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  • o_capone
    Banned
    • Apr 2009
    • 1270

    #61
    Re: Guess who already sounds upset in Memphis

    Originally posted by OSUFan_88
    Bolded for emphasis.

    He's a has been.
    ummm the only thing that's declined is his minutes if you didn't realize it bro... it's not like he was actually getting a chance to shine in detroit...

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    • OSUFan_88
      Outback Jesus
      • Jul 2004
      • 25642

      #62
      Re: Guess who already sounds upset in Memphis

      Originally posted by o_capone
      ummm the only thing that's declined is his minutes if you didn't realize it bro... it's not like he was actually getting a chance to shine in detroit...
      He got every opportunity to shine in Detroit, and instead decided to stick with selfish basketball.

      That's why he is going to end his career in damn Memphis and not with a title contender, because he still thinks like you think.
      Too Old To Game Club

      Urban Meyer is lol.

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      • ex carrabba fan
        I'll thank him for you
        • Oct 2004
        • 32744

        #63
        Re: Guess who already sounds upset in Memphis

        Originally posted by OSUFan_88
        He got every opportunity to shine in Detroit, and instead decided to stick with selfish basketball.

        That's why he is going to end his career in damn Memphis and not with a title contender, because he still thinks like you think.

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        • Brankles
          Banned
          • May 2003
          • 5113

          #64
          Re: Guess who already sounds upset in Memphis

          Originally posted by o_capone
          vince carter played 30 minutes tonight buddy... im sure iverson would have been perfectly fine had he played 30 minutes... he also led the team in fg attempts... just because you are coming back from an injury does not mean you should play such a small amount of minutes... if you are ready you are ready...
          Ok, not focusing on VC, which was a "PS", what about my other post?

          Do you really think AI going to the media was a good idea?

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          • o_capone
            Banned
            • Apr 2009
            • 1270

            #65
            Re: Guess who already sounds upset in Memphis

            Originally posted by ex carrabba fan
            You keep referring to his past.

            If he's everything you claim he is today, why didn't a single playoff team want him?

            Not just a contender, but at least a borderline playoff team.
            im actually referring to the season before last, not a bunch of years ago... the season before last was the last opportunity he had to succeed... and he played very welll...

            there is not ONE valid reason for people to say he is a has been when the last time we saw him actually getting a chance he averaged 26 and 7....

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            • o_capone
              Banned
              • Apr 2009
              • 1270

              #66
              Re: Guess who already sounds upset in Memphis

              Originally posted by Brankles
              Ok, not focusing on VC, which was a "PS", what about my other post?

              Do you really think AI going to the media was a good idea?
              ummm he was being interviewed and he said what was on his mind.. you act like he called a press conference to say he was unhappy...

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              • OSUFan_88
                Outback Jesus
                • Jul 2004
                • 25642

                #67
                Re: Guess who already sounds upset in Memphis

                Originally posted by o_capone
                im actually referring to the season before last, not a bunch of years ago... the season before last was the last opportunity he had to succeed... and he played very welll...

                there is not ONE valid reason for people to say he is a has been when the last time we saw him actually getting a chance he averaged 26 and 7....
                The last time Iverson got a chance, it was last year, where he started 53 games, averaged 18 points, 5 assists, on 41 % shooting and 3 turnovers a game.

                Iverson is nothing more than a role player now. It's not my fault he and you cannot accept that as a FACT.
                Too Old To Game Club

                Urban Meyer is lol.

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                • o_capone
                  Banned
                  • Apr 2009
                  • 1270

                  #68
                  Re: Guess who already sounds upset in Memphis

                  Originally posted by OSUFan_88
                  The last time Iverson got a chance, it was last year, where he started 53 games, averaged 18 points, 5 assists, on 41 % shooting and 3 turnovers a game.

                  Iverson is nothing more than a role player now. It's not my fault he and you cannot accept that as a FACT.
                  for one, everyone in detroit, including iverson and rip were doomed from the start with curry in charge and lying to everyone...

                  the detroit situation was a TERRIBLE situation for everyone involved... if you consider that to be a situation where iverson could do well then maybe you know something the rest of the world does not know...

                  The Pistons however, were a better team WITH AI, then they were without him.

                  BTW, role players don't score that much...

