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  • ex carrabba fan
    I'll thank him for you
    • Oct 2004
    • 32744

    #1186
    Re: The Carmelo Anthony (NY or Bust?) Thread

    Originally posted by da ThRONe
    From reports earlier Melo was open to signing with more teams. Plus some teams may have signed him for a year if they didnt have to give up too much. Now half way through the year no team will trade for Melo unless he is willing to sign. Denver FO let this drag out and now they are hoping Melo signs with the Nets or bust.
    Huh?

    Which teams were these?

    And those reports were just reports, I doubt they had much fact in them.

    This is clearly a case of Carmelo controlling his future. I have no clue as to how you could pin this on Denver's front office.

    As I said, they offered him a max extension as soon as they were allowed to. They have always surrounded him with adequate talent, and they have a great fanbase.

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    • da ThRONe
      Fire LesS Miles ASAP!
      • Mar 2009
      • 8528

      #1187
      Re: The Carmelo Anthony (NY or Bust?) Thread

      Originally posted by ex carrabba fan
      Huh?

      How does this in anyway show Denver's greed or incompetence?

      They offered Melo an extension as soon as they could, and Melo didn't sign it.

      What else did you want them to do?

      They've surrounded this guy with a ton of talent and offered him a boatload of money.
      You know he's not coming back the day he refuses to sign the extenison. After that it's time to get what you can or become Cleveland. They let this play out until now where no team is going to take a chance in signing Melo for half. And it makes more sense for Melo to just wait half-a-year to go to his top team without them having to give up anything to get him.
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      • jeebs9
        Fear is the Unknown
        • Oct 2008
        • 47568

        #1188
        Re: The Carmelo Anthony (NY or Bust?) Thread

        Originally posted by ex carrabba fan
        All along or at least by now, NY never wanted to trade for Melo. They know he's going to sign with them outright anyway, so why trade away assets.

        Melo will stay with Denver for the remainder of the season, then will sign with NY in the summer.

        NY themselves didn't even know they were going to be this "good". So they definitely don't want to tinker too much.

        /thread
        I think that's where this thing is headed.
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        • jeebs9
          Fear is the Unknown
          • Oct 2008
          • 47568

          #1189
          Re: The Carmelo Anthony (NY or Bust?) Thread

          Originally posted by ex carrabba fan
          Huh?

          Which teams were these?

          And those reports were just reports, I doubt they had much fact in them.

          This is clearly a case of Carmelo controlling his future. I have no clue as to how you could pin this on Denver's front office.

          As I said, they offered him a max extension as soon as they were allowed to. They have always surrounded him with adequate talent, and they have a great fanbase.
          That is the one thing that puzzles me. Why does he want to make the move so badly? Its not like Denver hasn't added any talent to the rosters.
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          • ex carrabba fan
            I'll thank him for you
            • Oct 2004
            • 32744

            #1190
            Re: The Carmelo Anthony (NY or Bust?) Thread

            Originally posted by da ThRONe
            You know he's not coming back the day he refuses to sign the extenison. After that it's time to get what you can or become Cleveland. They let this play out until now where no team is going to take a chance in signing Melo for half. And it makes more sense for Melo to just wait half-a-year to go to his top team without them having to give up anything to get him.
            Don't agree.

            With a very select few players, you don't just say "f it" and trade him away because he doesn't sign the extension. Carmelo is one of those players [along with Howard, Kobe, Bron, Wade, CP3, Williams, Rose, Durant]. What do you tell your fanbase?

            Also, as has been mentioned, Melo holds the power not Denver. They can't just trade him away to any team or else it would have been done a month or two ago.

            You cannot pin this on Denver in any scenario.

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            • Pared
              Legen - WAIT FOR IT
              • Feb 2003
              • 39337

              #1191
              Re: The Carmelo Anthony (NY or Bust?) Thread

              Originally posted by da ThRONe
              The Nuggets FO are dumb. I really do hope they get nothing for Melo now. Greed or just sheer incompetence is going to cost them.

              The longer they wait the more it makes sense for Melo to just play out the contract and go where ever he wants via free agency next year.
              LOL They're dumb? What do you expect them to not do anything?

              Hell, you don't know the entire situation. For all anyone knows, the Knicks might be offering a cup of coffee and a free donut for Melo at this point. Melo is in control of his future. That's it. End of story.
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              • da ThRONe
                Fire LesS Miles ASAP!
                • Mar 2009
                • 8528

                #1192
                Re: The Carmelo Anthony (NY or Bust?) Thread

                Originally posted by ex carrabba fan
                Don't agree.

                With a very select few players, you don't just say "f it" and trade him away because he doesn't sign the extension. Carmelo is one of those players [along with Howard, Kobe, Bron, Wade, CP3, Williams, Rose, Durant]. What do you tell your fanbase?

                Also, as has been mentioned, Melo holds the power not Denver. They can't just trade him away to any team or else it would have been done a month or two ago.

                You cannot pin this on Denver in any scenario.
                You tell your fan base we don't want to get nothing for him. You tell them we rather trade a guy who clearly doesn't want to be here. It's better than where they are now. Where the fans are upset with there superstar while he's still on the team. Only to have him play out the season and get nothing for him just like we saw this off-season with LeBron and Bosh.

                When your franchise player is this determined to leave your screwed either way. The best thing you can do is get what you can.
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                • Yeah...THAT Guy
                  Once in a Lifetime Memory
                  • Dec 2006
                  • 17294

                  #1193
                  Re: The Carmelo Anthony (NY or Bust?) Thread

                  Originally posted by da ThRONe
                  You tell your fan base we don't want to get nothing for him. You tell them we rather trade a guy who clearly doesn't want to be here. It's better than where they are now. Where the fans are upset with there superstar while he's still on the team. Only to have him play out the season and get nothing for him just like we saw this off-season with LeBron and Bosh.

