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Re: The Carmelo Anthony Saga
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Sam Smith dropping knowledge. Exactly what I'm saying about giving up Noah for Anthony. You need size to win a championship and you don't give that up for scoring. Not in this NBA, not with those pieces laying in the wings for you. You wouldn't even be able to keep Taj in the deal in the Noah for Melo trade so you're just screwed in size. I want Melo, but not at the expense of Noah.). They might not win the championship this year with the frontcourt they have, but that can change in later years.
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The Bulls need scoring. Melo can score. Do the damn thang.Redskins, Lakers, Orioles, UNC Basketball , and ND Football
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Sam Smith dropping knowledge. Exactly what I'm saying about giving up Noah for Anthony. You need size to win a championship and you don't give that up for scoring. Not in this NBA, not with those pieces laying in the wings for you. You wouldn't even be able to keep Taj in the deal in the Noah for Melo trade so you're just screwed in size. I want Melo, but not at the expense of Noah.I have more respect for a man who let's me know where he stands, even if he's wrong. Than the one who comes up like an angel and is nothing but a devil. - Malcolm XComment
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Man fans in Chicago seem to fall in love with decent players. We're talking about Carmelo Anthony here and people don't want to trade Noah? This reminds me of the whole we can't part with Deng for Kobe. Funny stuff."You got it man. I don't watch hockey." SidVish"I thought LeBron James was just going to be another addition to help me score."
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We have a TEAM. That's what wins championships. Who did the Lakers give up to get Pau, Kwame Brown, Aaron McKie? You didn't see them trading Andrew Bynum to get Pau. The best GMs on the best teams upgrade positions without sacrificing their current talent.
I think its funny that every non-Bull fan believes its a great idea.Originally posted by My Wife"The Celtics only won because they have a magical elf playing for their team...."Comment
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People didn't want Kobe because he we trying to be Jordan and had a crybaby problem.
We have a TEAM. That's what wins championships. Who did the Lakers give up to get Pau, Kwame Brown, Aaron McKie? You didn't see them trading Andrew Bynum to get Pau. The best GMs on the best teams upgrade positions without sacrificing their current talent.
I think its funny that every non-Bull fan believes its a great idea.
And yes, teams win championships. BUT it's the teams with more talent that get's it done.I have more respect for a man who let's me know where he stands, even if he's wrong. Than the one who comes up like an angel and is nothing but a devil. - Malcolm XComment
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Uh I am a Bulls fan. So the bulls wouldn't be a team if they had melo instead of Noah ? I don't understand that. Those pau trades don't happen often. Usually you have to give up talent in order to get talent."You got it man. I don't watch hockey." SidVish"I thought LeBron James was just going to be another addition to help me score."
Ricky Davis"The difference between stupidity and genius is that genius has its limits." Albert EinsteinComment
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People didn't want Kobe because he we trying to be Jordan and had a crybaby problem.
We have a TEAM. That's what wins championships. Who did the Lakers give up to get Pau, Kwame Brown, Aaron McKie? You didn't see them trading Andrew Bynum to get Pau. The best GMs on the best teams upgrade positions without sacrificing their current talent.
I think its funny that every non-Bull fan believes its a great idea.
You aren't winning jack squat diddly with what you have now. In all likelihood you won't be able to get much more talent in the coming years with locking in Rose/Noah and already having a maxed out Boozer and a disgustingly overpaid Deng.
Have fun always being somewhat close but no cigar.
at some of you Chicago fans
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You need more than size to win, you need talent. And talent is much harder to come by than size. Going back to my argument of Luc Longely being the starting center of the Bulls second three-peat. He was there because of his 7'2" frame. BUT you could have put about 20 different guys at that time into his role and they still won three titles with him at the center. You'll be waiting for the next 30 years to find someone to replace Jordan and Pippen, the real reasons why they won 6 championships.
Cartwright, Longley, etc weren't stiffs or bums - they filled their role of size, defending (which pretty much meant clogging the paint in their cases) and rebounding. They were also smart big men which is definitely a rarity these days. Those guys are better than anything Chicago has on the roster right now in terms of rebounding/interior defense IF Noah is shipped out.
In the NBA in this day and age those type of bigs are few and far between and are def not easy to come across. You can't go get 20 guys like them, not a chance. You couldn't 15-20 years ago either. You can't just go find 7'2 guys who give you 10 points, 5 boards and 3 dimes, good defense and no headaches. If you could then teams like the Bulls and Knicks would be in much better positions. People are paying $10m/yr for Brendan Haywood for Christ's sake.
At this point in time, neither talent nor size are easy to come by in the NBA but both are mandatory to win a championship.
Just like I want the Knicks to stay put and not try to trade for Melo, I think that's in Chicago's best interest as well.Last edited by ehh; 09-10-2010, 09:58 AM."You make your name in the regular season, and your fame in the postseason." - Clyde Frazier
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Yet the Bulls never won anything with MJ until the Cartwright trade when they actually got a real center who could fill the role Chicago desperately needed.
Cartwright, Longley, etc weren't stiffs or bums - they filled their role of size, defending (which pretty much meant clogging the paint in their cases) and rebounding. They were also smart big men which is definitely a rarity these days. Those guys are better than anything Chicago has on the roster right now in terms of rebounding/interior defense IF Noah is shipped out.
In the NBA in this day and age those type of bigs are few and far between and are def not easy to come across. You can't go get 20 guys like them, not a chance. You can't just go find 7'2 guys who give you 10 points, 5 boards and 3 dimes, good defense and no headaches. If you could then teams like the Bulls and Knicks would be in much better positions. People are paying $10m/yr for Brendan Haywood for Christ's sake.
At this point in time, neither talent nor size are easy to come by in the NBA but both are mandatory to win a championship.
Just like I want the Knicks to stay put and not try to trade for Melo, I think that's in Chicago's best interest as well.
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Missing the overall point completely.
As far as I know Chicago doesn't have an MJ currently.
What they have is a team who will always be right there but not quite a title team. When you look at their cap situation, unless they can trade Deng only for a superior wing scorer, they won't be able to maneuver much.
You lock in Rose/Noah to big deals and factor in Deng and a maxed Boozer, you won't be able to do much to add anyone.
Now if you give up Noah/Deng for Melo, you can extend Rose and have a Melo/Boozer then can add a relatively cheap big man in the mold of a Cartwright or Longley etc to put you over the top.Comment
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Please.
You aren't winning jack squat diddly with what you have now. In all likelihood you won't be able to get much more talent in the coming years with locking in Rose/Noah and already having a maxed out Boozer and a disgustingly overpaid Deng.
Have fun always being somewhat close but no cigar.
at some of you Chicago fans
Last edited by elprez98; 09-10-2010, 10:07 AM.Originally posted by My Wife"The Celtics only won because they have a magical elf playing for their team...."Comment
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@ ex, not sure if you were talking to me but I was only responding to Dice and that tangent."You make your name in the regular season, and your fame in the postseason." - Clyde Frazier
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The second part of your statement is definitely not fact.
Just refer to my previous post. With Melo/Rose/Boozer you can still afford to get you another big man to get you over the hump besides Taj Gibson who is developing into a nice PF himself.Comment
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