Carmelo Anthony Traded To New York

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His agent, Rose.

It's like Melo is to young/dumb in the head to put the grips on his agent about this.

Melo knows exactly where he wants to play and he's known it all along.

If he wanted to be a Net, this trade and extension would've been pencils down a long time ago.

There's a video from awhile back on wshh where a reporter met Melo after a game in the locker room and said it's all done...you've been traded to the Nets. Melo looked like he wanted to deck the guy.

If the Nuggets FO really just wanted to get something for Melo...they would've moved him OR they would entertain trade proposals from the Knicks.

Like you said Dre, the Nuggets are trying to pimp NJ. Rose is trying to get top $$$. They can't get both unless Melo agrees to skip his championship chase and join the Nets, knowing full well he'll never sniff a 'chip if he agrees to play with them.

If it's not about money...he stays put and rides with his team to the playoffs. He has it in his power to tell his agent that...but he hasn't.

Yeah he's definitely not helping the situation great point

[ex carrabba fan]

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That point aside they were definitely trying to move the kitchen sink, im sorry but they were. Its not about whos at fault here

NY doesnt need to be desperate right now, and theyre a fun team to watch, but come playoff time they'll need another threat on the floor. Maybe they wont care this year since they can afford to wait but this entire thing is a mess right now all over

Kitchen sink? What makes you say that?

There is no deal to be made if Melo doesn't want to go to NJ. That ends any and all talk.

[BATMON]

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Y'all still kicking the tree stump?

[bigeastbumrush]

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I really doubt Denver is trying to "pimp NJ" at this point or any point during this entire thing.

The point still remains that NJ does not want Melo as a rental, "reports" say the owner is interested in that, and by logic you don't trade away half your team for a rental. Melo won't sign an extension with NJ. Result: no trade to NJ.

So stop trying to point fingers at Denver's front office.

Denver at this point is definitely screwed. Nobody else has a chance to get Melo to sign except for the Knicks.

So NY and Melo basically hold the cards right now.

The Denver FO was asking for a Hershel Walker-type deal, so yeah, they're trying to pimp the Nets. No other team was going after Melo that hard. Not even close.

And why is it we haven't heard any other potential teams involved?

Why are they trying so hard to deal him to NJ?

[Boling4Humor]

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There are actually other stories of other teams interested. They just don't have the same assets as New Jersey does. (i.e, Rockets, Mavericks)

Some of you guys are missing the point of this trade though. The Nets aren't going to pull the trigger unless Melo signs that extension with them. There's zero chance he goes to NJ without that extension. NJ is a bad team-- no way around that. But with Melo going you're also getting a NEW team. Is it a championship team? Hell no.

But it's opening the door to get to that caliber. The point of this trade is to get some attractive players this coming offseason to join there team, players like CP3 or Deron Williams might actually be interested in playing with people like Lopez, Melo, and Humphries.

I'm not sure if any of you guys actually have the YES tv network but they have some good players on that team. They (the good players) just can't do it themselves. Thats why if the Nets orginization can get this trade to happen, the new team for the next season could actually be something positive (becuase the Nets are holding on to their good players).

All of you saying that Melo doesn't want to go to NJ should put your keyboards in your mouth. You have no idea! He hasn't said a word of whether or not he'd play in NJ! You're just assuming because of a personal impression you're getting from how he handles his time with the media--what you're doing is called a personal opinion, not a fact!

I'm not saying he's going, but sometimes you guys really gotta dig up some information and analyze the facts.

Here's a fact: Melo's hometown is Brooklyn. The Nets are moving to Brooklyn. Melo could be the first "hometown superstar" since the Brooklyn Dodgers. Melo claims its not about the money, its just about playing somewhere thats home.

But i guess if you're all going to give opinions, I'll give mine too:

Melo, if you really want to be in NY, just live there and head to NJ for basketball games. The commute is not that far.

