Is Brandon Roy a top 10 player in the League?

[Jukeman]

Re: Is Brandon Roy a top 10 player in the League?

So by that logic, since Monta Ellis is 6th in PPG, he is the 6th best player in the league.

There is NO way Monta Ellis is a Top 10 player.

LoL thats not what Monta think

http://realgm.com/src_wiretap_archives/65601/20100327/monta_puts_himself_next_to_kobe_lebron/

His list wins the gold!

[ProfessaPackMan]

Re: Is Brandon Roy a top 10 player in the League?

Durant is my man 100 grand but he has no business being over Dirk either. I still can't believe someone would even put Roy over Dirk SMH.

[Bornindamecca]

Re: Is Brandon Roy a top 10 player in the League?

Durant is my man 100 grand but he has no business being over Dirk either. I still can't believe someone would even put Roy over Dirk SMH.

You mind explaining that? I'm not looking to argue, I'm just curious where you think Durant is significantly inferior to Dirk.

[ex carrabba fan]

Re: Is Brandon Roy a top 10 player in the League?

Brandon Roy is much closer to JJ than Wade.

Wade is much closer to LBJ/Kobe than Roy.

Roy and JJ are superstars, but Wade/LBJ/Kobe are the cream of the crop.

Top 25

LBJ
Wade
Kobe

Melo
Durant
Dirk
CP3
Williams
Howard
Bosh

Roy
Joe Johnson
Amare
Duncan
Nash
Billups

Rose
Rondo
Granger
Boozer
Monta
Iggy
PP
Gay
Al Jefferson

[Bornindamecca]

Re: Is Brandon Roy a top 10 player in the League?

Good post, Ex.

[Amoo316]

Re: Is Brandon Roy a top 10 player in the League?

Brandon Roy is much closer to JJ than Wade.

Wade is much closer to LBJ/Kobe than Roy.

Roy and JJ are superstars, but Wade/LBJ/Kobe are the cream of the crop.

Top 25

LBJ
Wade
Kobe

Melo
Durant
Dirk
CP3
Williams
Howard
Bosh

Roy
Joe Johnson
Amare
Duncan
Nash
Billups

Rose
Rondo
Granger
Boozer
Monta
Iggy
PP
Gay
Al Jefferson

If anything the discussion should be why the third guard ever to win back to back MVPs is considered a Third Tier player. Oh wait, it's because he doesn't do flashy dunks and consistently feeds his teammates instead of "getting his".

Roy is a great player, but he shouldn't be ranked ahead of Wade in anybody's book. Until Roy can step on an All-Star court and take over the game, ala Wade this past year, he doesn't belong in the discussion. I also have no idea how Wade in one season goes from clearly being the #3 player in the league to forgotten. I kept reading this thread wondering why everybody has suddenly allowed Wade to drop down their lists simply because his team is terrible.

[Moses Shuttlesworth]

Re: Is Brandon Roy a top 10 player in the League?

Explain with actual facts instead of saying it. Is it the simple fact that Wade does 360's and Roy doesn't? Explain.

The "LOL"' is getting lame dude. Let me guess you think PP is the greatest basketball player ever huh?

LOL

If you want me to find the thirty posts I have bashing Pierce, I'll go right ahead. Someone a lil sensitive?

[Robens]

Re: Is Brandon Roy a top 10 player in the League?

Roy is the top 20 player in the NBA.

[SpacemanSpiff]

Re: Is Brandon Roy a top 10 player in the League?

If anything the discussion should be why the third guard ever to win back to back MVPs is considered a Third Tier player. Oh wait, it's because he doesn't do flashy dunks and consistently feeds his teammates instead of "getting his".

Roy is a great player, but he shouldn't be ranked ahead of Wade in anybody's book. Until Roy can step on an All-Star court and take over the game, ala Wade this past year, he doesn't belong in the discussion. I also have no idea how Wade in one season goes from clearly being the #3 player in the league to forgotten. I kept reading this thread wondering why everybody has suddenly allowed Wade to drop down their lists simply because his team is terrible.

