Official POST-LOCKOUT Player Movement Thread (Trades, FAs, etc)

**TheMatrix31** · 12-09-2011, 12:38 AM

Originally posted by Drewski

I know everyone hates ESPN but I agree here with Adande.

Dude, it's not about the Hornets or their haul.

**SuperNoVa27** · 12-09-2011, 12:41 AM

Re: Official POST-LOCKOUT Player Movement Thread (Trades, FAs, etc)

Originally posted by TheMatrix31

I don't have to meet someone to judge how the present themselves. I stand by my comments.

What has Paul done then, to be classified as a Primadonna Punk? Showing distaste with a team? Showing distaste after the trade he's been asking for was vetoed? Showing emotion? Is he supposed to just stand there and take it? Nothing was wrong about how CP3 carried himself. However, you are entitled to your opinion.

So I guess it's whatever...

**ProfessaPackMan** · 12-09-2011, 12:43 AM

Re: Official POST-LOCKOUT Player Movement Thread (Trades, FAs, etc)

Originally posted by aholbert32

Conflict of interest/Violation of Labor Laws.

He has some decent facts:

- League office made it clear that Demps could control and make final decision on all transactions.

- Demps was satisfied with the trade and was willing to proceed.

- Stern has not shown that a majority of owners were against this trade.

- Other 28 owners have a clear conflict of interest to prevent another team to add a star player.

And we both know that they(Stern)would have no problem proving either of those.

So yeah, he'd have a case but not a very strong one.

**ProfessaPackMan** · 12-09-2011, 12:44 AM

Re: Official POST-LOCKOUT Player Movement Thread (Trades, FAs, etc)

Originally posted by Drewski

I know everyone hates ESPN but I agree here with Adande.

Except it has nothing to do with "assets" other wise, you think the league would approve the Nuggets letting Melo force his way to NY, the way he did?

**a_maz_ing** · 12-09-2011, 12:46 AM

Re: Official POST-LOCKOUT Player Movement Thread (Trades, FAs, etc)

Originally posted by 1Rose

I agree. 90% of them are primadonnas.

Dwight doesn't like cold weather? Exactly.

Exactly what???

Sometimes I wish that basketball had a hard cap just so when the Lakers still are consistently great, I won't have to hear "well they only win because they can outspend everyone!!!"
Seriously, I'm not saying having all that cash doesn't help us out, but what about the other top 10 tv markets that don't do jack??
New York is probably the biggest market, and they don't have anywhere near a great franchise history as LA. Chicago is the 3rd biggest market, and really only had the Jordan era and now the Rose era.
Here is the top 10 list:
New york
LA
Chicago
Phildelphia
Dallas
San francisco
Boston
Atlanta
Washington DC
Houston

As you can see there are plenty of other big market teams that don't consistently win, so can we stop saying big market teams always win? Just say LA always win.

FYI, all those teams but Houston have at least 2% of the U.S. tv homes.

EDIT: This isn't necessarily directed at anyone on this board, just a general thing i wanted to say.

**OSUFan_88** · 12-09-2011, 12:46 AM

Re: Official POST-LOCKOUT Player Movement Thread (Trades, FAs, etc)

The only thing a conflict of interest would do is remove the NBA from controlling the Hornets and put it in the hands of a court, I do believe.

Either way, this is hilarious. In the end, I'd be stunned if Stern didn't let it go through, though.

**King_B_Mack** · 12-09-2011, 12:46 AM

Re: Official POST-LOCKOUT Player Movement Thread (Trades, FAs, etc)

Originally posted by ScoobySnax

At least the Hornets would have been competitive had the trade gone through. As it stands now, they only have 6 people on their roster and two of them are named Patrick Ewing Jr. and Quincy Pondexter. That's lot of spots to fill.

Seriously? Fighting for an eight seed isn't competitive. I think we need to establish what being a competitive sports team is around here. Finishing at .500 or around .490-.480 every year isn't competition, it's being fodder for good teams. If the goal in the NBA is winning championships, then being satisfied with what they got is a big time fail.

Originally posted by Drewski

I know everyone hates ESPN but I agree here with Adande.

Really dude? Adande? The biggest LA homer at ESPN next to Plaschke.

**aholbert32** · 12-09-2011, 12:46 AM

Re: Official POST-LOCKOUT Player Movement Thread (Trades, FAs, etc)

Originally posted by ProfessaPackMan

And we both know that they(Stern)would have no problem proving either of those.

