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  • ehh
    Hall Of Fame
    • Mar 2003
    • 28962

    #16
    Re: MIAMI vs Boston Keys to the Game

    Especially without Mike Miller tomorrow I'm sure the Celtics will pack things in and force the entire Heat team to be jump shooters. Easier said than done though, once LBJ gets into the paint it's pretty much game over - whether it's a bucket, foul or assist.
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    • Basketball GURU
      MVP
      • Jul 2010
      • 1287

      #17
      Re: MIAMI vs Boston Keys to the Game

      Keys to the game for Boston is gonna be their bench depth and front court. Let Lebron score his 30, key in on wade and bosh..K.g should do a good job containing bosh. If Bosh doen't have a good game miami will lose. The only way I see boston losing is if ray is ice cold and pierce is struggling! without mike miller miami's bench will be hurting!

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      • BaselineBakes
        MVP
        • Dec 2006
        • 1510

        #18
        Re: MIAMI vs Boston Keys to the Game

        I want to know why were acting like Shaq isn't washed up and Jermaine O'neal is a serviceable center now? Legit question.

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        • Basketball GURU
          MVP
          • Jul 2010
          • 1287

          #19
          Re: MIAMI vs Boston Keys to the Game

          Originally posted by BaselineBakes
          I want to know why were acting like Shaq isn't washed up and Jermaine O'neal is a serviceable center now? Legit question.
          Shaq is still a big body out there and he can still get you some pts and rebs, beside Bosh he's better then all of miami's big men!

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          • BaselineBakes
            MVP
            • Dec 2006
            • 1510

            #20
            Re: MIAMI vs Boston Keys to the Game

            Originally posted by Basketball GURU
            Shaq is still a big body out there and he can still get you some pts and rebs, beside Bosh he's better then all of miami's big men!
            Shaq is marginally productive on offense for about 10 minutes and is a liability on defense to the point where if he's involved in a single pick and roll it's an automatic basket.

            He hurt the Cavaliers on defense so much last year it was ridiculous, If hes on the floor at the same time as Haslem and Bosh, either pick and roll tandem with Wade and James will be automatic all game long to the point where Shaq has to be on the bench. Also with Haslem and Bosh's pick and pop ability it could get even worse for the Celtics if Shaq is caught trying to guard that.

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            • Basketball GURU
              MVP
              • Jul 2010
              • 1287

              #21
              Re: MIAMI vs Boston Keys to the Game

              Originally posted by BaselineBakes
              Shaq is marginally productive on offense for about 10 minutes and is a liability on defense to the point where if he's involved in a single pick and roll it's an automatic basket.

              He hurt the Cavaliers on defense so much last year it was ridiculous, If hes on the floor at the same time as Haslem and Bosh, either pick and roll tandem with Wade and James will be automatic all game long to the point where Shaq has to be on the bench. Also with Haslem and Bosh's pick and pop ability it could get even worse for the Celtics if Shaq is caught trying to guard that.
              yea shaq's D is not that great but the celtics as a whole with their scheme has been able to mask some guys and make them look some what like decent defenses players(Ray Allen)...depending whos on the floor for the heat, boston can sag off and rotate with some help D.

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              • BaselineBakes
                MVP
                • Dec 2006
                • 1510

                #22
                Re: MIAMI vs Boston Keys to the Game

                Originally posted by Basketball GURU
                yea shaq's D is not that great but the celtics as a whole with their scheme has been able to mask some guys and make them look some what like decent defenses players(Ray Allen)...depending whos on the floor for the heat, boston can sag off and rotate with some help D.
                It's easy to cover up one person's deficiencies but not two especially when you can catch both of them in a pick and roll/pop situation. When those two are Wade/Bosh against Allen/Shaq it's game over. As an anchor, I think Shaq seriously hurts the defensive makeup of this team. Celtic fans will see just like Cavs fans saw last year.

                The Cavs covered up Mo williams for a while but when Shaq came in the wheels came off the defense. I just can't see the Celtics front court being that much of an advantage over the Heat with Shaq in such an advanced stage of his career.

                Even when Perkins comes back, off an ACL injury nonetheless even that's not guaranteed. I do think the Celtics win 2morrow night though, turnovers will be the difference with the Heat trying to find their groove but down the line I think the Celtics bigs advantage over the Heat is over-blown.

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                • Basketball GURU
                  MVP
                  • Jul 2010
                  • 1287

                  #23
                  Re: MIAMI vs Boston Keys to the Game

                  Originally posted by BaselineBakes
                  It's easy to cover up one person's deficiencies but not two especially when you can catch both of them in a pick and roll/pop situation. When those two are Wade/Bosh against Allen/Shaq it's game over. As an anchor, I think Shaq seriously hurts the defensive makeup of this team. Celtic fans will see just like Cavs fans saw last year.

