NBA Lockout and Collective Bargaining Agreement Discussion

[da ThRONe]

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I don't see the benefit at all as a fan. A shorter season guarantees I don't see every team. A shorter season means I pay more or the same for less games (players and owners have to make that revenue up somewhere) Just because there are 30 home games instead of 42 doesn't guarantee sellouts or even more ticket sales for some teams. It just guarantees less revenue.

You or the majority of poster here may not agree, but I made a thread detailing why/how reducing games could generate more revenue.

I feel the length of the season hinders the league ability to reach it's full financial potential. More games don't equal more net gain.

[bigeastbumrush]

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Not sure if mentioned but a change to matching Restricted Free Agent offers has been lowered from 7 days to only 3 days.

[ex carrabba fan]

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Not sure if mentioned but a change to matching Restricted Free Agent offers has been lowered from 7 days to only 3 days.

Gonna make it funner!

[23]

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usat_jzillgitt Jeff Zillgitt
Attorney for players in antitrust suit v NBA asks judge to stay all proceedings, including NBA's time to respond to suit, through Dec. 9.

usat_jzillgitt Jeff Zillgitt
Letter informs judge that parties have reached tentative agreement on complaints in Minn. And league's complaint vs. Players in NY.

deepsixer3 Kate Fagan
Word out of New York is that the "trade association" is looking to begin the recertification process w/ its players as early as tonight.


SportsLawGuy Gabe Feldman
'Melo plaintiffs & NBA will let court know by 12/9 if they have finalized settlement.1 in a series of formalities to get us back to hoops.


SportsLawGuy Gabe Feldman
'Melo plaintiffs filed letter today informing judge in MN that they have "reached a tentative agreement to resolve their dispute"

sam_amick Sam Amick
For anyone wondering about progress of NBA deal being done, lawyers from both sides still working & hope to finalize settlement by Thur.

sam_amick Sam Amick
The discussion on B-list issues etc. would then begin, with a week to work through it all in time for Dec. 9 start date.

sam_amick Sam Amick
Ratification/vote would have to happen a the end of that process as well.

[WTF]

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You or the majority of poster here may not agree, but I made a thread detailing why/how reducing games could generate more revenue.

I feel the length of the season hinders the league ability to reach it's full financial potential. More games don't equal more net gain.

http://www.operationsports.com/forum...-too-many.html

And leave it there. You've been told that this is NOT the thread for that discussion.

[da ThRONe]

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http://www.operationsports.com/forum...-too-many.html

And leave it there. You've been told that this is NOT the thread for that discussion.

Wait why is this directed at me I didn't bring this up? Also I wasn't the only person discussing it.

[WTF]

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I agree. I think the league is too short sighted to see the long term finanical benefit to reducing the season. If they would cut games and make the regular season as must see as the playoffs the revenue they would make having those extra games would pale in comparison to what they could make in shorten season.

But like aholbert pointed out all they can see is the carrot in front of their faces and end up walking past an entire field of carrots.

Are you serious? Lets say the season was cut to 60 games. That basically eliminates a month and a half worth of games. First, the owners would ask for (and would be justified in receiving) salary rollbacks equal to the number of games being played. That would mean each player would lose more than 20% of their salary. A player making 5 mil would now make less than 4. You really think players wouldnt care about losing 20% of their salary.

Oh god, not this cut down the games crap again.

LOL. Its almost as if people dont fully think through their arguments. I've seen this argument several times in this forum and its ridiculous.

ThRONe, I like you, you're a pretty cool dude. That being said, please don't start this crap again man. It's not being short sighted, it's not a carrot dangling in front of them. There is simply no way in hell that the NBA will generate more revenue with a 66-60 something game season instead of the normal 82. The reasons have already been mentioned here. Just let that **** die man, cause it's not a good idea for anybody involved except maybe Timberwolves fans who don't have to watch 82 examples of bad franchise management a year this way.

My sentiments exactly

da throne destroyed the first CBA thread with this madness.

Its been explained enough not to continue doing this over and over

Wait why is this directed at me I didn't bring this up? Also I wasn't the only person discussing it.

See above. Everyone is tired of your same argument. If you want to make that argument, make it in the thread that you started, and don't bring that in here and derail this thread like you did the first CBA Thread. Aaron and 23 have both explained it time and time again, and your "fellow OS users" don't want to see it go back down that road.

That's why it was directed at you, and it stops here. Continue discussion of the CBA, minus the # of games.

[bigeastbumrush]

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Talk about a whirlwind:

Confirmed that the 2012 NBA Draft will take place on Thu. June 28, two days after scheduled Game 7 of the Finals.

[ProfessaPackMan]

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And then FA would begin on July 1(assuming this is still the same)then I like that. Keeps the NBA moving as opposed to having that week in between the time the Finals ends and the Draft begins.

[Bondgirl0072]

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Players confident new agreement will pass

http://espn.go.com/los-angeles/nba/story/_/id/7289383/nba-players-confident-new-agreement-pass

NBA schedule plan has 48 conference games

http://espn.go.com/nba/story/_/id/7287323/nba-season-run-dec-25-april-26-source-says

[King_B_Mack]

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And then FA would begin on July 1(assuming this is still the same)then I like that. Keeps the NBA moving as opposed to having that week in between the time the Finals ends and the Draft begins.

No doubt. They should do it this way every year. NBA draws out entirely too much stuff. Especially with those breaks in the playoffs.

[ProfessaPackMan]

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Some info on how trades will work:

1. It will be easier to make trades. Under the old labor agreement, the salaries of the traded players had to be within 125 percent (plus 100K) of each other. That will remain the case for taxpaying teams, but the new agreement also makes it muuuuch easier for non-tax teams to swing uneven trades. For those teams, it is 150 percent (plus 100K) of the salaries being traded, or the 100 percent of the salaries being traded plus $5 million. The limit on the amount of cash that can be included in a trade remains $3 million — but teams are now limited to trading $3 million in cash per season. So you can’t just dump $3 million into every trade as you could in the past.

2. No more wink-wink trades. Back in Feb. 2010 whn the Cavaliers acquired Antawn Jamison, they sent Zydrunas Ilgauskas to Washington in the deal to make the salaries match, then re-signed Ilgauskas 30 days after the Wizards waived him. Under the new rules, a player who is traded and then waived cannot re-sign with the team that traded him until July 1 at the earliest.

[23]

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Some info on how trades will work:

Sarver can't trade multiple players for pocket money anymore, and good also that teams can't trade guys then sign them back when waivers clear

[JohnDoe8865]

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I'm so glad the Ilgauskas rule was kept in. No more trade, waive, re-sign! Happy days! That pissed me off something fierce.

[da ThRONe]

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See above. Everyone is tired of your same argument. If you want to make that argument, make it in the thread that you started, and don't bring that in here and derail this thread like you did the first CBA Thread. Aaron and 23 have both explained it time and time again, and your "fellow OS users" don't want to see it go back down that road.

That's why it was directed at you, and it stops here. Continue discussion of the CBA, minus the # of games.

You completely missed my point, but it doesn't matter. I won't talk about the season length here even if other people do so.