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  • ProfessaPackMan
    Bamma
    • Mar 2008
    • 63852

    #1216
    Re: The Carmelo Anthony (NY or Bust?) Thread

    Everyone knew they weren't going to get fair value for him from the beginning though. But everyone knew that the Nets had the BEST offer for him all along. Denver could take that offer, not even giving a **** if he signs an extension with the Nets because by then it would be out of their hands since they got what they wanted for him.

    The only time Melo would have FULL leverage in this is if he's not traded and by that point, Denver has just committed Franchise Suicide. But as of now, Denver's FO most certainly has the power in this.
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    • ProfessaPackMan
      Bamma
      • Mar 2008
      • 63852

      #1217
      Re: The Carmelo Anthony (NY or Bust?) Thread

      Originally posted by Kashanova
      he has leverage because it's clear no team wants him as a rental only and he's only going to sign an extension with the knicks or just sign outright this summer...
      Teams have already admitted that they would take that risk.

      Hint: it's the sorry *** team playing in Newark with the NBA Dumb Owner.
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      • BATMON
        Banned
        • Oct 2010
        • 1445

        #1218
        Re: The Carmelo Anthony (NY or Bust?) Thread

        Close contenders would have to trade some their talent to acquire Melo.

        Melo loses and whatever half-gutted team loses as well.

        It would have to be a 6th - 8th seed team that is looking to gamble/build by acquiring Melo.

        Chicago w/out Noah, draft picks, and a good role player isnt a win contender IMO.

        Name a non-contending team that becomes a contender w/ Melo. The Knicks are the only on the cusp team i can come up w/.

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        • ex carrabba fan
          I'll thank him for you
          • Oct 2004
          • 32744

          #1219
          Re: The Carmelo Anthony (NY or Bust?) Thread

          Originally posted by ProfessaPackMan
          Everyone knew they weren't going to get fair value for him from the beginning though. But everyone knew that the Nets had the BEST offer for him all along. Denver could take that offer, not even giving a **** if he signs an extension with the Nets because by then it would be out of their hands since they got what they wanted for him.

          The only time Melo would have FULL leverage in this is if he's not traded and by that point, Denver has just committed Franchise Suicide. But as of now, Denver's FO most certainly has the power in this.
          Still don't agree with a word you said here.

          Just because there are these "reports" saying that NJ would take him as a rental doesn't mean it's true by any means. And also which other teams were "reported" into having him as a rental besides NJ?

          I just don't buy that. I don't think Melo wants to go to Brooklyn, when he could go to NY, let alone to a team that wouldn't be nearly as good as NY with Melo.

          Also cool it with the franchise suicide talk. They are nowhere near what Cleveland was. They still have a ton of assets they can trade and have young talent to boot.

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          • da ThRONe
            Fire LesS Miles ASAP!
            • Mar 2009
            • 8528

            #1220
            Re: The Carmelo Anthony (NY or Bust?) Thread

            Originally posted by jeebs9
            ^^ Bingo ^^

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            Sorry to intefer with your post my man.
            You looking at the Chair MAN!

            Number may not tell the whole story ,but they never lie either.

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            • jeebs9
              Fear is the Unknown
              • Oct 2008
              • 47568

              #1221
              Re: The Carmelo Anthony (NY or Bust?) Thread

              So basically we can say Melo is a New York Knick already. No matter what happens.
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              • RoyalBoyle78
                Aka."Footballforever"
                • May 2003
                • 23918

                #1222
                Re: The Carmelo Anthony (NY or Bust?) Thread

                Originally posted by ex carrabba fan
                Still don't agree with a word you said here.

                Just because there are these "reports" saying that NJ would take him as a rental doesn't mean it's true by any means. And also which other teams were "reported" into having him as a rental besides NJ?

                I just don't buy that. I don't think Melo wants to go to Brooklyn, when he could go to NY, let alone to a team that wouldn't be nearly as good as NY with Melo.

                Also cool it with the franchise suicide talk. They are nowhere near what Cleveland was. They still have a ton of assets they can trade and have young talent to boot.
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                • King_B_Mack
                  All Star
                  • Jan 2009
                  • 24450

                  #1223
                  Re: The Carmelo Anthony (NY or Bust?) Thread

                  Originally posted by ex carrabba fan
                  I think he would re-sign there too, but Chicago didn't want to part with Noah. At least that's what I feel, and these "reports" said the same thing.
                  I'm guessing that's the case too, however that said, Bulls are still willing to deal Deng, Gibson, Asik, Johnson and some picks for Melo. Is that a good deal? Of course it's not really a good deal, but you can get Melo a trade to a team that he would accept and get something for him or you can continue trying to milk the best offer out there to a place he clearly doesn't want to go and end up getting nothing. I'm assuming you wouldn't get the luxury that Cleveland did of at least working out a sign and trade to get the trade exemption at the end, right? Going into a new CBA it probably won't exist?

