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    • Sep 2002
    • 66469

    #586
    Re: Team USA 2012

    I know that...but it just aint workin with these guys

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    • bigeastbumrush
      My Momma's Son
      • Feb 2003
      • 19245

      #587
      Re: Team USA 2012

      James Harden looks like a waiter on a cruise ship

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      • Boltman
        L.A. to S.D. to HI
        • Mar 2004
        • 18283

        #588
        Re: Team USA 2012



        Cowherd said, are we going over to play in London or Invade them lmao.

        They had to know they were gonna catch a ton of flack previewing them awful pics.

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        • Kashanova
          Hall Of Fame
          • Aug 2003
          • 12695

          #589
          Re: Team USA 2012

          Originally posted by ex carrabba fan
          Tough argument to make, do you have any sort of stats or proof or are you just making things up again.
          Don't make things up, I'm using what I've seen as the games go by. Offense flows better with Kobe off the court. I think the lineup of Westbrook, Lebron, Durant, Melo, and Chandler is the best one

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          • Kashanova
            Hall Of Fame
            • Aug 2003
            • 12695

            #590
            Re: Team USA 2012

            Originally posted by The 24th Letter
            We are all on the same team here for the time being, Kash you can put your hate aside for a couple of weeks man....lol

            We must unite!
            I'm rooting for USA to win the gold, and we have a few glaring weaknesses. I was just pointing them out.

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            • ex carrabba fan
              I'll thank him for you
              • Oct 2004
              • 32744

              #591
              Re: Team USA 2012

              Originally posted by Kashanova
              I'm rooting for USA to win the gold, and we have a few glaring weaknesses. I was just pointing them out.
              Glaring weakness is lack of size. With that said, hard to point out anything else being a "glaring weakness" considering their performances over the 5 game exhibition.. they've dominated outside of Brazil.

              Explain yourself on this one

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              • Checmate101
                N.W.O. - NO WR OPEN
                • Mar 2006
                • 9947

                #592
                Re: Team USA 2012

                When do we play?
                Washington Redskins
                Washington Wizards
                St.Louis Cardinals
                Uconn Huskies
                Miami Hurricanes

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                • Kashanova
                  Hall Of Fame
                  • Aug 2003
                  • 12695

                  #593
                  Re: Team USA 2012

                  Originally posted by ex carrabba fan
                  Glaring weakness is lack of size. With that said, hard to point out anything else being a "glaring weakness" considering their performances over the 5 game exhibition.. they've dominated outside of Brazil.

                  Explain yourself on this one
                  They didn't dominate against Brazil for the exact fact that the offense didn't flow well and it wasn't efficient.

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                  • Kashanova
                    Hall Of Fame
                    • Aug 2003
                    • 12695

                    #594
                    Re: Team USA 2012

                    Originally posted by Checmate101
                    When do we play?
                    I think they open against france on sunday

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                    • ex carrabba fan
                      I'll thank him for you
                      • Oct 2004
                      • 32744

                      #595
                      Re: Team USA 2012

                      Originally posted by Kashanova
                      Don't make things up, I'm using what I've seen as the games go by. Offense flows better with Kobe off the court. I think the lineup of Westbrook, Lebron, Durant, Melo, and Chandler is the best one
                      You think that but yet you have no evidence or bring in no proof to support your case. Seems like you're the one making things up.
                      Originally posted by Kashanova
                      They didn't dominate against Brazil for the exact fact that the offense didn't flow well and it wasn't efficient.
                      You're trying to pin that on one player? Lol

                      I'm looking directly at Coach K for that one. His half court sets are nothing more than Mike Brown iso's. They depend on shear athleticism and speed in the half court. Dangerous.

                      Their weaknesses are lack of size, limited outside shooting and awful sets in the half court.

                      It's not just one or two guys who don't make the offense flow, it's Coach K. It dates back to when he first took over head coaching duties, watch the tape.

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                      • Kashanova
                        Hall Of Fame
                        • Aug 2003
                        • 12695

                        #596
                        Re: Team USA 2012

                        Originally posted by ex carrabba fan
                        You think that but yet you have no evidence or bring in no proof to support your case. Seems like you're the one making things up.

                        You're trying to pin that on one player? Lol

                        I'm looking directly at Coach K for that one. His half court sets are nothing more than Mike Brown iso's. They depend on shear athleticism and speed in the half court. Dangerous.

                        Their weaknesses are lack of size, limited outside shooting and awful sets in the half court.

