Over the next 10 years..Who will be better??

[jzero]

Re: Over the next 10 years..Who will be better??

How? Comparing them two is a lot more realistic than comparing Wall to Rose.

Rose is stronger, quicker and more explosive than Wall. All of which is fact. I can never see John Wall average 25 points a game. That's not his game. He's a lesser version of Chris Paul/Rajon Rondo combined. Can score if given the opportunity to do so but is at his best when he is getting his team involved.

Wall has a lot of work to do, to even hold Rose's jock strap.

Also, little note, Rose is also still getting better. If that's not scary, I don't know what is.

lol take it easy
no1's scared of rose
we all saw what he did in last years conference finals
gee some people have a realllyyy short memory

[redsrule]

Re: Over the next 10 years..Who will be better??

John Wall, I don't think it will be close.

[1Rose]

Re: Over the next 10 years..Who will be better??

lol take it easy
no1's scared of rose
we all saw what he did in last years conference finals
gee some people have a realllyyy short memory

They're not? Apparently you didn't watch any of last season. smh

No my memory still is pretty fresh, showed how much they rely on Rose and how limited they are elsewhere. That's not Rose's fault.

Guess you didn't watch the first two series. Your memory must be REALLY short.

[DukeC]

Re: Over the next 10 years..Who will be better??

You mean when Rose was throwing up bricks from 3?

Anyways, given the opputurnity I'd end up picking either Wall or Irving over Rose.

Irving intrigues me. He plays really smooth and seems like he's in control at all times. Reminds me of Paul when controlling the offense and the fluidity with which he scores reminds me of Paul Pierce. He doesn't really seem fast, or necassarily strong, but he's still able to score almost effortlessly.

Wall is perhaps the most physically gifted player we have in the league aside from Lebron in terms of his skill set. I have heard someone say that he's grown an inch and a half. Which would put him at 6'5-6'6. Essientially...you have a faster Tyreke Evans. I can see Wall easily averaging 25, 5, and 8 every season. Add on 2-3 steals a game and you have a perrenial all star on your hands.

Rose is just a bigger Allen Iverson at this point in his career. Until he gets some help he's always going to have to score...which doesn't help since his vision at this point is average to below average. He doesn't have anyone he can consistently rely on..so his mentality right now is to score. Once you get in that mindset...it's hard to get out of.

[1Rose]

Re: Over the next 10 years..Who will be better??

No, I'm talking about the game winners he hit against the Pacers. Plural. I don't think I even need to mention his Game 1.

Or the the 30ppg he averaged against the Hawks.

So were going to knock a guy because his team limits him on what he is available to do? Yeah his mentality is to score and still averaged near 8 assists per game.

Not sure how you can say Irving is able to score effortlessly when he hasn't even played a game in the NBA. Sorry but it's not going to come so easy on the next level and comparing him to Paul Pierce is blasphemous.

[J-RO]

Re: Over the next 10 years..Who will be better??

I mean, can we plug in Tyreke Evans into this arguement??

[wwharton]

Re: Over the next 10 years..Who will be better??

Who compared anyone here to Paul Pierce?

Tyreke isn't a PG.

[J-RO]

Re: Over the next 10 years..Who will be better??

He's moving to PG this year. He already is averaging 19.1ppg 5.7apg 5.1rpg

[wwharton]

Re: Over the next 10 years..Who will be better??

He's moving to PG this year. He already is averaging 19.1ppg 5.7apg 5.1rpg

It's not about his average, it's about his position. I'd have to actually see him as a PG before I compared him to them (but one could say the same thing about Irving).

[DukeC]

Re: Over the next 10 years..Who will be better??

No, I'm talking about the game winners he hit against the Pacers. Plural. I don't think I even need to mention his Game 1.

Or the the 30ppg he averaged against the Hawks.

So were going to knock a guy because his team limits him on what he is available to do? Yeah his mentality is to score and still averaged near 8 assists per game.

