Best backup at each position?

[Cebby]

Re: Best backup at each position?

I like your thinking, however you need to leave Gordon off by your logic.

The difference is Gordon is behind a legitimately better (or equal) player whereas Manu and Terry are clearly better than whoever starts. It depends on how much they play together.

[vaballer34]

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Why no Will Bynum???

IMO he is the best backup PG and I don't think its close.

[ex carrabba fan]

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The difference is Gordon is behind a legitimately better (or equal) player whereas Manu and Terry are clearly better than whoever starts. It depends on how much they play together.

Terry is not clearly better/equal than Kidd nor Josh Howard but I see where you were coming from.

Why no Will Bynum???

IMO he is the best backup PG and I don't think its close.

Hmm. Na.

Kirk, DJ, Blake, Jack, Crawford, Nate are arguably equal at least. And I'm sure I'm missing others as well. Bynum deserves mention though.

[NBA2k8 CHAMP]

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Iverson
Gordon
Manu ....Plays 2 & 3
Odom
Camby

[o_capone]

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Why no Will Bynum???

IMO he is the best backup PG and I don't think its close.

are you kidding me? he is the best and it's not close? what has this guy ever done? has he ever showed he can even play at a high level for a full season? dude would not even be in my top 20 if I was building a team and needed a backup point guard...

he averaged 7.2 points and 2.8 assist in 57 games last year and now people think he is something that he is not... yes he may have had some good games but damn, he is quickly becoming one of the most over rated players in the league by fans.. not to mention that he is 15% from 3...

[J.R. Locke]

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why not start him tho?

i'm one of those dudes who believes the best dudes should start... i hate seeing inferior players start over better guys... i can't believe denver is about to make him come off the bench again...

It makes sense. Nuggets last year started Billups, Jones, Melo, Nene and Martin I believe.

If you substitute J.R. for Dahntey Jones you add another scorer and an overall better player but when you have to sub out at the 4:00 or 2:00 minute mark and take out Nene and Billups you now then will have to sub Melo or J.R soon too.

So in the second and early 4th quarters you are going to have a lineup like A.C., Dahntey Jones, Linas Kleiza, Chris Anderson and another big. Who is going to score?

Why not just sub J.R. Smith at the 6:00 or 4:00 minute mark and let him be the scorer on the second unit.

Then Jones could do what he does best (guard the other teams best player) and J.R. Smith could do what he does best (jack up shots with no regard).

Certain teams it makes sense for teams to start their best 5 overall players but for other teams, especially those with true superstars it almost always makes sense to hold off a good scorer to come in and take on the other teams second unit.

[o_capone]

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it makes sense strategically but like allen iverson says, everyone wants to be a starter, the starters from elementary school, to middle school, to high school, to college, to pro, are supposed to be the best players...

[dossier]

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you don't think odom is better than ron artest? odom is not as good of a defender, but when it comes to rebounding and scoring, odom is better... he might not score as much as ron did playing on garbage teams like sac, but he can score in more ways and more efficiently imo... and rebounding it's no question... plus lamar can play the 3 or the 4, and also bring the ball up for you...

IMO rip hamilton is not as good as people think he is... being on that dominant detroit team made him look a lot better then he really is...

and I do see potential in millsap, but a healthy boozer is still a couple steps ahead...

Odom is a PF in my book.

[o_capone]

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lamar odom is a natural small forward... he can play power forward, but he is not a power forward at all..

[Brankles]

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Where's the love for Marcin "The Warlock" Gortat?

[ex carrabba fan]

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lamar odom is a natural small forward... he can play power forward, but he is not a power forward at all..

He's been playing PF for a while now as a Laker and it's clear he's more effective at the 4.

He may have been a "natural SF" but his game has developed as such that he may as well just be considered a full time 4. He's too inconsistent from the perimeter to be a 3.

[o_capone]

Re: Best backup at each position?

He's been playing PF for a while now as a Laker and it's clear he's more effective at the 4.

He may have been a "natural SF" but his game has developed as such that he may as well just be considered a full time 4. He's too inconsistent from the perimeter to be a 3.

he has played the 4 a lot for the lakers but even when he is in the game at power forward he still plays like a small forward... what power forward have you ever seen bring the ball up? his style on the court has small forward written all over it, even if he is guarding the other teams power forward...

[ex carrabba fan]

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he has played the 4 a lot for the lakers but even when he is in the game at power forward he still plays like a small forward... what power forward have you ever seen bring the ball up? his style on the court has small forward written all over it, even if he is guarding the other teams power forward...

LOL however you want to slice it. He plays the 4 no matter "how" he plays the position.

Like I said his game has developed over the years. He's never played with both Bynum and Pau on the floor one single time since Pau came.

[o_capone]

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LOL however you want to slice it. He plays the 4 no matter "how" he plays the position.

Like I said his game has developed over the years. He's never played with both Bynum and Pau on the floor one single time since Pau came.

bynum has been hurt quite a bit... but lets just call him a combo-forward... kinda like a combo-guard... neither one of us is wrong here, he definately has played more 4 then anything else for the lakers... but his frame, is the frame of a small forward, his game is the game of a small forward... kinda like travis outlaw... the blazers have used him as a power forward... so if someone calls travis outlaw a power forward i can't tell them they are wrong, despite his frame and his game...

[JBH3]

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Jarret Jack may be the best PG off the bench. Love him as a bench player.

I always view certain players as starters and certain players as bench players. J.R. Smith is a guy who I would never start but would play 30+ minutes for me.

Whoa Whoa Whoa OP and others...

No Randy Foye as best backup PG?

I think he's the most dynamic backcourt scorer off anyone's bench (sans Ben Gordon/Rip Hamilton), and just as effective a passer/defender as Hinrich.