                  Originally posted by ex carrabba fan
                  Still don't agree with a word you said here.

                  Just because there are these "reports" saying that NJ would take him as a rental doesn't mean it's true by any means. And also which other teams were "reported" into having him as a rental besides NJ?

                  I just don't buy that. I don't think Melo wants to go to Brooklyn, when he could go to NY, let alone to a team that wouldn't be nearly as good as NY with Melo.

                  Also cool it with the franchise suicide talk. They are nowhere near what Cleveland was. They still have a ton of assets they can trade and have young talent to boot.
                  Wait, since when is Brooklyn like a cross country trip to Manhattan? It's like a 14 mile drive seperating the two I believe, if Melo plays for the Nets in Brooklyn he can easily still stay in Midtown Manhattan somewhere. Hell how many of the Knicks players actually stay in Manhattan right now anyway?

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                  • ex carrabba fan
                    I'll thank him for you
                    • Oct 2004
                    • 32744

                    #1224
                    Re: The Carmelo Anthony (NY or Bust?) Thread

                    Originally posted by King_B_Mack
                    I'm guessing that's the case too, however that said, Bulls are still willing to deal Deng, Gibson, Asik, Johnson and some picks for Melo. Is that a good deal? Of course it's not really a good deal, but you can get Melo a trade to a team that he would accept and get something for him or you can continue trying to milk the best offer out there to a place he clearly doesn't want to go and end up getting nothing. I'm assuming you wouldn't get the luxury that Cleveland did of at least working out a sign and trade to get the trade exemption at the end, right? Going into a new CBA it probably won't exist?



                    Wait, since when is Brooklyn like a cross country trip to Manhattan? It's like a 14 mile drive seperating the two I believe, if Melo plays for the Nets in Brooklyn he can easily still stay in Midtown Manhattan somewhere. Hell how many of the Knicks players actually stay in Manhattan right now anyway?
                    Come on though, it's the Knicks v the Nets [not just talking about Brooklyn vs. NYC as cities]

                    Let's be real.

                    It's Madison Square Garden. Enough said.

                    Oh and the Knicks with Melo is a title contending team. Originally I did not think so.

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                    • Giants4Natic
                      Banned
                      • Oct 2010
                      • 2475

                      #1225
                      Re: The Carmelo Anthony (NY or Bust?) Thread

                      The Nets can play their games in the same bed that Melo was born in down in BK. It is not about BK which Prokorov thinks it is all he has to throw at Melo.

                      Melo wants to play for the Knicks and only the Knicks. If it was to the Nets, the deal would have been done a long time ago. The Nuggest are playing dumb right now with the Nets because they know that Melo will not sign with the Nets.

                      No chance in hell that the Nets will trade for a rental. Yea melo can play in BK and be in NY. But he wants to play in NY and play for the Knicks.

                      A few weeks ago. he said the Nets are the clippers of the east.

                      Saying they would never take over the Lakers. Same as the Nets regardless if they played next to the Garden. They will never be a better franchise with the history and fan base of the Knicks

                      When the Nets were in the finals, they never sold out. The Knicks have sucked for 10 years and still sold out.

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                      • ProfessaPackMan
                        Bamma
                        • Mar 2008
                        • 63852

                        #1226
                        Re: The Carmelo Anthony (NY or Bust?) Thread

                        Originally posted by ex carrabba fan
                        Still don't agree with a word you said here.

                        Just because there are these "reports" saying that NJ would take him as a rental doesn't mean it's true by any means. And also which other teams were "reported" into having him as a rental besides NJ?

                        I just don't buy that. I don't think Melo wants to go to Brooklyn, when he could go to NY, let alone to a team that wouldn't be nearly as good as NY with Melo.

                        Also cool it with the franchise suicide talk. They are nowhere near what Cleveland was. They still have a ton of assets they can trade and have young talent to boot.
                        You don't gotta agree or believe a word I'm saying(not that they're mine anyway but they're coming from somewhere obviously). Don't give a **** if you do or not.