                  I want you to honestly tell me, in what ways did Iverson's game decline in between averaging 26 and 7 for Denver, and averaging 17 and 4 for Detroit?

                  he did not decline, his situation declined...

                  you saying he is a role player is not justified in any way...

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                  • Brankles
                    Banned
                    • May 2003
                    • 5113

                    #69
                    Re: Guess who already sounds upset in Memphis

                    Originally posted by o_capone
                    ummm he was being interviewed and he said what was on his mind.. you act like he called a press conference to say he was unhappy...
                    That's not what I was acting like.

                    Either way, you still think that's ok to undermine his coach like that after his first game just because it "was on his mind"?

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                    • o_capone
                      Banned
                      • Apr 2009
                      • 1270

                      #70
                      Re: Guess who already sounds upset in Memphis

                      Originally posted by Brankles
                      That's not what I was acting like.

                      Either way, you still think that's ok to undermine his coach like that after his first game just because it "was on his mind"?
                      i believe it is ok to speak your mind yes... it's not like he discussed a private personal matter in public, he was talking about his minutes... he is not the first or the last to be upset with playing time... and some times, like in this case, it is justified... anyone who watched that game knows he has every right to be upset...

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                      • OSUFan_88
                        Outback Jesus
                        • Jul 2004
                        • 25642

                        #71
                        Re: Guess who already sounds upset in Memphis

                        Originally posted by o_capone
                        for one, everyone in detroit, including iverson and rip were doomed from the start with curry in charge and lying to everyone...

                        the detroit situation was a TERRIBLE situation for everyone involved... if you consider that to be a situation where iverson could do well then maybe you know something the rest of the world does not know...

                        The Pistons however, were a better team WITH AI, then they were without him.

                        BTW, role players don't score that much...

                        I want you to honestly tell me, in what ways did Iverson's game decline in between averaging 26 and 7 for Denver, and averaging 17 and 4 for Detroit?

                        he did not decline, his situation declined...

                        you saying he is a role player is not justified in any way...
                        It has declined because he is not an effective scorer and his defense is getting worse. He averaged 18 points on 37 minutes a night. That pretty much means that he is a role player. Certainly not a star, and it's borderline starter/good 6th man.

                        He's a 6th man role player. The facts back me up.

                        And I'll agree, the Pistons were a grease fire last year. AI was more of a part of the problem than a part of the solution, though.
                        Too Old To Game Club

                        Urban Meyer is lol.

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                        • o_capone
                          Banned
                          • Apr 2009
                          • 1270

                          #72
                          Re: Guess who already sounds upset in Memphis

                          Originally posted by OSUFan_88
                          It has declined because he is not an effective scorer and his defense is getting worse. He averaged 18 points on 37 minutes a night. That pretty much means that he is a role player. Certainly not a star, and it's borderline starter/good 6th man.

                          He's a 6th man role player. The facts back me up.
                          lol are you kidding me? he was leading the team in scoring until he got benched and was getting less minutes then everyone on the team... then Rip passed him up by a small fraction... rip ended up averaging 18.3... is he also a role player? that led the team...

                          any time someone averages 17-18 ppg they are gonna be among their team's leading scorers bro...
                          Last edited by o_capone; 11-03-2009, 11:47 PM.

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                          • OSUFan_88
                            Outback Jesus
                            • Jul 2004
                            • 25642

                            #73
                            Re: Guess who already sounds upset in Memphis

                            Originally posted by o_capone
                            rip ended up averaging 18.3... is he also a role player?
                            Yes! Jesus, what do you think a role player is?!

                            I think you're still living in pre 2008.
                            Too Old To Game Club

                            Urban Meyer is lol.

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                            • o_capone
                              Banned
                              • Apr 2009
                              • 1270

                              #74
                              Re: Guess who already sounds upset in Memphis

                              Originally posted by OSUFan_88
                              Yes! Jesus, what do you think a role player is?!

                              I think you're still living in pre 2008.
                              so their two leading scorers were the role players? wow... i thought iverson and rip were their stars...

                              rip led that team in scoring 7 straight years, he definitely is no role player..

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                              • ex carrabba fan
                                I'll thank him for you
                                • Oct 2004
                                • 32744

                                #75
                                Re: Guess who already sounds upset in Memphis

                                RIP and AI are both 3rd wheels at best. Probably more in between 3rd and 4th wheels. So that's that

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