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  • KG
    Welcome Back
    • Sep 2005
    • 17583

    #16
    Re: Hasheem Thabeet

    Originally posted by wwharton
    I agree... they're different type of players in many ways, but what I think they have in common is the lack of killer instinct or competitive "want to". I put them in the same category in the sense that they are big guys (NBA needs em) that need a lot of work to make a serious impact and I have questions on whether they'll ever get over that hump.
    Naa, Roy has that. You don't improve as much as he has unless you have a desire to be a good bball player. When he came to Gtown he was very raw. He was basically that big guy you see on the end of the bench and say "Why isn't he playing".

    Will he ever be a great NBA Center, naa but he'll be a double figure scorer and close to double digit rebounder a game with a couple of blocks to boot.

    I never liked Thabeet's game. Defensively you could tell he wouldnt be able to get away with the same bad habits in the league as he did at UCONN. He did improve a lot at UCONN though and I saw more fire in his play his junior year. Like ehh said, he's just not ready for the pace of the NBA game.
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    • GSW
      Simnation
      • Feb 2003
      • 8041

      #17
      Re: Hasheem Thabeet

      Originally posted by sportyguyfl31
      Fellow UCONN alum here


      The thing that he HAS to grow out of, is this timidness.

      in college, you could bully him all over the place.

      I think a lot of this is just inexperience with the game, and not really knowing how to assert himself.

      He's got the dreaded measurables, and raw athleticism.
      He's coordinated, has good hands. He's never been stiff or oafish.

      its going to be a matter of competitve spirit with him.

      I'm not sure how much he wants it.
      Since when do hands made out of steel wool classify as "good"
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      • Greatlookinhair
        Banned
        • Dec 2009
        • 55

        #18
        Re: Hasheem Thabeet

        You never knew about the guy? Do you um... watch college basketball by any chance?
        No. Just watch pro's.

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        • wwharton
          *ll St*r
          • Aug 2002
          • 26949

          #19
          Re: Hasheem Thabeet

          Originally posted by kgx2thez
          Naa, Roy has that. You don't improve as much as he has unless you have a desire to be a good bball player. When he came to Gtown he was very raw. He was basically that big guy you see on the end of the bench and say "Why isn't he playing".

          Will he ever be a great NBA Center, naa but he'll be a double figure scorer and close to double digit rebounder a game with a couple of blocks to boot.

          I never liked Thabeet's game. Defensively you could tell he wouldnt be able to get away with the same bad habits in the league as he did at UCONN. He did improve a lot at UCONN though and I saw more fire in his play his junior year. Like ehh said, he's just not ready for the pace of the NBA game.
          I understand what you're saying and I agree to a point... that point is just below becoming a good NBA player for me. Nowadays, especially, the type of height these two have make it easier to excel in some way on the college level. I did watch Hibbert improve (I'm in the Gtown area but really a Terps fan) but I never saw one time when I could see him being dominant. Even defensively I thought he should've been better by the time he left school. I could be wrong, I haven't seen him much in the pros so far. I feel the same about Thabeet but I think you agree with me in terms of him (I don't know if he'll ever be ready for the NBA pace). I could see Thabeet being good in the Chandler role on a team with Chris Paul. I don't consider that a success.

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          • ehh
            Hall Of Fame
            • Mar 2003
            • 28962

            #20
            Re: Hasheem Thabeet

            Thabeet has poor hands but he's definitely not a stiff.
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            • JBH3
              Marvel's Finest
              • Jan 2007
              • 13506

              #21
              Re: Hasheem Thabeet

              Actually drafting Thabeet proved to be a decisive strategy in elevating the play of Marc Gasol. So it cost them a first round pick in a big-man absent draft to find their center of the future.

              Memphis wasn't going to go after Flynn, Jennings, Harden, Evans, or Curry w/ Conley/Mayo/Gay manning the 1-3. In steps a #2 pick, Gasol feels the need to rise to the occasion, and viola 15 and 10 w/ a block or two a game.

              ...and they could still pass Thabeet onto someone else hoping they bankroll on his perceived potential and in return get a vet who can elevate their bench production.
              Originally posted by Edmund Burke
              All that is needed for the triumph of evil, is for good men to do nothing.

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              • ehh
                Hall Of Fame
                • Mar 2003
                • 28962

                #22
                Re: Hasheem Thabeet

                Originally posted by JBH3
                ...and they could still pass Thabeet onto someone else hoping they bankroll on his perceived potential and in return get a vet who can elevate their bench production.
                I can't imagine any team doing that when they could just wait for him to hit the FA market in a few years. No need to give up players or picks to get a guy like Thabeet at this point in his career.
                "You make your name in the regular season, and your fame in the postseason." - Clyde Frazier

                "Beware of geeks bearing formulas." - Warren Buffet

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                • JBH3
                  Marvel's Finest
                  • Jan 2007
                  • 13506

                  #23
                  Re: Hasheem Thabeet

                  Originally posted by ehh
                  I can't imagine any team doing that when they could just wait for him to hit the FA market in a few years. No need to give up players or picks to get a guy like Thabeet at this point in his career.
                  Sure there are. There are plenty of teams in the East without a center, without a chance of winning anything significant, and without an already drafted project of their own.

                  Philly: (Speights is a PF only playing at the C becaus of Sammy's lack of production).

                  Detroit: No longterm plan at center on the roster.

                  Charlotte: No center under contract past this season, and Alexis Ajinca is in the D-League.