Melo said he isn't talking to anyone-- that it's the uppers job. Well Melo's agent is an upper and he has been pushing for a deal to get done to where he could land in NJ. If this is such a bad idea and Melo knows it, why hasn't he candidly told his agent "stop"? He really does have a great chance of going to NJ with that signed extension than what you may think

[BATMON]

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There are actually other stories of other teams interested. They just don't have the same assets as New Jersey does. (i.e, Rockets, Mavericks)

Some of you guys are missing the point of this trade though. The Nets aren't going to pull the trigger unless Melo signs that extension with them. There's zero chance he goes to NJ without that extension. NJ is a bad team-- no way around that. But with Melo going you're also getting a NEW team. Is it a championship team? Hell no.

But it's opening the door to get to that caliber. The point of this trade is to get some attractive players this coming offseason to join there team, players like CP3 or Deron Williams might actually be interested in playing with people like Lopez, Melo, and Humphries.

I'm not sure if any of you guys actually have the YES tv network but they have some good players on that team. They (the good players) just can't do it themselves. Thats why if the Nets orginization can get this trade to happen, the new team for the next season could actually be something positive (becuase the Nets are holding on to their good players).

All of you saying that Melo doesn't want to go to NJ should put your keyboards in your mouth. You have no idea! He hasn't said a word of whether or not he'd play in NJ! You're just assuming because of a personal impression you're getting from how he handles his time with the media--what you're doing is called a personal opinion, not a fact!

I'm not saying he's going, but sometimes you guys really gotta dig up some information and analyze the facts.

Here's a fact: Melo's hometown is Brooklyn. The Nets are moving to Brooklyn. Melo could be the first "hometown superstar" since the Brooklyn Dodgers. Melo claims its not about the money, its just about playing somewhere thats home.

But i guess if you're all going to give opinions, I'll give mine too:

Melo, if you really want to be in NY, just live there and head to NJ for basketball games. The commute is not that far.

Melo wants to win dude. He could stay in Denver if he wanted wait for management to "build" around the "New" Nets.
A'Mare and Manhattan is not the same as Newark or even Brooklyn for that matter.

Im sick of writing the same stuff. Going in circles with this.

Dudes have been trying to sell Kris Humphries and Rip Hamilton as equal scenarios to playing in the Garden. Crazy talk.

[King_B_Mack]

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There are actually other stories of other teams interested. They just don't have the same assets as New Jersey does. (i.e, Rockets, Mavericks)

Some of you guys are missing the point of this trade though. The Nets aren't going to pull the trigger unless Melo signs that extension with them. There's zero chance he goes to NJ without that extension. NJ is a bad team-- no way around that. But with Melo going you're also getting a NEW team. Is it a championship team? Hell no.

But it's opening the door to get to that caliber. The point of this trade is to get some attractive players this coming offseason to join there team, players like CP3 or Deron Williams might actually be interested in playing with people like Lopez, Melo, and Humphries.

I'm not sure if any of you guys actually have the YES tv network but they have some good players on that team. They (the good players) just can't do it themselves. Thats why if the Nets orginization can get this trade to happen, the new team for the next season could actually be something positive (becuase the Nets are holding on to their good players).

All of you saying that Melo doesn't want to go to NJ should put your keyboards in your mouth. You have no idea! He hasn't said a word of whether or not he'd play in NJ! You're just assuming because of a personal impression you're getting from how he handles his time with the media--what you're doing is called a personal opinion, not a fact!

I'm not saying he's going, but sometimes you guys really gotta dig up some information and analyze the facts.

Here's a fact: Melo's hometown is Brooklyn. The Nets are moving to Brooklyn. Melo could be the first "hometown superstar" since the Brooklyn Dodgers. Melo claims its not about the money, its just about playing somewhere thats home.

But i guess if you're all going to give opinions, I'll give mine too:

Melo, if you really want to be in NY, just live there and head to NJ for basketball games. The commute is not that far.

Melo said he isn't talking to anyone-- that it's the uppers job. Well Melo's agent is an upper and he has been pushing for a deal to get done to where he could land in NJ. If this is such a bad idea and Melo knows it, why hasn't he candidly told his agent "stop"? He really does have a great chance of going to NJ with that signed extension than what you may think

You get it and yet you don't get it. New Jersey has been pretty much the only team in the picture for WEEKS now, they have a package put together that Denver wants, obviously they want it, they put the package together, however there's no deal because he hasn't signed the extension. Exactly why hasn't he signed the extension? Clearly he's done in Denver judging by his performance on the court in recent games and the quote he had a while back about time for a change. So seriously, how do people need to put they're keyboards in they're mouth? If Melo wanted to play for the Nets, he'd have already played in at least five games by now.