                        It's not just one or two guys who don't make the offense flow, it's Coach K. It dates back to when he first took over head coaching duties, watch the tape.
                        Blaming the coach? The coach isn't out there shooting a terrible percentage. They should give durant more minutes at the 2 guard and give Kobe less. He hasn't been an efficient scorer for the USA team

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                        • ex carrabba fan
                          I'll thank him for you
                          • Oct 2004
                          • 32744

                          #597
                          Re: Team USA 2012

                          Originally posted by Kashanova
                          Blaming the coach? The coach isn't out there shooting a terrible percentage. They should give durant more minutes at the 2 guard and give Kobe less. He hasn't been an efficient scorer for the USA team
                          The coach is the one who can't seem to get the world's best players to even look halfway decent in half court sets. His defensive schemes are top notch, but the offense leaves a lot to desire. That is fact, like I said, look back to when he first took over. Look back to 2008. They have always depended on defense to turn into easy offense in transition.

                          Kobe's defense and his ability to handle the ball/create offense are why he's in there. Do you have the stats to prove who has been efficient and who hasn't?

                          They shouldn't fix what isn't broken in terms of the rotations. Ever since they went with my idea, start KD and sit Melo, it's turned out to be just fine. Melo is much better coming off the bench and they need KD's shooting from the start.

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                          • ProfessaPackMan
                            Bamma
                            • Mar 2008
                            • 63852

                            #598
                            Re: Team USA 2012

                            Originally posted by ex carrabba fan
                            You're trying to pin that on one player? Lol

                            I'm looking directly at Coach K for that one. His half court sets are nothing more than Mike Brown iso's. They depend on shear athleticism and speed in the half court. Dangerous.

                            Their weaknesses are lack of size, limited outside shooting and awful sets in the half court.

                            It's not just one or two guys who don't make the offense flow, it's Coach K. It dates back to when he first took over head coaching duties, watch the tape.
                            Honestly, I don't really have an issue with this. Even without running exactly the best Offensive Sets out there, they still have the talent to beat everyone by at least 15-20 pts and for 2 1/2 weeks, that's absolutely fine with me.
                            #RespectTheCulture

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                            • ex carrabba fan
                              I'll thank him for you
                              • Oct 2004
                              • 32744

                              #599
                              Re: Team USA 2012

                              Originally posted by ProfessaPackMan
                              Honestly, I don't really have an issue with this. Even without running exactly the best Offensive Sets out there, they still have the talent to beat everyone by at least 15-20 pts and for 2 1/2 weeks, that's absolutely fine with me.
                              I don't have any issue either, my point was more that it isn't like one or two guys are messing up the offensive flow. They simply don't have the chemistry to have consistent flow. Coach K's offense has never been even halfway decent when it comes to international play.

                              I'm telling you, look back through the years. 2008, 2010 and then this summer.

                              Like I said I have no issues with Coach K, you can't argue his results. Only one loss as head coach. However if someone is going to try to assert that Kobe Bryant is mucking things up and that he should only get 10 minutes a game because "the offense is inefficient and doesn't flow"? Try again bud.

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                              • Kashanova
                                Hall Of Fame
                                • Aug 2003
                                • 12695

                                #600
                                Re: Team USA 2012

                                Originally posted by ex carrabba fan
                                The coach is the one who can't seem to get the world's best players to even look halfway decent in half court sets. His defensive schemes are top notch, but the offense leaves a lot to desire. That is fact, like I said, look back to when he first took over. Look back to 2008. They have always depended on defense to turn into easy offense in transition.

                                Kobe's defense and his ability to handle the ball/create offense are why he's in there. Do you have the stats to prove who has been efficient and who hasn't?

                                They shouldn't fix what isn't broken in terms of the rotations. Ever since they went with my idea, start KD and sit Melo, it's turned out to be just fine. Melo is much better coming off the bench and they need KD's shooting from the start.
                                ok sure vince.
                                Kobe against Brazil. 3 for 11, 2 for 7 3pt. only 8 points
                                Kobe against DR 2 for 6, 0 for 3 3pt, 4 points
                                Kobe against UK 1 for 3, 0 for 1 3pt, 5 points
                                Kobe against aregentina(best game) 6 for 12, 3 for 7 3pt, 18 points
                                Kobe against Spain 2 for 3, 0-0 3pt, 6 points

                                Kobe field goal percentage 40% 3pt 27% Those aren't great numbers... I suggest less minutes or Him taking less three point shots...

                                On the flip side

                                Lebron and Durant have both been efficient scorers

                                And if you think I'm making this up I'll add the box scores





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