Let's settle this: Kevin Durant vs. Carmelo Anthony

[ex carrabba fan]

Re: Let's settle this: Kevin Durant vs. Carmelo Anthony

Durant - touches per game: 66.3, time of possession per game: 3.2 minutes.

Melo- touches per game: 71.1, time of possession per game 3.5 minutes.

And Melo holds on to the ball longer than Durant?

Yes, he does. Per possession, simply watch any Knick game. Or Nugget game when he played for them.

Again, Anthony's offensive repertoire is built on facing up and jab stepping for at least 5 or 6 seconds.

This is quite evident.

[BringTheHeat]

Re: Let's settle this: Kevin Durant vs. Carmelo Anthony

Anthony is also a much much better post player than Durant is. Anthony can bang down low..pause..with the big guys where Durant has to shoot a fade away that's highly inconsistent.

[ex carrabba fan]

Re: Let's settle this: Kevin Durant vs. Carmelo Anthony

Anthony is also a much much better post player than Durant is. Anthony can bang down low..pause..with the big guys where Durant has to shoot a fade away that's highly inconsistent.

Meh. Even with that said, Durant is still a better scorer than Anthony. Again though, if a coach could put Anthony in an actual offense it'd be fun to watch. Anything would be better than what he's been doing for the past four years or so. Which is iso on the wing.

[ojandpizza]

Re: Let's settle this: Kevin Durant vs. Carmelo Anthony

Yes, he does. Per possession, simply watch any Knick game. Or Nugget game when he played for them.



Again, Anthony's offensive repertoire is built on facing up and jab stepping for at least 5 or 6 seconds.



This is quite evident.

What I just posted shows that on average per possession he only holds the ball a tenth of a second longer than Durant.

And yeah he has the moments where he holds and jabs, as long as he is effective and making as good of a percent as any other great scorer does with their style, and he's not being a black hole or turning the ball over then I just don't understand how it's a problem.

Jordan held and jabbed or kept the ball on the post that long before fading away. LeBron holds the ball, Kobe had held the ball, Iverson, T-Mac, any great scorer you want to name has instances where they hang on to the ball because it's better in their hands than in someone else's.

Durant just happens to play in a much more uptempo offense. He's doesn't even get the ball in half court sets as often because it's usually Westbrook or Jackson attacking when that happens.

[ex carrabba fan]

Re: Let's settle this: Kevin Durant vs. Carmelo Anthony

Per possession? I don't see how that makes sense.

Anyway, now that you're comparing Jordan and LeBron to Anthony I think it's time to end this discussion. Bryant was the ultimate exception to the rule while Iverson had nothing to show for his ball dominant ways. Anthony is well on his way to Iverson status except an even worse version, considering his inability to get very far in the post season.

If you can tell me with a straight face that the way Anthony operates is an efficient or "smart" way to play basketball then we don't have anything else to talk about.

You can post about all of the stats in the world to make Bumi blush in his grave. Trying to tell me that Durant holds onto to the basketball just a tenth of a second less on average than Anthony is an obvious flaw in observation.

[BringTheHeat]

Re: Let's settle this: Kevin Durant vs. Carmelo Anthony

Per possession? I don't see how that makes sense.

Anyway, now that you're comparing Jordan and LeBron to Anthony I think it's time to end this discussion. Bryant was the ultimate exception to the rule while Iverson had nothing to show for his ball dominant ways. Anthony is well on his way to Iverson status except an even worse version, considering his inability to get very far in the post season.

If you can tell me with a straight face that the way Anthony operates is an efficient or "smart" way to play basketball then we don't have anything else to talk about.

You can post about all of the stats in the world to make Bumi blush in his grave. Trying to tell me that Durant holds onto to the basketball just a tenth of a second less on average than Anthony is an obvious flaw in observation.

If Anthony is on his way to AI status Durant is on his way to TMac status..

[ex carrabba fan]

Re: Let's settle this: Kevin Durant vs. Carmelo Anthony

If Anthony is on his way to AI status Durant is on his way to TMac status..

TMac status? The last time I checked, TMac still hasn't gotten out of the first round. Last time I checked, TMac never led a team to the finals.

