NBA Lockout and Collective Bargaining Agreement Discussion

[ProfessaPackMan]

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Question: Would you prefer to see guys like Lebron, Wade, Durant, Duhwight, etc involved in these "talks" or it doesn't bother you either way?

[DukeC]

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Question: Would you prefer to see guys like Lebron, Wade, Durant, Duhwight, etc involved in these "talks" or it doesn't bother you either way?

It doesn't really bother me...because they don't have anything to gain. With Lebron and his plan to become the first billion dollar athlete I'm realtively sure he has enough money in the bank to ensure his great-great-great grandkids never have to work a day in thier life.....

Same with Wade. Durant and Dwight don't seem like the type to just squander money either. They both probably love the game too much to focus on anything other than improving thier game. Of course...this is all speculation on my part since I don't personally know either of them, but I just get that kind of vibe from them.

[Marino]

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Question: Would you prefer to see guys like Lebron, Wade, Durant, Duhwight, etc involved in these "talks" or it doesn't bother you either way?

Don't care, just get it done.

[The 24th Letter]

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Question: Would you prefer to see guys like Lebron, Wade, Durant, Duhwight, etc involved in these "talks" or it doesn't bother you either way?

Not necessarily the "talks", but as the top dogs youd like to see them involved with the union...and I know Bron and Kobe have been heavily involved....not so sure about the others guys...though it doesnt mean they havent...

[aholbert32]

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Looks like there won't be a hard cap.

http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/news?slug=aw-wojnarowski_nba_labor_meeting_092711

[ProfessaPackMan]

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The owners’ proposal on Tuesday “would still have the affects of a hard cap,” one source with knowledge of the talks said

The two sides met for a little less than two hours on Tuesday on Manhattan’s East Side, and planned to meet again on Wednesday morning. The Players Association’s economist, Kevin Murphy, didn’t attend Tuesday’s meeting, but was traveling to New York to take part in Wednesday’s session. While the owners’ proposal was a slight upgrade, it is unlikely to move union leadership.

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Are they still having the small group meetings or did their talks include the same folks from last week, which was basically every Owner and the rest of the Union?

[SuperNoVa27]

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I don't really follow this stuff but what are the chances of the NBA keeping all 82 regular season games on a scale of One to Ten?

[VanCitySportsGuy]

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I'm stunned the owners have dropped their demand for a hard cap. Now of course I need to see the rest of the offer. I'm sure the luxury tax would be a really high amount and the percentage of BRI for the players would be no more than %50 (which would save the owners a ton of money)

I don't care about pre-season games, so I don't care if all of them get cancelled. I don't even mind a shorter regular season but I don't want to see a whole season cancelled.

In terms of the media, the star of the lockout is Ken Berger from cbssports. He's the only reason I go to that website. Ken has very good contacts within the NBA and brings up good points in his articles.

[Dice]

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Not surprised the owners backed off the hard cap. However, the owners are still looking for that 50-50 BRI split(some reported less for the players) and lowering the mid-level exception to a flat $2 million. Next to the hard cap, the players acceptable BRI was no less than 51%.

To me, I've always taken those previous meeting that happened in the previous weeks with a grain of salt. This is the REAL meeting where we can hear one of the following:
- They're meeting again on Thursday(good news)
- They're going to make an announcement on a proposed deal which could be ratified(very good news)
- NBA cancels the rest of the pre-season and meet again next week(not too bad but the season probably won't start on time)

October 1st is right around the corner.

[airjoca]

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Rose says lockout unnecessary, might go abroad

"There's no reason why billionaires and millionaires should be arguing about money," he said. "There are other things in this world that we should be arguing about, but money shouldn't be the problem."

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/201....ap/index.html

Billionaires arguing with Millionaires about money, best description of the lockout so far.

[aholbert32]

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I don't really follow this stuff but what are the chances of the NBA keeping all 82 regular season games on a scale of One to Ten?

Probably 3.

[aholbert32]

Re: NBA Lockout and Collective Barganing Agreement Discussion

Not surprised the owners backed off the hard cap. However, the owners are still looking for that 50-50 BRI split(some reported less for the players) and lowering the mid-level exception to a flat $2 million. Next to the hard cap, the players acceptable BRI was no less than 51%.

To me, I've always taken those previous meeting that happened in the previous weeks with a grain of salt. This is the REAL meeting where we can hear one of the following:
- They're meeting again on Thursday(good news)
- They're going to make an announcement on a proposed deal which could be ratified(very good news)
- NBA cancels the rest of the pre-season and meet again next week(not too bad but the season probably won't start on time)

October 1st is right around the corner.

Wont meet on Thursday because of Jewish holidays.

[da ThRONe]

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Looks like there won't be a hard cap.

http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/news?slu...meeting_092711

This should come as a surprised to no one. The hard cap was a ploy by the owners. We saw this in the NFL labor situation. You add a bunch of stuff you don't really want so you can "take something off the table" in a interest to compromise. This way they can say "Hey we caved on XYZ, but we're not caving on this". When in reality they never wanted XYZ to begin with.

Imagine the Lakers, Celtics, Mavs, Magic etc trying to fit under a hard cap. It would completely shake the league up over night Stern would never allow that.

[Dice]

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Wont meet on Thursday because of Jewish holidays.

Is Rosh Hashana celebrated on Friday as well? If not, maybe they'll meet then. If so, then I'd scratch a meeting this week and hope for the best for today. October 1 is Saturday and I guess if there's no progress after today then I'm expecting the cancellation of the entire Pre-season and a delay to the regular season.

[da ThRONe]

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I'm stunned the owners have dropped their demand for a hard cap. Now of course I need to see the rest of the offer. I'm sure the luxury tax would be a really high amount and the percentage of BRI for the players would be no more than %50 (which would save the owners a ton of money)

I don't care about pre-season games, so I don't care if all of them get cancelled. I don't even mind a shorter regular season but I don't want to see a whole season cancelled.

In terms of the media, the star of the lockout is Ken Berger from cbssports. He's the only reason I go to that website. Ken has very good contacts within the NBA and brings up good points in his articles.

Why? Even if the hard cap was 65-70 milllion the top marque teams would still be handicapped. No way Stern or the big market owners would cripple those franchise.