Not sure how you can say Irving is able to score effortlessly when he hasn't even played a game in the NBA. Sorry but it's not going to come so easy on the next level and comparing him to Paul Pierce is blasphemous.

I never knocked D-Rose. When did that happen? My opinion was that he didn't have elite vision. That's all. I'm not going to sit there and praise him while ignoring his faults.

Did I compare what Irving did in college to what he's going to do in the NBA? No, I stated what I felt when he played in college. My opnion was that his game, in terms of scoring, was similiar to Paul Pierce's, methodical and smooth. He doesn't score in bursts, like Rose, or John Wall. Which I why I made the comparison to Paul Pierce. I never stated anything about him scoring in the NBA. Stop getting butthurt because I happened to state what I believe to be one of Rose's fault. And he's not an effeicient 3 point shooter, which was what I was alluding to.

The same argument could be made for AI. AI averaged 30 and 8 during the 04-05 season. Link: http://www.basketball-reference.com/...iversal01.html Are we suddenly going to remember him as a good passer (which he was when he wanted to pass)? No, we generally remember him as a ball-hog...and he was. All I stated was that in thier respective situations (No one to pass to, having to score to keep them in it)...AI and D-Rose are similiar, and they are.

[jzero]

Re: Over the next 10 years..Who will be better??

They're not? Apparently you didn't watch any of last season. smh

No my memory still is pretty fresh, showed how much they rely on Rose and how limited they are elsewhere. That's not Rose's fault.

Guess you didn't watch the first two series. Your memory must be REALLY short.

i did watch the first two series
and i followed him closely all season
he was and is overrated
im not saying wall is definitely gonna be better, but you cant say for certain that rose is going to be better when its all said and done
btw wana recite for me rose's 4th quarter shooting percentage in the final series? 9.8 LOL
his overall fg% in the playoffs? a pathetic .396%
rose is overrated and the most underwhelming mvp since the dawn of time


OH and he also lost..big time

[mikenoob]

Re: Over the next 10 years..Who will be better??

I had to give Kyrie some love in the voting, but honestly I'd say Derrick Rose.

[1Rose]

Re: Over the next 10 years..Who will be better??

i did watch the first two series

Once again obviously not.

and i followed him closely all season

From your assessment, you clearly didn't.

he was and is overrated

Carried a team on his back to the best record in basketball while his team was riddled with injuries. Top 10 in points and assists (only player) You're right. Overrated

btw wana recite for me rose's 4th quarter shooting percentage in the final series? 9.8 LOL

BTW, want to recite for me the other threats on the floor in the final series? LOL Again, guess you missed the first two series.

rose is overrated and the most underwhelming mvp since the dawn of time

You must be pretty new to the world then.

OH and he also lost..big time

What?

[jzero]

Re: Over the next 10 years..Who will be better??

Once again obviously not.


From your assessment, you clearly didn't.


Carried a team on his back to the best record in basketball while his team was riddled with injuries. Top 10 in points and assists (only player) You're right. Overrated


BTW, want to recite for me the other threats on the floor in the final series? LOL Again, guess you missed the first two series.



You must be pretty new to the world then.



What?

are you telling me boozer, deng, korver, noah and gibson can't score
oh and clearly you don't remember the drubbing you received at the hands of the heat
4-1
pathetic performance by rose and co.

[1Rose]

Re: Over the next 10 years..Who will be better??

are you telling me boozer, deng, korver, noah and gibson can't score

Every player besides Rose saw a drop in their PPG in the playoffs. I don't need to tell you anything if you watched the games.

oh and clearly you don't remember the drubbing you received at the hands of the heat
4-1

You're right. Every game close going into the 4th quarter and a final margin of +11 pts for the Heat for 5 games. Yea, a real drubbing.

pathetic performance by rose and co.

Smfh. Just...go somewhere.

This isn't a playoff discussion thread.