                  When your franchise player is this determined to leave your screwed either way. The best thing you can do is get what you can.
                  But they can't get anything because nobody wants to rent him for one season.
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                  • ex carrabba fan
                    I'll thank him for you
                    • Oct 2004
                    • 32744

                    #1194
                    Re: The Carmelo Anthony (NY or Bust?) Thread

                    Originally posted by da ThRONe
                    You tell your fan base we don't want to get nothing for him. You tell them we rather trade a guy who clearly doesn't want to be here. It's better than where they are now. Where the fans are upset with there superstar while he's still on the team. Only to have him play out the season and get nothing for him just like we saw this off-season with LeBron and Bosh.

                    When your franchise player is this determined to leave your screwed either way. The best thing you can do is get what you can.
                    Sure, but like I said they hold no power in this situation.

                    Melo is controlling where he gets traded to. By that, teams are not offering anything near fair value at all.

                    Like I said, you don't trade certain players, no matter the circumstance. Melo is one of them.

                    And the only reason the Cleveland situation was awful was the way LeBron handled the situation. Also given the fact that LeBron is the best player in the world, of course it's going to be a different situation that 99% of others when free agency hits.

                    Toronto? Don't compare that franchise to any other team in the league. They are a cursed franchise because they're in Canada.

                    Melo signing elsewhere would be comparable to Shaq signing with Los Angeles but actually maybe a bit less. It wouldn't be the death of Denver by any means.

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                    • da ThRONe
                      Fire LesS Miles ASAP!
                      • Mar 2009
                      • 8528

                      #1195
                      Re: The Carmelo Anthony (NY or Bust?) Thread

                      Originally posted by Pared
                      LOL They're dumb? What do you expect them to not do anything?

                      Hell, you don't know the entire situation. For all anyone knows, the Knicks might be offering a cup of coffee and a free donut for Melo at this point. Melo is in control of his future. That's it. End of story.
                      What I am saying is they should have been more active in trying to move him sooner and take what they were given. I'm sure some team starting out the season felt they were a player of Melo's caliber away from contending for a title this year. I'm sure that team wouldn't have given a lot but would have given something. Which is better than nothing and that's what it appears the Nuggets are going to get.

                      Looking at it now if Cleveland would have put LeBron up for trade once he refused to sign an extension. They would have much better pieces than they do now. Not the popular thing ,but this is business and good franchise usually don't make the popular decision they make the smart ones.
                      Last edited by da ThRONe; 01-12-2011, 01:29 PM.
                      You looking at the Chair MAN!

                      Number may not tell the whole story ,but they never lie either.

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                      • ehh
                        Hall Of Fame
                        • Mar 2003
                        • 28962

                        #1196
                        Re: The Carmelo Anthony (NY or Bust?) Thread

                        It's going to get interesting if Denver ships Melo somewhere at the deadline for pennies on the dollar as a rental for a playoff team.

                        They have said all along that they do not want to end up like Cle/Tor and get absolutely nothing for losing their star. Granted they'll have zero leverage right at the deadline, do they man up and take a crappy deal to at least get something in return for their departing star?
                        "You make your name in the regular season, and your fame in the postseason." - Clyde Frazier

                        "Beware of geeks bearing formulas." - Warren Buffet

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                        • bigfnjoe96
                          Hall Of Fame
                          • Feb 2004
                          • 11410

                          #1197
                          Re: The Carmelo Anthony (NY or Bust?) Thread

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                          • da ThRONe
                            Fire LesS Miles ASAP!
                            • Mar 2009
                            • 8528

                            #1198
                            Re: The Carmelo Anthony (NY or Bust?) Thread

                            Originally posted by ehh
                            It's going to get interesting if Denver ships Melo somewhere at the deadline for pennies on the dollar as a rental for a playoff team.

                            They have said all along that they do not want to end up like Cle/Tor and get absolutely nothing for losing their star. Granted they'll have zero leverage right at the deadline, do they man up and take a crappy deal to at least get something in return for their departing star?
                            This has been my point. If this was their objective time was their enemy. Maybe I'm wrong ,but from the outside looking in it seems like they dragged their feet with indecision or greed.
                            You looking at the Chair MAN!

                            Number may not tell the whole story ,but they never lie either.

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                            • ex carrabba fan
                              I'll thank him for you
                              • Oct 2004
                              • 32744

                              #1199
                              Re: The Carmelo Anthony (NY or Bust?) Thread

                              Originally posted by ehh
                              It's going to get interesting if Denver ships Melo somewhere at the deadline for pennies on the dollar as a rental for a playoff team.

                              They have said all along that they do not want to end up like Cle/Tor and get absolutely nothing for losing their star. Granted they'll have zero leverage right at the deadline, do they man up and take a crappy deal to at least get something in return for their departing star?
                              Well at this point I do take back my statement about how Melo will play out the remainder of his deal, just because of the media in this age.

                              With so many leaks and rumors, Denver fans are already ready to move on. They will end up booing this guy out of town.

                              So yes, I believe he could be traded for pennies and a few picks.

                              At this point it's come to that, but in no way can you blame Denver's front office for any of it. This is squarely on Melo not signing the extension and him controlling where he goes. Which I cannot blame Melo for doing either, it just is what it is. He's not playing this that badly himself.

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                              • Moses Shuttlesworth
                                AB>
                                • Aug 2006
                                • 9435

                                #1200
                                Re: The Carmelo Anthony (NY or Bust?) Thread

                                It's really difficult for me to envision Melo in anything other than a NY Knicks jersey. I hope he goes to NJ but that's just my feeling.

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