Boston/Dallas Depth Charts

[Dynasty4Kobe]

Re: Boston/Dallas Depth Charts

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fowess said:
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texdirtbag said:
Who does have an answer for Shaq or Duncan?

The Mavs improved the strength of their team. Their weakness was going to be a weakness, regardless. Do you think Raef can hold Shaq or Duncan?

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Exactly. Why even bother to try and have an answer for Shaq or Duncanm, which would cost them to lose some of their firepower? If this were the 90s when Ewing, Shaq, Hakeem, Zo, etc. all dominated, then it would be a different story. But there are more good 4's than 5's now. I think this is how the league is going to look 5 years down the road especially with the European big men coming over and having the ball skills of 1's and 2's.

I think the Lakers and Spurs have to worry moreabout how will they stop Nash, Finley, 'Toine, 'Tawn, and Dirk at the same time and especially in the 4th quarter. I would be a lot more scared to guard all five of them than just Shaq. Shaq can get in foul trouble, but all 5 of them won't all be on the bench due to foul trouble.

God that's gonna be one scary fast break. Who do you guard? You might as well give up a lay-up because if the fast break defense stops any penetration, the mavs can just swing it back outside to any of the trailers and then rain 3s down on them.

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Payton is a great defender and he can stick Nash. Kobe is another great defender and can give Finly problems. Malone is a power house, so Jamison and Walker will need to settle for the outside shot, and Walker can be very streaky. The only problem is Nowitzki cuz he can go outside with Shaq, but if he has a bad shooting night, than its over for them. And for the mavs its pretty much one and out (no second chance opp.) unless Fortson is in there

[SoMiss2000]

Re: Boston/Dallas Depth Charts

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fowess said:
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texdirtbag said:
Who does have an answer for Shaq or Duncan?

The Mavs improved the strength of their team. Their weakness was going to be a weakness, regardless. Do you think Raef can hold Shaq or Duncan?

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Exactly. Why even bother to try and have an answer for Shaq or Duncanm, which would cost them to lose some of their firepower? If this were the 90s when Ewing, Shaq, Hakeem, Zo, etc. all dominated, then it would be a different story. But there are more good 4's than 5's now. I think this is how the league is going to look 5 years down the road especially with the European big men coming over and having the ball skills of 1's and 2's.

I think the Lakers and Spurs have to worry moreabout how will they stop Nash, Finley, 'Toine, 'Tawn, and Dirk at the same time and especially in the 4th quarter. I would be a lot more scared to guard all five of them than just Shaq. Shaq can get in foul trouble, but all 5 of them won't all be on the bench due to foul trouble.

God that's gonna be one scary fast break. Who do you guard? You might as well give up a lay-up because if the fast break defense stops any penetration, the mavs can just swing it back outside to any of the trailers and then rain 3s down on them.

<hr /></blockquote><font class="post">They do need that inside presence still. Those shots aren't going to be falling every nite. They have nothing to fall back on. Last year, the Mavs proved to be a one trick pony. If the shot didn't fall, they struggled. We've added more fire power but we'll just have to wait to see how it works out. I also agree, they're way past trying to find an answer to Shaq or Duncan because that answer isn't out there.

[SoMiss2000]

Re: Boston/Dallas Depth Charts

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fowess said:
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texdirtbag said:
Who does have an answer for Shaq or Duncan?

The Mavs improved the strength of their team. Their weakness was going to be a weakness, regardless. Do you think Raef can hold Shaq or Duncan?

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Exactly. Why even bother to try and have an answer for Shaq or Duncanm, which would cost them to lose some of their firepower? If this were the 90s when Ewing, Shaq, Hakeem, Zo, etc. all dominated, then it would be a different story. But there are more good 4's than 5's now. I think this is how the league is going to look 5 years down the road especially with the European big men coming over and having the ball skills of 1's and 2's.

I think the Lakers and Spurs have to worry moreabout how will they stop Nash, Finley, 'Toine, 'Tawn, and Dirk at the same time and especially in the 4th quarter. I would be a lot more scared to guard all five of them than just Shaq. Shaq can get in foul trouble, but all 5 of them won't all be on the bench due to foul trouble.