[cubsball899]

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Melo wants to win dude. He could stay in Denver if he wanted wait for management to "build" around the "New" Nets.
A'Mare and Manhattan is not the same as Newark or even Brooklyn for that matter.

Im sick of writing the same stuff. Going in circles with this.

Dudes have been trying to sell Kris Humphries and Rip Hamilton as equal scenarios to playing in the Garden. Crazy talk.

you say he wants to win, but in the same post you say playing with good pieces < playing in a historic stadium?

[BATMON]

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you say he wants to win, but in the same post you say playing with good pieces < playing in a historic stadium?

"NJ or Bust"!!!!!!!!!!

[Boling4Humor]

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You get it and yet you don't get it. New Jersey has been pretty much the only team in the picture for WEEKS now, they have a package put together that Denver wants, obviously they want it, they put the package together, however there's no deal because he hasn't signed the extension. Exactly why hasn't he signed the extension? Clearly he's done in Denver judging by his performance on the court in recent games and the quote he had a while back about time for a change. So seriously, how do people need to put they're keyboards in they're mouth? If Melo wanted to play for the Nets, he'd have already played in at least five games by now.

NJ is not the only team in it. They're just the ones with the most to give. If I knew what the deal with the extension was I'd be sitting in an ESPN cubicle right now. You missed my point regarding the keyboard, that was implied for those taking their opinions and placing it in a level of being a fact. Maybe I'll backpack my way over to the rocky mountains and ask Melo wtf is going on....

[Boling4Humor]

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Melo wants to win dude. He could stay in Denver if he wanted wait for management to "build" around the "New" Nets.
A'Mare and Manhattan is not the same as Newark or even Brooklyn for that matter.

Im sick of writing the same stuff. Going in circles with this.

Dudes have been trying to sell Kris Humphries and Rip Hamilton as equal scenarios to playing in the Garden. Crazy talk.

Who doesnt want to win? Melo going to another team garuntees that team will gain wins. What it does is it opens up a very realistic future of himself, lopez, an excellent PG (CP3 or Williams (Utah)).


I never compared the Knicks talent to the Nets. What I did compare was how close the cities were to eachother.

Equal scenarios? Really? SMH. Now you're just assuming and pointing in areas that were never there. But good try.

[BATMON]

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Who doesnt want to win? Melo going to another team garuntees that team will gain wins. What it does is it opens up a very realistic future of himself, lopez, an excellent PG (CP3 or Williams (Utah)).


I never compared the Knicks talent to the Nets. What I did compare was how close the cities were to eachother.

Equal scenarios? Really? SMH. Now you're just assuming and pointing in areas that were never there. But good try.

Read the entire thread. There are more than one poster trying to sell The Nets.

[Boling4Humor]

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Interesting stuff from SI's Ian Thomsen on Melo. Anthony told IT that Ujiri knows if he will sign an extension with the Nets.

For the love of Julius Erving I hope we get an answer today.


Random note: <----when do you use this? hahaha

[Rawdeal28]

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I might risk myself of been marked as an insensible ... I do understand what it is in play from Melos part, but the way he has handled "on court" all these stuff, is really making me wonder if he is a franchise type player at all ... at least mentally.

He owe it to the sport, to the league, to his fan and to his profesionalism to recompose and play as he should or always has ... it is not a situation that has just unfold recently, therefor having an understandable shocking effect, this "drama" has been since early in the season ... even earlier, since he decided not to sign the extention.

To me, the way Melo is playing now, is worse to DEN than (CLE) whatever negative effect resulted from LBJ decission ... I mean, it is clear that both teams would be left without their corner stone ... but at least LBJ effects (leaving aside the conjetures of last year playoffs) were off court.

Seriously, after watching DEN last 5 games (even their win too), it seems like he is on the court just to fill a space ... If I were DEN, I would sit him (like DET does to Hamilton) until a trade is worked out, be it with NJ-NY-whoever.

funny u should say that...................