That's the ultimate disrespect to Durant

[BringTheHeat]

Re: Let's settle this: Kevin Durant vs. Carmelo Anthony

TMac status? The last time I checked, TMac still hasn't gotten out of the first round. Last time I checked, TMac never led a team to the finals.

Last time I checked TMac never had a healthy legit second option..

TMac was one of the best scorers ever..and...that's it

[ex carrabba fan]

Re: Let's settle this: Kevin Durant vs. Carmelo Anthony

Last time I checked TMac never had a healthy legit second option..

TMac was one of the best scorers ever..and...that's it

?

You can make all the excuses you want, go for it

Again, let me know when TMac leads a team to the finals let alone gets out of the first round

TMac status

[BlueNGold]

Re: Let's settle this: Kevin Durant vs. Carmelo Anthony

?

You can make all the excuses you want, go for it

Again, let me know when TMac leads a team to the finals let alone gets out of the first round

TMac status

This thread is going to be hilarious to look back at in a couple years.

[ex carrabba fan]

Re: Let's settle this: Kevin Durant vs. Carmelo Anthony

TMac is my boy and all, he's a HOFer

I just wonder how Durant can be heading for TMac status when Durant has already pretty much surpassed him. IMO

[BringTheHeat]

Re: Let's settle this: Kevin Durant vs. Carmelo Anthony

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You can make all the excuses you want, go for it

Again, let me know when TMac leads a team to the finals let alone gets out of the first round

TMac status

Let me know how Durant does without any help like Anthony and TMac had to deal with.

And this will be funny? Ok. Durant will have a few more scoring titles..maybe an MVP, but he'll still be ringless, just like Melo.

[ex carrabba fan]

Re: Let's settle this: Kevin Durant vs. Carmelo Anthony

Let me know how Durant does without any help like Anthony and TMac had to deal with.

And this will be funny? Ok. Durant will have a few more scoring titles..maybe an MVP, but he'll still be ringless, just like Melo.

Again, how is Durant heading for TMac status when Durant has already arguably surpassed him? What has TMac accomplished that Durant hasn't?

Not even speaking of International accolades and accomplishments

And don't act like Anthony has never played with a legit support cast

[ojandpizza]

Re: Let's settle this: Kevin Durant vs. Carmelo Anthony

Per possession? I don't see how that makes sense.

Anyway, now that you're comparing Jordan and LeBron to Anthony I think it's time to end this discussion. Bryant was the ultimate exception to the rule while Iverson had nothing to show for his ball dominant ways. Anthony is well on his way to Iverson status except an even worse version, considering his inability to get very far in the post season.

If you can tell me with a straight face that the way Anthony operates is an efficient or "smart" way to play basketball then we don't have anything else to talk about.

You can post about all of the stats in the world to make Bumi blush in his grave. Trying to tell me that Durant holds onto to the basketball just a tenth of a second less on average than Anthony is an obvious flaw in observation.

Durant - touches per game: 66.3, time of possession per game: 3.2 minutes.

Melo- touches per game: 71.1, time of possession per game 3.5 minutes.

Durant: Time of possession (3.2 minutes)(60 seconds in a minute) = 192 seconds per game he's in possession of the ball. 192/66.3 = 2.895 seconds per possession.

Melo: (3.5 minutes)(60 seconds in a minute) = 210 seconds per game.
210/71.1 = 2.954 seconds per possession.

It's actually .059 seconds difference. So about half of a tenth of a second.

I'm not comparing Jordan and LeBron to Melo, I'm comparing great scorers in general.. Don't take things out of context man you know what I was saying.

Melo has been just as efficient of a scorer as a long list of players if you saw my first post. Just efficient this season as Curry, Harden, and PG. and roughly one missed shot in FG% difference of percentage to Durant... If that's not "smart" basketball then so be it.

But nobody is questioning how smart he is. Just want to know how he's a ball hog, inefficient chucker when he isn't doing much of anything different than some of the greatest scorers of all time, most of whom would never have that label hanging over their heads. Even the ones who didn't win anything.

[ojandpizza]

Re: Let's settle this: Kevin Durant vs. Carmelo Anthony

This thread is going to be hilarious to look back at in a couple years.

I think it's basically irrelevant now. I don't think many if any people consider Melo as good or better than KD.