So yeah, he'd have a case but not a very strong one.

He'd have a tough time with the Demps/Conflict of Interest claim. Again the NBA was clear that Demps would make all of the basketball decisions. Said it several times since last year. Never stated that it had veto power.

**Drewski** · 12-09-2011, 12:47 AM

Re: Official POST-LOCKOUT Player Movement Thread (Trades, FAs, etc)

Originally posted by ProfessaPackMan

Except it has nothing to do with "assets" other wise, you think the league would approve the Nuggets letting Melo force his way to NY, the way he did?

League has no say.

Point is NO received probably as much value as they could have. I dont see a scenario where they get more than what they were going to. Only hurts NO. Like I said, CP3 is going to walk in free agency then and when they dont receive any compensation they can finally do what they've been itching to do for so long - contract New Orleans.

**aholbert32** · 12-09-2011, 12:47 AM

Re: Official POST-LOCKOUT Player Movement Thread (Trades, FAs, etc)

Originally posted by OSUFan_88

The only thing a conflict of interest would do is remove the NBA from controlling the Hornets and put it in the hands of a court, I do believe.

Either way, this is hilarious. In the end, I'd be stunned if Stern didn't let it go through, though.

Not saying its a good case but its enough to force Stern's hand especially if Paul refuses to report.

**Drewski** · 12-09-2011, 12:48 AM

Re: Official POST-LOCKOUT Player Movement Thread (Trades, FAs, etc)

Originally posted by King_B_Mack

Really dude? Adande? The biggest LA homer at ESPN next to Plaschke.

That quote had nothing to do with LA, what's your point?

**Drewski** · 12-09-2011, 12:49 AM

Re: Official POST-LOCKOUT Player Movement Thread (Trades, FAs, etc)

Originally posted by King_B_Mack

Seriously? Fighting for an eight seed isn't competitive. I think we need to establish what being a competitive sports team is around here. Finishing at .500 or around .490-.480 every year isn't competition, it's being fodder for good teams. If the goal in the NBA is winning championships, then being satisfied with what they got is a big time fail.
.

Who are the Grizzlies for 500 Alex.

**TheMatrix31** · 12-09-2011, 12:49 AM

Originally posted by SuperNoVa27

What has Paul done then, to be classified as a Primadonna Punk? Showing distaste with a team? Showing distaste after the trade he's been asking for was vetoed? Showing emotion? Is he supposed to just stand there and take it? Nothing was wrong about how CP3 carried himself. However, you are entitled to your opinion.

So I guess it's whatever...

Just the vibe I've gotten from him in the time I've watched his career. Flopping, whiny. Competitive but somewhat dirty. I remember there were a couple incidents, just can't recall them now. And with this whole setup recently with NY and now with Dwight and then acting like a spoiled brat when it doesn't happen, yeah I definitely am entitled to feel this way about him.

Then again, my favorite point guard has been with his team through thick and thin, poor management and good management, roster overhauls, and anything else you can think of and he's handled it with class, grace, and loyalty all the way through. Guess I've come to expect more out of the people I can root for.

**OSUFan_88** · 12-09-2011, 12:50 AM

Re: Official POST-LOCKOUT Player Movement Thread (Trades, FAs, etc)

Originally posted by aholbert32

Not saying its a good case but its enough to force Stern's hand especially if Paul refuses to report.

I doubt it. It would be a legal battle that would probably last about a quarter of the season. If Paul is willing to sit out half the season for this, then God speed to him.

**ProfessaPackMan** · 12-09-2011, 12:51 AM

Re: Official POST-LOCKOUT Player Movement Thread (Trades, FAs, etc)

Originally posted by Drewski

League has no say.

Point is NO received probably as much value as they could have. I dont see a scenario where they get more than what they were going to. Only hurts NO. Like I said, CP3 is going to walk in free agency then and when they dont receive any compensation they can finally do what they've been itching to do for so long - contract New Orleans.

When 1/29th of the League has a say(which is what the League is basically made of aside from the players)they really do. So therefore, if 15 Owners don't like the deal, then too bad and honestly it shouldn't have even got to this point if they knew that.

Again, if they let NO do this, it goes against EVERYTHING they(Owners)locked out the players for aside from money, as ridiculous(depending on which side you were on during the Lockout)as it sounds.

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