God that's gonna be one scary fast break. Who do you guard? You might as well give up a lay-up because if the fast break defense stops any penetration, the mavs can just swing it back outside to any of the trailers and then rain 3s down on them.

<hr /></blockquote><font class="post">They do need that inside presence still. Those shots aren't going to be falling every nite. They have nothing to fall back on. Last year, the Mavs proved to be a one trick pony. If the shot didn't fall, they struggled. We've added more fire power but we'll just have to wait to see how it works out. I also agree, they're way past trying to find an answer to Shaq or Duncan because that answer isn't out there.

[SoMiss2000]

Re: Boston/Dallas Depth Charts

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fowess said:
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texdirtbag said:
Who does have an answer for Shaq or Duncan?

The Mavs improved the strength of their team. Their weakness was going to be a weakness, regardless. Do you think Raef can hold Shaq or Duncan?

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Exactly. Why even bother to try and have an answer for Shaq or Duncanm, which would cost them to lose some of their firepower? If this were the 90s when Ewing, Shaq, Hakeem, Zo, etc. all dominated, then it would be a different story. But there are more good 4's than 5's now. I think this is how the league is going to look 5 years down the road especially with the European big men coming over and having the ball skills of 1's and 2's.

I think the Lakers and Spurs have to worry moreabout how will they stop Nash, Finley, 'Toine, 'Tawn, and Dirk at the same time and especially in the 4th quarter. I would be a lot more scared to guard all five of them than just Shaq. Shaq can get in foul trouble, but all 5 of them won't all be on the bench due to foul trouble.

God that's gonna be one scary fast break. Who do you guard? You might as well give up a lay-up because if the fast break defense stops any penetration, the mavs can just swing it back outside to any of the trailers and then rain 3s down on them.

<hr /></blockquote><font class="post">They do need that inside presence still. Those shots aren't going to be falling every nite. They have nothing to fall back on. Last year, the Mavs proved to be a one trick pony. If the shot didn't fall, they struggled. We've added more fire power but we'll just have to wait to see how it works out. I also agree, they're way past trying to find an answer to Shaq or Duncan because that answer isn't out there.

[fowess]

Re: Boston/Dallas Depth Charts

Great defenders still get scored on.

If the Mavs move the ball with any sort of efficiency, they should have no problem with anyone.

And like last year, they do go on droughts. What team doesn't? But can any team break out of a shooting slump like the Mavs did and can still do? Nope. Even the stacked Lakers and T'Wolves line-ups will not be as potent as this Mavs line-up (but those two teams can play defense). Just too much firepower for them all to be in a slump unless they just played 5 games in 6 nights or something.

The only way to beat the Mavs is to outgun them because there is no way they're gonna be shut down completely.

[fowess]

Re: Boston/Dallas Depth Charts

Great defenders still get scored on.

If the Mavs move the ball with any sort of efficiency, they should have no problem with anyone.

And like last year, they do go on droughts. What team doesn't? But can any team break out of a shooting slump like the Mavs did and can still do? Nope. Even the stacked Lakers and T'Wolves line-ups will not be as potent as this Mavs line-up (but those two teams can play defense). Just too much firepower for them all to be in a slump unless they just played 5 games in 6 nights or something.

The only way to beat the Mavs is to outgun them because there is no way they're gonna be shut down completely.

[fowess]

Re: Boston/Dallas Depth Charts

Great defenders still get scored on.

If the Mavs move the ball with any sort of efficiency, they should have no problem with anyone.

And like last year, they do go on droughts. What team doesn't? But can any team break out of a shooting slump like the Mavs did and can still do? Nope. Even the stacked Lakers and T'Wolves line-ups will not be as potent as this Mavs line-up (but those two teams can play defense). Just too much firepower for them all to be in a slump unless they just played 5 games in 6 nights or something.

The only way to beat the Mavs is to outgun them because there is no way they're gonna be shut down completely.

[ShaKobe]

Re: Boston/Dallas Depth Charts

The Mavs do look pretty damn scary. They have guys that can score at any time.

