Shard played for the Cavs, they'd have won that series easily. He'd be a superb side kick to LeBron.

So....the guys a legit 'factor' in who will win the east and will be for the next few seasons. It's not his fault the Magic big about $40 million more than they had to. There was no one else even bidding at the time, I am sure they'd have got him anyway