                        I'm just going by what I have seen from this Franchise ever since this mess has started and going by that, it wouldn't surprise me in the least bit to this franchise trade him just for a rental but that also tells you how desparate The Russian is to get a "name" in Brooklyn in 2012.

                        Not saying my word is the gospel or truth or whatever, but it definitely makes/or has some sense based on everything we know up to this point.

                        Either way, what we know by now and after what we witnessed this summer with the "sign and trades" done by Miami/Cleveland/Toronto, is that Denver is not going to just let him walk for nothing. From a basketball standpoint, it would make NO sense for them to get burned like Cleveland and Toronto did. And if you think it does, pass me some of that California **** you smokin' over here my man LOL.
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                        • ex carrabba fan
                          I'll thank him for you
                          • Oct 2004
                          • 32744

                          #1227
                          Re: The Carmelo Anthony (NY or Bust?) Thread

                          As I said before, their franchise will be nowhere near effected by Melo's departure compared to Cleveland or Toronto.

                          Completely different scenarios.

                          Having Derrick Favors and/or Devin Harris and a few picks isn't really going to effect them one way or the other. They still have like 7 or 8 assets.
                          Originally posted by Giants4Natic
                          The Nets can play their games in the same bed that Melo was born in down in BK. It is not about BK which Prokorov thinks it is all he has to throw at Melo.

                          Melo wants to play for the Knicks and only the Knicks. If it was to the Nets, the deal would have been done a long time ago. The Nuggest are playing dumb right now with the Nets because they know that Melo will not sign with the Nets.

                          No chance in hell that the Nets will trade for a rental. Yea melo can play in BK and be in NY. But he wants to play in NY and play for the Knicks.

                          A few weeks ago. he said the Nets are the clippers of the east.

                          Saying they would never take over the Lakers. Same as the Nets regardless if they played next to the Garden. They will never be a better franchise with the history and fan base of the Knicks

                          When the Nets were in the finals, they never sold out. The Knicks have sucked for 10 years and still sold out.
                          Agree with like 80% of your post.

                          Not sure if he ever said Nets are Clippers East

                          Other than that, yep I think you're correct.
                          Last edited by ex carrabba fan; 01-12-2011, 03:33 PM.

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                          • King_B_Mack
                            All Star
                            • Jan 2009
                            • 24450

                            #1228
                            Re: The Carmelo Anthony (NY or Bust?) Thread

                            Originally posted by ex carrabba fan
                            Come on though, it's the Knicks v the Nets [not just talking about Brooklyn vs. NYC as cities]

                            Let's be real.

                            It's Madison Square Garden. Enough said.

                            Oh and the Knicks with Melo is a title contending team. Originally I did not think so.
                            Nevermind, I thought you were talking strictly as in living arrangements. No disagreements with that. Though I will say this and I said the same thing when people were pimping New York for LeBron. Playing every night in Madison Square Garden does not allow for the type of special performances and Sportscenter whoring you can get when you show up there once or twice a year and go off like Michael used to do, LeBron, Kobe. It's better to visit MSG a few times a year or once a year than play there on a nightly basis.
                            Last edited by King_B_Mack; 01-12-2011, 03:34 PM.

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                            • ProfessaPackMan
                              Bamma
                              • Mar 2008
                              • 63852

                              #1229
                              Re: The Carmelo Anthony (NY or Bust?) Thread

                              I'm sorry but ya'll are giving the Nets FO TOO much credit if you think they wouldn't trade him for a rental LOL.

                              EDIT: And just for the record, I have stated numerous times that I don't think he is coming here and have said plenty of times all along that he would end up a Knick. So before folks go and start saying, I'm being a homer or whatever, go back and read all my posts in here.
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                              • ex carrabba fan
                                I'll thank him for you
                                • Oct 2004
                                • 32744

                                #1230
                                Re: The Carmelo Anthony (NY or Bust?) Thread

                                Originally posted by King_B_Mack
                                Playing every night in Madison Square Garden does not allow for the type of special performances and Sportscenter whoring you can get when you show up there once or twice a year and go off like Michael used to do, LeBron, Kobe. It's better to visit MSG a few times a year or once a year than play there on a nightly basis.
                                I somewhat agree with you on your last statement.

                                BUT

                                Feeling the energy that the Knicks have brought this season is a widely known phenomenon.

                                I mean you can't watch a "big" game and tell me you're not pumped.

                                Before the season started I would have definitely been on board with you, but after seeing how the fans have embraced the team... It's difficult to tell me that Melo would not see this as well and do all he could to come to NY. It would be an event every regular season game no matter who they were playing.

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