Jay-Z Involved In Basketball Decisions for the Nets?

[Dice]

http://www.nydailynews.com/blogs/nets/2011/04/jay-z-is-no-nelly-hes-passionate-about-the-nets-says-gm?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+nydnrss%2Fblogs%2Fnets+%28Blogs%2FThe+InterNets%29

So I guess I won't be surprised if the Nets trade Deron Williams and a first round pick for Sebastian Telfair.

[SPTO]

Re: Jay-Z Involved In Basketball Decisions for the Nets?

Jeez, if Jay-Z is really making decisions on personnel the Nets are NEVER going to get better. Well at least he's no Isiah Thomas.

[King_B_Mack]

Re: Jay-Z Involved In Basketball Decisions for the Nets?

Jeez, if Jay-Z is really making decisions on personnel the Nets are NEVER going to get better. Well at least he's no Isiah Thomas.

So there is no chance that Jay knows anything about basketball then? The Nets are automatically screwed and never going to get better cause he's making decisions? Really? Cool story

[SPTO]

Re: Jay-Z Involved In Basketball Decisions for the Nets?

So there is no chance that Jay knows anything about basketball then? The Nets are automatically screwed and never going to get better cause he's making decisions? Really? Cool story

Any owner that thinks they know more than the people they hire to make those decisions get into the trap of falling in love with certain players and/or keeping players that under perform just because they like them a lot. In the short term there may be success but when the owner meddles with things then the odds of winning go down a bit.

Just look at the gong show that is the New York Knicks also look at the Yankees in the '80s when Steinbrenner had his hands in the cookie jar. As for a more recent example just look at the goofballs Dan Snyder and Jerry Jones.

I'm not saying they're NEVER gonna get better but if Jay-Z sticks his fingers into the pie well....it could slow things down or outright stunt the team's growth.

[King_B_Mack]

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All I'm saying is it's a little short sighted and unfair to say that the Nets are pretty much doomed to never be better, which you did say, because Jay is making decisions. No GM is just out there doing whatever they want to do. They didn't say he was out there undermining King's decisions or nothing like that. He wasn't making up the lineups and things and telling him who gets playing time and who doesn't like a Jerry Jones or anything like that. No GMs are just running out hiring coaches and signing players without input from the owner/s. So there's really no need in dooming the Nets cause Jay-Z isn't just some guy you see sitting courtside or in a box other than saying 'duh he's a rapper and celebrity owner, they're screwed if he's making decisions.'

[bigeastbumrush]

Wow. This whole "Brooklyn" thing is so overrated and becoming really annoying. So what if JayZ made a pitch to Melo and LeBron and whomever. He's probably no better and evaluator of talent than any of us here.

And if this article is trying to suggest that because he makes sales pitches or shows up in locker rooms that he's somehow a great basketball mind..then the Nets are screwed.

I'm cool with him being passionate about where he's from and his ownership.

But..sit in the luxury suites and call it a day.

The Nets are setting themselves up for utter disappointment by trying to showcase a move (that's all it is folks) from across a river.

Build your team and players will gravitate there in time and willingly.

But this whole Brooklyn thing is overkill.

[aholbert32]

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Jeez, if Jay-Z is really making decisions on personnel the Nets are NEVER going to get better. Well at least he's no Isiah Thomas.

Whats the difference between Jay and Cuban? Or Buss? or Dan Gilbert. Those three are all owners who have a say in the teams player moves but they have no basketball experience other than owning a team.

Like with most teams, the GM (Billy King in this case) run decisions by the owners. Thats all the article said. The final decision is made by the Russian and GM.

[SPTO]

Re: Jay-Z Involved In Basketball Decisions for the Nets?

Whats the difference between Jay and Cuban? Or Buss? or Dan Gilbert. Those three are all owners who have a say in the teams player moves but they have no basketball experience other than owning a team.

Like with most teams, the GM (Billy King in this case) run decisions by the owners. Thats all the article said. The final decision is made by the Russian and GM.

Good point, I'm just saying I don't prefer that kind of set up. I'd rather have an owner who is hands off and steps in when needed. That's all.

[OSUFan_88]

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Whats the difference between Jay and Cuban? Or Buss? or Dan Gilbert. Those three are all owners who have a say in the teams player moves but they have no basketball experience other than owning a team.

True, but all of those owners are self made. And while I'm certainly not saying that Jay Z isn't self made...it's not like he got to where he is by being a business man.

Truth is, Jay-Z isn't really qualified to run a franchise.

[da ThRONe]

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With all the bad personnel move and contract some of these so called knowledgeable basketball people make I don't see why a person like Jigga can't improve a franchise.

[da ThRONe]

Re: Jay-Z Involved In Basketball Decisions for the Nets?

True, but all of those owners are self made. And while I'm certainly not saying that Jay Z isn't self made...it's not like he got to where he is by being a business man.

Truth is, Jay-Z isn't really qualified to run a franchise.

Clearly you have no idea what your talking about as it pertains to Jay-Z's career and rise to wealth.

[OSUFan_88]

Re: Jay-Z Involved In Basketball Decisions for the Nets?

Clearly you have no idea what your talking about as it pertains to Jay-Z's career and rise to wealth.

I should have known this was coming.

In case you are wondering, no, I don't care about Jay-Z's career or rise to wealth. From the limited amount that I do know, it doesn't put him nearly in the same league as someone like Cuban when it comes to managing a big company like the Nets.

[The 24th Letter]

Re: Jay-Z Involved In Basketball Decisions for the Nets?

True, but all of those owners are self made. And while I'm certainly not saying that Jay Z isn't self made...it's not like he got to where he is by being a business man..

Not true in the slightest..

[Dice]

Re: Jay-Z Involved In Basketball Decisions for the Nets?

Whats the difference between Jay and Cuban? Or Buss? or Dan Gilbert. Those three are all owners who have a say in the teams player moves but they have no basketball experience other than owning a team.

Like with most teams, the GM (Billy King in this case) run decisions by the owners. Thats all the article said. The final decision is made by the Russian and GM.

So why have a GM if your owners are going to make the basketball decisions that affect the roster? Yes, in the business world that's why companies hire managers and directors to make decisions for different parts of the corporation. BUT the owners will have to trust the decisions of their manager in order to make it successful.

Now I can understand your point on Cuban. I think he's keeping the Mavs from being legit title contenders instead of being pretenders. Buss on the other hand learned his lesson and I'm pretty sure he doesn't interfere with Kupchak's decisions after the two butted heads on whether to trade Kobe or not back in 2007. Buss was looking for the best deal and Kupchak convinced Buss to keep him. Since then, Buss would be a fool to overturn his moves.

Not sure about the Gilbert situation. BUT the point is when the owners start meddling with the team like they're playing in a Fantasy Basketball League, then that's where you have issues. King said in the article that he emails Jay on 'What about this guy?' Why are you even asking him? Just tell him, 'I want to get this guy!' and be done with it.

[wwharton]

Re: Jay-Z Involved In Basketball Decisions for the Nets?

True, but all of those owners are self made. And while I'm certainly not saying that Jay Z isn't self made...it's not like he got to where he is by being a business man.

Truth is, Jay-Z isn't really qualified to run a franchise.

Wait, what??? lol, are you sure about that? Jay Z was the CEO of Def Jam, has Roccawear, has a string of 40/40 clubs around the country and maybe the world along with other business ventures. Rappers make money, they don't get rich. Jay Z most definitely got to where he is by being a business man.

Or like he says, "I'm not a business man, I'm a business, man." Seriously though, that statement couldn't be any further from the truth.