NBA Lockout and Collective Bargaining Agreement Discussion

[da ThRONe]

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I think we lose at least 10-12 games. If the owners really are losing money and expect the players to give back a significant sum. As well as the players believing they should only give back a slight amount and the rest is on the owners to share revenue we will have missed games.

[ProfessaPackMan]

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I'd be shocked if they get something done in the next month here.

[Dice]

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According to all the reports, I think we'll definitely find out by the end of next week.

[ProfessaPackMan]

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The "Who's who" of NBA Owners and where they stand on this:

http://espn.go.com/blog/truehoop/post/_/id/31683/nba-owners-bargaining-positions

[clipperfan811]

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The "Who's who" of NBA Owners and where they stand on this:

http://espn.go.com/blog/truehoop/pos...ning-positions

That's definitely an interesting article.

What I don't vibe with too well is new ownership who wants to come in and make massive changes to how the system is run. Do you mean to tell me you didn't do some research before you bought in?

I say you drop the split from 57% to somewhere in the 52% range. Cut the length of deals to 3 years with possibly 3 or 4 slots for teams to resign their core players to 4 year deals with a higher max. Maybe throw in 1 franchise player slot with a 5 year deal if you must.

I wouldn't be against allowing teams to cut 1 player giving them amnesty against the cap.

As far as revenue sharing, I'm against it. I think that when you get into team ownership you need to be aware of your revenue streams. If you want to pull the money the Knicks or Lakers are pulling, wait till hell freezes over and they go on the market; until then, save up your pennies so you can afford to make a good offer when a team in that sort of market becomes available.

They should just let me negotiate the deal. I'll lay down the law!

[Kashanova]

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i think we should get a good idea by the end of next week

[da ThRONe]

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The "Who's who" of NBA Owners and where they stand on this:

http://espn.go.com/blog/truehoop/pos...ning-positions

This is another reason why I just don't see this ending before games are missed. It would require the owners to collectively put their on egos and selfish interest aside and come to a compromise. Then go to the players with said offer hope they are all on the same page and agree with their terms. This is hard enough when both side are on the same page with each other a la the NFL labor situation or lost of money isn't the main issue. This has none of those things working for it. This will get uglier before a deal is reached.

[AbdulP34]

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Doug Collins working through lockout


<cite class="source">Associated Press
</cite> PHILADELPHIA -- Amid the uncertainy that surrounds the Philadelphia 76ers, coach Doug Collins has kept some routine.
He's also maintained his optimism.
Collins concluded a week of meetings and film sessions with his staff on Friday, and more sessions like it are planned, even as the start of the NBA season is in jeopardy because of the lockout.
Collins wants to keep operations running as usual and have the Sixers raring to go whenever a labor deal is reached.

“ We're planning our season. We're getting together, we watched a lot of tape, watching a lot of things on film that we want to teach. We put together some practice plans. It was really to get together and start planning our training camp.
” <cite>-- Doug Collins</cite>

"We should be able to hit the ground running, which is exciting," he said by phone Friday.
Collins planned this week exactly as he did at this time last year when he started his first season coaching the Sixers. He's taking a weekend break to travel to Durham, N.C. for a celebration of Duke basketball (his son is an assistant on the men's team), but then it's back for more work next week.
"We're planning our season," Collins said. "We're getting together, we watched a lot of tape, watching a lot of things on film that we want to teach. We put together some practice plans. It was really to get together and start planning our training camp."
When that starts, no one knows for certain. The Sixers would usually open camp the first week of October, but the lockout has thrown a dose of confusion into the league. The two sides return to the bargaining table Tuesday, this time with more players and owners, to try and find a way to end the league's lockout and save the 2011-12 season.

http://espn.go.com/nba/story/_/id/6948481/philadelphia-76ers-doug-collins-says-business-usual-lockout

[AllStarDaDon]

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Fisher reportedly texts players and says get read for basketball.

http://www.lakersnation.com/fisher-reportedly-texts-players-saying-be-ready-for-basketball/2011/09/11/

[Altimus]

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The more positive news, the better.

As Kash mentioned, end of the week we'll know where this situation stands.

[Iman2907]

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http://espn.go.com/nba/story/_/id/6961449/nba-pay-players-190-million-underspending-salaries-source-says

Source: NBA players to get $190 million

[da ThRONe]

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http://espn.go.com/nba/story/_/id/69...es-source-says


Source: NBA players to get $190 million

I think this almost ensures we miss games. Players can hold off for a better just that much longer(not that they'll get it).

[Dice]

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Naw, the players and owners knew about this for a while. If anything, I believe that Stern and Fisher have a deal in place they just needed to sell it to their respective parties. They only thing that’s going to be a deal breaker is if Stern cannot convince majority of the owners to vote on it.

[aholbert32]

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Naw, the players and owners knew about this for a while. If anything, I believe that Stern and Fisher have a deal in place they just needed to sell it to their respective parties. They only thing that’s going to be a deal breaker is if Stern cannot convince majority of the owners to vote on it.

Exactly. They knew about this before the end of the season.

[Dice]

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Well this sucks

http://basketball.realgm.com/wiretap/215571/Players_Leave_Tuesday_Meeting_Pessimistic_Discouraged

The owners and players met on Tuesday for several hours and came away sounding less optimistic about a deal than they did last week.

Billy Hunter said that there was no progress, with the owners declining to compromise from their position. He also said that no new meetings are scheduled.

"We've advised (players) they may have to sit out half the season before we get a deal," said Hunter.

Derek Fisher said the players remain committed to negotiations.

"We're not walking way from the table," said Fisher.

Hunter says union came away "pessimistic and discouraged" by the proposal from the owners.