'Melo mania a lot of noise about a one-dimensional star

Anthony has been in the playoffs all seven seasons with Denver, but past the first round just once.
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'Melo mania a lot of noise about a one-dimensional star


Posted Jan 18 2011 9:49AM
Is he worth all the fuss? Carmelo Anthony, that is.
Based on a suddenly soaring media profile, fueled by trade talk both real and speculative, and enhanced by the fact that at least one team is pulling out all stops to get him, you'd think Anthony is a cut above. And he is. Sort of.
After speaking with a half-dozen scouts and front-office types, here are two things we gather about the league's "most discussed" player:
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He's a dangerous scorer; top five in the league.
And if he's your team's best player, your team probably won't win a championship.


This was the consensus opinion of those who study games for a living, and it sounds about right. 'Melo does one thing extremely well. Anthony will put up nice numbers almost on a nightly basis, against almost any defense. He can and will take the big shot, which is important, since many players want no part of the ball in money time. And he forces teams to change the way they play defense.


Said one scout: "You can't find a lot of players who can break down a defense off the dribble and in addition shoot from the outside like he does. Some players can do one or the other but not both at a very high level like that. When he's got it working, you must double him, or he'll kill you. LeBron [James], [Kevin] Durant, Kobe [Bryant] and [Dwyane] Wade are in that category. That's about it."


Said another: "He faces the basket about as well as anyone. His footwork, step-back jumper, the way he gets his man off-balance, the way he sets up his man, it's a rare gift. Fun to watch."


But then ...
Anthony lacks most of the intangibles necessary to be a great player, they say. And this is why the Nets, or whoever gets him for the long-term and wants to win a championship, are advised to find another All-Star teammate for him, if they don't already have one. The scouts all agree Anthony just doesn't have "it" to be the focal point of a contender, to motivate teammates and to impact games other than scoring (although 'Melo is one of the league's better rebounding small forwards).



One scout: "If he's your main guy, your team won't be lifting the trophy. He's Dominique Wilkins in that regard."
Another scout: "Because he's such a terrific scorer, you've got to have him on your team, but that doesn't make him a team player. Does that make any sense?"


Anthony is a wanted man partly because he refuses to commit himself to the Nuggets, and partly because no one else at his level is on the market. That's why there's the perception that everyone wants him. Which isn't necessarily the case.
Only the Nets and Knicks have expressed heavy interest, and at least with the Knicks, that interest has strings attached. They've made no attempt to strip their team in order to trade for Anthony, preferring to wait until summer to get him for free. And perhaps cheaper. That feeds the theory that teams don't feel 'Melo is in the LeBron/Kobe/Wade/Durant class (good enough to carry a team). Until the Nuggets added Chauncey Billups, they went beyond the first round only once with Melo.


Interestingly, few if any other contenders are bothering to scrape together the necessary goods and rearrange their roster to pry Anthony away from Denver. That's partly because they're not getting strong enough signals from Anthony that he'd be willing to sign a contract extension, but also because they're not sure 'Melo would make that much of a difference. So why go through all the trouble?


The Bulls evidently like their team, now that Carlos Boozer is (relatively) healthy. And coach Tom Thibodeau is a stickler for defense, not one of 'Melo's specialties.
The Magic pulled the trigger for Gilbert Arenas, Hedo Turkoglu and Jason Richardson and not Anthony, although that's probably because they couldn't give the Nuggets the right amount of compensation.
The Lakers have resisted the urge not only to add 'Melo, but any scorer who might threaten Kobe Bryant's role.
The Celtics have no trade bait, and besides, if healthy, the defending Eastern Conference champs, who nearly won it all last summer, like their chances as is.


And can you imagine Miami adding 'Melo to that mix? Even if they had something to give the Nuggets? No, you can't.
Even if he joins the Nets, 'Melo wouldn't be thrilled with his surroundings in the short-term. The Nets would need to add considerably; that's where all the Chris Paul talk factors in, although they'd probably see competition for Paul from the Knicks in two years when Paul can become an unrestricted free agent. And, as Melo said last week: "I just want to win. At the end of the day, that's all I care about."


A few teams would love to try and win with him.
What's interesting is all the teams who'd rather win without him

[BATMON]

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What has LeBron won?