The other teams are no slouches either tho. The Lakers have GP, Malone, Kobe, AND Shaq. So it's not just stopping Shaq on the Lakers anymore. If you double down on any of those guys, one of the other 3 will score, or pass and then score. Their offense is pretty potent also. And their defense is going to be a ton better than the Mavs.

The TWolves look pretty good offensively too. Cassell will score a heap. As will Spree, back at his more natural 2 spot. Wally can shoot the lights out when he's feeling it. KG. . nuff said. And Kandi, well, I'm not too big on him, but he does have that hook shot of his. Pretty much his only shot. But all those guys have put up numbers in their careers, and they play defense too.

I dunno, but to me, you can't win it all by just scoring a lot. You pretty much just hope that the other team doesn't score as much.

The Mavs will probably get up to about 60 wins again this year tho.

Inside games always beat outside games.

[ShaKobe]

Re: Boston/Dallas Depth Charts

The Mavs do look pretty damn scary. They have guys that can score at any time.

The other teams are no slouches either tho. The Lakers have GP, Malone, Kobe, AND Shaq. So it's not just stopping Shaq on the Lakers anymore. If you double down on any of those guys, one of the other 3 will score, or pass and then score. Their offense is pretty potent also. And their defense is going to be a ton better than the Mavs.

The TWolves look pretty good offensively too. Cassell will score a heap. As will Spree, back at his more natural 2 spot. Wally can shoot the lights out when he's feeling it. KG. . nuff said. And Kandi, well, I'm not too big on him, but he does have that hook shot of his. Pretty much his only shot. But all those guys have put up numbers in their careers, and they play defense too.

I dunno, but to me, you can't win it all by just scoring a lot. You pretty much just hope that the other team doesn't score as much.

The Mavs will probably get up to about 60 wins again this year tho.

Inside games always beat outside games.

[ShaKobe]

Re: Boston/Dallas Depth Charts

The Mavs do look pretty damn scary. They have guys that can score at any time.

The other teams are no slouches either tho. The Lakers have GP, Malone, Kobe, AND Shaq. So it's not just stopping Shaq on the Lakers anymore. If you double down on any of those guys, one of the other 3 will score, or pass and then score. Their offense is pretty potent also. And their defense is going to be a ton better than the Mavs.

The TWolves look pretty good offensively too. Cassell will score a heap. As will Spree, back at his more natural 2 spot. Wally can shoot the lights out when he's feeling it. KG. . nuff said. And Kandi, well, I'm not too big on him, but he does have that hook shot of his. Pretty much his only shot. But all those guys have put up numbers in their careers, and they play defense too.

I dunno, but to me, you can't win it all by just scoring a lot. You pretty much just hope that the other team doesn't score as much.

The Mavs will probably get up to about 60 wins again this year tho.

Inside games always beat outside games.

[SoMiss2000]

Re: Boston/Dallas Depth Charts

We'll see what Malone actually has left being that he won't be running pick and roll every time down the floor.

[SoMiss2000]

Re: Boston/Dallas Depth Charts

We'll see what Malone actually has left being that he won't be running pick and roll every time down the floor.

[SoMiss2000]

Re: Boston/Dallas Depth Charts

We'll see what Malone actually has left being that he won't be running pick and roll every time down the floor.

[ShaKobe]

Re: Boston/Dallas Depth Charts

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SoMiss2000 said:
We'll see what Malone actually has left being that he won't be running pick and roll every time down the floor.

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Ya, but he doesn't need to now. He just needs to hit that 13-15 ft shot after Shaq passes him the ball from the double down low. Or he needs to grab some weak side boards for some put backs. Malone is in a totally different situation than he has ever been in his pro career. I think he'll be fine.

[ShaKobe]

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SoMiss2000 said:
We'll see what Malone actually has left being that he won't be running pick and roll every time down the floor.

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Ya, but he doesn't need to now. He just needs to hit that 13-15 ft shot after Shaq passes him the ball from the double down low. Or he needs to grab some weak side boards for some put backs. Malone is in a totally different situation than he has ever been in his pro career. I think he'll be fine.