                  Miami: O'neal will be gone, D-Wade may even leave, they could be in full-on rebuilding mode. Why not start w/ giving Thabeet a whirl?

                  Toronto: Same situation as Miami.

                  New York: If they can't land a premiere FA they'll be right back where they are with or without David Lee playing out of position.

                  ...and possibly Indiana if Hibbert isn't the answer.
                  Originally posted by Edmund Burke
                  All that is needed for the triumph of evil, is for good men to do nothing.

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                  • ehh
                    Hall Of Fame
                    • Mar 2003
                    • 28962

                    #24
                    Re: Hasheem Thabeet

                    Originally posted by JBH3
                    Sure there are. There are plenty of teams in the East without a center, without a chance of winning anything significant, and without an already drafted project of their own.

                    Philly: (Speights is a PF only playing at the C becaus of Sammy's lack of production).

                    Detroit: No longterm plan at center on the roster.

                    Charlotte: No center under contract past this season, and Alexis Ajinca is in the D-League.

                    Miami: O'neal will be gone, D-Wade may even leave, they could be in full-on rebuilding mode. Why not start w/ giving Thabeet a whirl?

                    Toronto: Same situation as Miami.

                    New York: If they can't land a premiere FA they'll be right back where they are with or without David Lee playing out of position.

                    ...and possibly Indiana if Hibbert isn't the answer.
                    Right I understand those teams' situations but what would Memphis' asking price be and what would those teams be willing to give up to get Thabeet? That was my point, I think Memphis' asking price would be too high. It would make more sense to pursue Thabeet as a free agent if Memphis doesn't extend his rookie contract because he's not going to be a polished pro at that point in time.
                    "You make your name in the regular season, and your fame in the postseason." - Clyde Frazier

                    "Beware of geeks bearing formulas." - Warren Buffet

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                    • JBH3
                      Marvel's Finest
                      • Jan 2007
                      • 13506

                      #25
                      Re: Hasheem Thabeet

                      Originally posted by ehh
                      Right I understand those teams' situations but what would Memphis' asking price be and what would those teams be willing to give up to get Thabeet? That was my point, I think Memphis' asking price would be too high. It would make more sense to pursue Thabeet as a free agent if Memphis doesn't extend his rookie contract because he's not going to be a polished pro at that point in time.
                      So you're saying two guaranteed years and perhaps 2 team options later he won't be a polished pro?

                      I think Memphis might understand that after working w/ Thabeet in practice and in camps, and what have you that they'll come to a realization that the only way this guy gets the significant amount of minutes needed to further develop he can't be blocked by Marc Gasol.

                      At that crossroads if Gasol is playing similar to the way he is now or better than they move him. Other teams will realize this too, and rather than let him walk they'd want to get something in return...but a team (hypothetically) isn't going to overpay so I think they could get a serviceable veteran player in exchange for someone who they can't get minutes for...yea?
                      Originally posted by Edmund Burke
                      All that is needed for the triumph of evil, is for good men to do nothing.

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                      • ehh
                        Hall Of Fame
                        • Mar 2003
                        • 28962

                        #26
                        Re: Hasheem Thabeet

                        Originally posted by JBH3
                        So you're saying two guaranteed years and perhaps 2 team options later he won't be a polished pro?
                        As someone who watched every single one of his games at UConn, yes. that's exactly what I'm saying.

                        He has a looooooooong way to go.
                        "You make your name in the regular season, and your fame in the postseason." - Clyde Frazier

                        "Beware of geeks bearing formulas." - Warren Buffet

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                        • wwharton
                          *ll St*r
                          • Aug 2002
                          • 26949

                          #27
                          Re: Hasheem Thabeet

                          Originally posted by JBH3
                          So you're saying two guaranteed years and perhaps 2 team options later he won't be a polished pro?

                          I think Memphis might understand that after working w/ Thabeet in practice and in camps, and what have you that they'll come to a realization that the only way this guy gets the significant amount of minutes needed to further develop he can't be blocked by Marc Gasol.

                          At that crossroads if Gasol is playing similar to the way he is now or better than they move him. Other teams will realize this too, and rather than let him walk they'd want to get something in return...but a team (hypothetically) isn't going to overpay so I think they could get a serviceable veteran player in exchange for someone who they can't get minutes for...yea?
                          I thought the same about Kwame Brown and the Lakers, of all organizations, traded for him. Speaking of Brown, you can add the Wiz to that list above (if McGehee doesn't pan out... hell, maybe even if he does).

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                          • mattlanta
                            MVP
                            • Aug 2008
                            • 2384

                            #28
                            Re: Hasheem Thabeet

                            Yeah... Wizards wanted Thabeet in the draft too.

                            I just dram of him on the Hawks (only if Hasheem can reach his max potential defensively and get much better than he probably ever can offensively) to match up with Josh Smith...

                            can you say block party?

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                            • chrome381
                              Rookie
                              • Nov 2008
                              • 123

                              #29
                              Re: Hasheem Thabeet

                              Unless he and Marc G can coexist on the court in the future i don't see how he will fit in long term. But with the way Gasol's playing for Memphis right now it seems like hes definitely their main Big man going forward.
                              Last edited by chrome381; 12-02-2009, 07:06 PM.

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                              • GSW
                                Simnation
                                • Feb 2003
                                • 8041

                                #30
                                Re: Hasheem Thabeet

                                Marc could be the offensive option at PF..Thabeet could be the Defensive Anchor...

                                If only his lateral Quickness was better....
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