In the offensive aspect of the game alone, I would have Steve Nash in the top 5. His impact on that side of the ball is incredible whether he's setting guys up or efficiently getting points when his team needs it. But his defense leaves a lot to be desired. If he were even league-average defensively, I'd keep him in the top 10 but unfortunately, he gets victimized by too many opposing point guards to be legitimately top 10. Love his game though.

The order is fluid, it shifts depending on the year/month but these are probably the ten best players in the NBA.
LeBron
Kobe
Wade
Carmelo
Dirk Nowitzki
Durant
Dwight Howard
CP3
Deron Williams
Chris Bosh

[SpacemanSpiff]

Re: Is Brandon Roy a top 10 player in the League?

Brandon Roy:

PPG: 22.1
RPG: 4.5
APG: 4.7
FG%: 0.471
FT%: 0.781
3P%: 0.340

Dwayne Wade:
PPG: 26.3
RPG: 4.8
APG: 6.7
FG%: 0.469
FT%: 0.758
3P%: 0.295

Roy: played 266/303 games (87%)
Wade: played 463/561 games (82%)

The Dirk is all on opinion due to the fact they play near opposite positions. Bottom line the people see Wade in commercials. That's why Wade wins. Do not take it personal people...It's all based on opinion.

Brandon Roy:

PPG: 22.1
RPG: 4.5
APG: 4.7
FG%: 0.471
FT%: 0.781
3P%: 0.340

Joe Johnson:
PPG: 21.3
RPG: 4.7
APG: 4.8
FG%: 0.455
FT%: 0.827
3P%: 0.362

Roy: played 266/303 games (87%)
Johnson: played 693/726 games (95%)

I'm not saying Joe Johnson is better than Roy, but by using your statistical logic, maybe he is?

[Amoo316]

Re: Is Brandon Roy a top 10 player in the League?

In the offensive aspect of the game alone, I would have Steve Nash in the top 5. His impact on that side of the ball is incredible whether he's setting guys up or efficiently getting points when his team needs it. But his defense leaves a lot to be desired. If he were even league-average defensively, I'd keep him in the top 10 but unfortunately, he gets victimized by too many opposing point guards to be legitimately top 10. Love his game though.

The order is fluid, it shifts depending on the year/month but these are probably the ten best players in the NBA.
LeBron
Kobe
Wade
Carmelo
Dirk Nowitzki
Durant
Dwight Howard
CP3
Deron Williams
Chris Bosh

I agree pretty much with everything you said here. The only thing I would debate would be Bosh. We know he is a freak athletically, but so is Amare. If health wasn't an issue I would have a hard time putting Bosh over Amare, but I think I'm on an island with that one and not worth the debate because I don't think I could pull stats or examples to back it up. All that said you could probably back up an argument to rank Gasol ahead of both of them.

[RoyalKingz17]

Re: Is Brandon Roy a top 10 player in the League?

He's not a top 10 player. He will be there in a few years. I guarantee that.

[Vince]

Re: Is Brandon Roy a top 10 player in the League?

Bosh doesn't defend well enough and is a turnover machine...Not a great passer..Top 15 yes, but not top 10.

[KG]

Re: Is Brandon Roy a top 10 player in the League?

I agree pretty much with everything you said here. The only thing I would debate would be Bosh. We know he is a freak athletically, but so is Amare. If health wasn't an issue I would have a hard time putting Bosh over Amare, but I think I'm on an island with that one and not worth the debate because I don't think I could pull stats or examples to back it up. All that said you could probably back up an argument to rank Gasol ahead of both of them.

Bosh doesn't defend well enough and is a turnover machine...Not a great passer..Top 15 yes, but not top 10.

Yeah, and he's not a freak athletically. Very skilled for his size but he doesn't dominate or solely rely on his athleticism.

[dossier]

Re: Is Brandon Roy a top 10 player in the League?

I agree pretty much with everything you said here. The only thing I would debate would be Bosh. We know he is a freak athletically, but so is Amare. If health wasn't an issue I would have a hard time putting Bosh over Amare, but I think I'm on an island with that one and not worth the debate because I don't think I could pull stats or examples to back it up. All that said you could probably back up an argument to rank Gasol ahead of both of them.

He is putting up massive numbers against everybody though