NBA Lockout and Collective Bargaining Agreement Discussion

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Dude Donald Sterling makes a huge profit just because he's in Los Angeles

On top of that the NBA is probably just a writeoff for him anyway since he's a huge real estate guy out here

He's bum owner who reaps tons of benefits because of the market he's in..period

[aholbert32]

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Well, I'm just going by what Grant Hill said. If you want to call him a liar, then fine.

http://msn.foxsports.com/nba/story/g...njuries-042711

I'll call him a liar and what you posted doesnt really dispute what I said. He was injured in Detroit (I went to a playoff game in Atlanta when he played hurt). He signs with Orlando in August. He plays right before training camp.

Even if you've "never been hurt", your doctor will tell you when you will be healthy to play. I find it hard to believe that his doctor would conduct surgery on his ankle and not tell him then that you need to be off his ankle until December.

Remember the surgery was in May and he didnt sign until August. You are telling me that a doctor would not give his instructions to the player and would wait 3 mos and then forward those instructions to the team? Come on man.

[yankeesgiants]

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Is that not what 50-51% of the BRI means?

Owning an NBA team just isn't a wise investment in the first place. Dudes go in knowing they're going to lose money...and still buy it anyway....then complain that thier losing money? You knew what the current CBA was. You knew the revenue split...why invest/own a team when you know it's going to take years to even afford for the investment to pay off.

Because for most owners (well...the old ones anyway, not the new ones), owning an NBA team is a hobby (that just so happens to make them money...20 years later). The loss of money is to be expected. Just like videogaming is a hobby. We're paying 60 bucks a pop (Or for Amazon 30-45) to play videogames. We don't profit from that, but it gives us enjoyment. The only way we'd make money would be if we participated in tournaments/professional gaming.

Going back to teh team thing, if you're not in a major market, you're just not going to make money. Especially if that state/city already has an NFL team. The NFL makes money because it is America's sport. It is completely our own, and we treat it like our firstborn son. The firstborn gets all our support while the others (NHL, MLB,NBA) are afterthoughts.

The easiest way to explain BRI is if we have a dollar. The players currently get 0.57 cents of every dollar while the owners get 0.43 cents of every dollar

[Dice]

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I'll call him a liar and what you posted doesnt really dispute what I said. He was injured in Detroit (I went to a playoff game in Atlanta when he played hurt). He signs with Orlando in August. He plays right before training camp.

Even if you've "never been hurt", your doctor will tell you when you will be healthy to play. I find it hard to believe that his doctor would conduct surgery on his ankle and not tell him then that you need to be off his ankle until December.

Remember the surgery was in May and he didnt sign until August. You are telling me that a doctor would not give his instructions to the player and would wait 3 mos and then forward those instructions to the team? Come on man.

OK. Fair enough. If you think he’s a liar, then that’s fine. I think he might be on to something when he says that the Orlando doctors cleared him to play BUT the surgeon(who may not work for the organization) said he should be off his feet at least until December. I don’t know. I’m no doctor myself BUT if the surgeon suggest no playing basketball for 4-5 month, I’d heed that warning.

And whether he got injured in Detroit or not is not the point. The point is it was the Magic who played him on a bum ankle and ruined his career. At least according to what he says. BUT if you don’t believe him, then fine.

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I'll call him a liar and what you posted doesnt really dispute what I said. He was injured in Detroit (I went to a playoff game in Atlanta when he played hurt). He signs with Orlando in August. He plays right before training camp.

Even if you've "never been hurt", your doctor will tell you when you will be healthy to play. I find it hard to believe that his doctor would conduct surgery on his ankle and not tell him then that you need to be off his ankle until December.

Remember the surgery was in May and he didnt sign until August. You are telling me that a doctor would not give his instructions to the player and would wait 3 mos and then forward those instructions to the team? Come on man.

Yeah thats bogus... that dude got injured in Det.. There are some things you never forget and that was one of them, especially the kind of player he was

Point is, ORL got robbed, and Grant Hill wasnt a great example to use one bit

[DukeC]

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50% of the BRI means they take in 50% of the basketball related income. That doesn't mean that all teams will break even if it is at 50%.

As for the team thing, teams in baseball make money because of revenue sharing. Teams in the NHL make money because of revenue sharing. Team in the NBA don't make money because they do not have revenue sharing.

Were the owners seriously considering 50% anyway? Or was that just a number Stern threw out there? Why would Stern suggest that? Neither the Owners nor the Players were going to agree to that. The owners because they could afford not to negotiate, and the players because they still want the chance to get max deals worth over $100 million dollars. Not that I blame the players for wanting that, and it should be an option for them to make that much. The owners should just agree to themselves not to cross that line.

Are you saying the owners would like to implement revenue sharing? What's stopping them from doing it? Themselves?

[OSUFan_88]

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Were the owners seriously considering 50% anyway? Or was that just a number Stern threw out there? Why would Stern suggest that? Neither the Owners nor the Players were going to agree to that. The owners because they could afford not to negotiate, and the players because they still want the chance to get max deals worth over $100 million dollars. Not that I blame the players for wanting that, and it should be an option for them to make that much. The owners should just agree to themselves not to cross that line.

I believe the that Stern suggested it and the players said they would not go under 53% because they never have. At least, that's what I remember Fisher saying.

Are you saying the owners would like to implement revenue sharing? What's stopping them from doing it? Themselves?

More than likely and more than likely.

Still, they'd need more profits if they want to implement revenue sharing. It wouldn't work if everyone is losing money.

[Dice]

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I thought folks would get a kick out of this snippet from WoJo's column

This wasn’t an idea out of the union’s smartest PR mind, Dan Wasserman, but one of the consulting pockets of the Players Association that do nothing but waste the players’ dues. Before you know it, there was Kenyon Martin calling for his “haters” to die of “full-blown AIDS,” and inviting everyone else giving him a hard time on Twitter to send along a home address, so he could come to your house and “kick your ***.”

Hey Matrix, have you provided Martin with you address yet?

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hmmm... Didn't Kmart make a similar type joke of Alonso Mourning's kidney disease??

He ought to watch that stuff

[TheMatrix31]

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I thought folks would get a kick out of this snippet from WoJo's column


Hey Matrix, have you provided Martin with you address yet?

I have insulted him multiple times before, lol. I hope that guy gets stranded in China forever.

[Dice]

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hmmm... Didn't Kmart make a similar type joke of Alonso Mourning's kidney disease??

He ought to watch that stuff

I’m pretty sure it’s all out of ignorance. As with most, we’ll have to excuse it because he doesn’t know what he’s saying. Call it reason of insanity. Or Stupidity.

This is the type of leadership the union is consulting the players on. Sending them straight to labor hell. I’ve got no problem with people telling me that the #StandUnite thing was a dumb idea. Because they’re right.

I just hate to see one side loose over sheer ignorance.

[jvalverde88]

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A guy with lips tattooed on his neck shouldn't be talking about kicking people's ***.

[ProfessaPackMan]

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LOL @ K-Mart.

Stuff like that is part of the reason I'm not mad there's a lockout. Because it gives a chance for idiots like him to say stupid stuff like that.

First Melo and his Ali Comparison and now this. So who's gonna be the first player to compare this to fighting in War? Because you know it's coming

I just hate to see one side loose over sheer ignorance.

Oh that Train has left the station already my man.

[TheMatrix31]

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At least no one's compared themselves to slaves just yet like Adrian Peterson did.

But oh, it's coming. It's...coming.

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At least no one's compared themselves to slaves just yet like Adrian Peterson did.

But oh, it's coming. It's...coming.

Thats only cause Sheed is retired... He's already done that