                  The Cavs covered up Mo williams for a while but when Shaq came in the wheels came off the defense. I just can't see the Celtics front court being that much of an advantage over the Heat with Shaq in such an advanced stage of his career.

                  Even when Perkins comes back, off an ACL injury nonetheless even that's not guaranteed. I do think the Celtics win 2morrow night though, turnovers will be the difference with the Heat trying to find their groove but down the line I think the Celtics bigs advantage over the Heat is over-blown.
                  I doubt Shaq is guarding Bosh, and I think it would help a little if Rondo is on wade. If Boston can just contain and try and keep both bosh and wade under 20 their chances are good. Lebron will be the primary ballhandler and if you take his two other options away, the heat have no other serious threat.

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                  • BaselineBakes
                    MVP
                    • Dec 2006
                    • 1510

                    #24
                    Re: MIAMI vs Boston Keys to the Game

                    Originally posted by Basketball GURU
                    I doubt Shaq is guarding Bosh, and I think it would help a little if Rondo is on wade.
                    That's a good point but I see them putting Shaq in the Pick and roll situation no matter who he's guarding.

                    Originally posted by Basketball GURU
                    If Boston can just contain and try and keep both bosh and wade under 20 their chances are good. Lebron will be the primary ballhandler and if you take his two other options away, the heat have no other serious threat.
                    You say this like it's easy to keep Wade under 20, and with Lebron in the pick and roll you have to send extra help no matter what so Bosh is picking up offensive boards and outside jumpers all night at this point with the attention on Wade and Bron.

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                    • LingeringRegime
                      Hall Of Fame
                      • Jun 2007
                      • 17089

                      #25
                      Re: MIAMI vs Boston Keys to the Game

                      Rondo will crash the Heat Party tonight. Triple Double.

                      Another key is going to be technical fouls. It will be interesting to see if Boston can adjust their emotions.
                      Last edited by LingeringRegime; 10-26-2010, 10:07 AM.

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                      • jeebs9
                        Fear is the Unknown
                        • Oct 2008
                        • 47568

                        #26
                        Re: MIAMI vs Boston Keys to the Game

                        I was kind of thinking the samething last night after playing NBA Today of this match-up. Arroyo/Mario lot of trouble keeping him in front of them. Had a lot of layups and drive and kicks.
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                        • StickeeGreen
                          Banned
                          • Jun 2003
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                          #27
                          Re: MIAMI vs Boston Keys to the Game

                          Heat by 20...LeBron or Wade will have 40pts.

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                          • Pared
                            Legen - WAIT FOR IT
                            • Feb 2003
                            • 39337

                            #28
                            Re: MIAMI vs Boston Keys to the Game

                            Originally posted by Moses Shuttlesworth
                            Delonte is suspended for the first ten games.
                            lol DOH!

                            It's certainly a valid point however, with the amount of minutes you expect the Big 3 to play, I can see at least one of them always being out there on the floor one way or another.

                            Celtics bench will be key, as well as their front court. KG, Shaq and J. O'Neal will have to hold their on on the block, both on the boards and defensively/offensively.

                            Miami's key will be their spacing. The Heat should spread out Boston because they are much quick overall; I'd expect a good amount of iso's and PnR's. They also need to keep Boston moving, whether it be on the break or in the half court. Miami's speed will be their biggest advantage they need to capitalize on.
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                            • Muzyk23
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                              • Feb 2003
                              • 4192

                              #29
                              Re: MIAMI vs Boston Keys to the Game

                              I want to see Celts' bigs fold. They are getting too much credit, especially with Perkins out.
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                              • Dewie12
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                                #30
                                Re: MIAMI vs Boston Keys to the Game

                                Miami is certainly going to need to push the ball all game long. They need to have this game in the 110's. Bosh needs to wear out Garnett, Big Baby and any of the other aged vets the Celtics throw out there.

                                Lebron will need to stop Pierce. His defensive matchup with Pierce is more important than anything Lebron will do offensively.

                                Ray Allen will need help with Wade. If Wade is at full strength the Celtics might want to play Rondo on Wade to prevent penetration off the dribble.

                                The Celtics would be wise to slow down the game and utilize half court sets that allows Rondo to come off multiple screens. Making Miami work on defense each possession will slow down their potential to fast break.

                                This is a matchup of a great half court defensive team and a terrifically talented offensive team that needs to run.

                                Pace will be important in the second and third quarters.

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