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[The 24th Letter]

You think PP's form is that bad?

I think it's pretty decent, slow as hell, but pretty good considering that when he came into the league he was purely a slasher. His footwork IMO is/was second best to Kobe's. I saw a lot of him in college and he's a player who improved over his career, must have put some time in.

Wall's shot will improve WHEN he slows down and learns to play at different speeds.

Well for one, he seems to have a couple different forms depending on what he's doing...his set shot is mainly what I'm speaking on though...not what you would call fundamentally sound...but it works for him....

Remember how he used to shoot free throws? I think he changed about 2 years ago...it was ugh....but he's always been a good FT shooter as well...he just has that shooters touch..

EDIT: Found a vid of his old form.

http://youtu.be/1BoPsBp9PEA

Not sure why that didn't embed

[bigeastbumrush]

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Evan Turner worked with Herb Magee (a shooting savant), last summer and his jumper didn't significantly improve.

And I commend him for trying to work on a deficiency in his game.

Shaq had damn near every FT guru come in a try to help him.

Should he not have worked with them because he never was going to shoot 70%? IMO if he was serious about his craft..why not try and work on it?

[ProfessaPackMan]

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Wall has also been doing that as well, FWIW.

[phenom1990]

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And I commend him for trying to work on a deficiency in his game.

Shaq had damn near every FT guru come in a try to help him.

Should he not have worked with them because he never was going to shoot 70%? IMO if he was serious about his craft..why not try and work on it?

I never said he shouldn't have worked with anybody. My original point was about naming your point after John Wall, when I haven't heard anything bad about his work ethic. I just found it funny.

Edit: If you named it after something like Amare Stoudemire not working on his post game for a decade, I would not have said anything.

[Boltman]

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Well for one, he seems to have a couple different forms depending on what he's doing...his set shot is mainly what I'm speaking on though...not what you would call fundamentally sound...but it works for him....

Remember how he used to shoot free throws? I think he changed about 2 years ago...it was ugh....but he's always been a good FT shooter as well...he just has that shooters touch..

EDIT: Found a vid of his old form.

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There we go.

[ProfessaPackMan]

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Allen and Rondo don’t hate each other, but they’re probably not friends on Facebook, either. Their icy relationship goes back several years and it hasn’t been a secret. Rondo does a lot of things well, but hiding his emotions is not one of them. He’s also not very good at dealing with the media.

Allen understands that game quite well.

In a recent story by Jackie MacMullen of ESPN.com, former Celtics reserve Keyon Dooling said “sometimes it felt like Ray spent more time talking to the media than he did to his teammates.”

“I love Ray. I love his family. He’s a true pro,” said Dooling, a South Florida native. “But it’s unfair how this all came out. Ray had such a good relationship with all the reporters and Rondo was so quiet. So who gets all the good press?”

According to MacMullen’s story, the rift between Allen and Rondo didn’t so much divide the Celtics’
locker room as it did stunt the maturation of the team’s chemistry. Allen and Rondo never brought their differences onto the court, but those differences still had an effect.

There was an understanding throughout the organization that for the team to reach its full potential and defeat the Heat, Allen needed to go. Then Allen went to the Heat and all hell broke loose. Kevin Garnett was one of Allen’s best friends in Boston. Recently, when asked if he had communicated with Allen during training camp, Garnett said he had lost Allen’s phone number.

Allen sat down for three separate one-on-one interviews — with The Miami Herald, the South Florida Sun-Sentinel and the Palm Beach Post — on Thursday to clear the air well before the season opener.

He said the friction with Rondo began in 2009 when Rivers and Celtics president Danny Ainge proposed a trade that would have sent Allen and Rondo to Phoenix for Amare Stoudemire, Leandro Barbosa and the 14th overall pick in the 2010 draft.

Allen said that, at the time, Ainge and Rivers “didn’t get along” with Rondo.

“So, I called him and I told him, ‘hey they’re supposedly trading us to Phoenix because you and Danny and Doc don’t get along,’ ” Allen said. “ ‘So, whatever you can do.’

“So, for some reason, I guess he thought that I was … that I had something against him, or there were some issues. And I had no issues with him. I won with him.”

Now, Allen says if Rondo “had issue with me, that’s on him.”

“I have a way of going about doing my job that, I want everyone to come and play their hardest and come in and do their job and I can’t, I don’t worry myself with things I can’t control,” Allen said.

Rondo is now more beloved than ever in Boston and Allen is playing for the Celtics’ most bitter rival. If ending his career in a roar and not a whimper was Allen’s ultimate motivation for coming to Miami, he certainly has found it.

As Heat coach Erik Spoelstra likes to say, there will be noise.

Read more here: http://www.miamiherald.com/2012/10/2...#storylink=cpy

http://www.miamiherald.com/2012/10/2...ami-heats.html

[bigeastbumrush]

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Allen always struck me as an emo dude.

I remember when he was in Seattle and got into a fight with Dooling. And his battles with Vince Carter.

Come to think about it..Rondo is emo as well.

I guess there was too much estrogen in the Celtics locker room.

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But kg and pp didn't like rondo either remember

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[ex carrabba fan]

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Not even gonna waste energy being upset at a pro athlete for admitting that he has never "worked on his game" in the off-season or however you want to say it. How can anyone really blame these guys? You got countless GM's waiting to give these guys millions of dollars regardless of what they do in the summer time. Obviously not everyone is as eager to sweat and work like KD or LeBron.. No point in even thinking about it. That's not even surprising to hear.

As far as Rondo/Ray, there has to be more to that story. Ray's explanation sounds petty on Rondo's part, which is why there has to be more to it. That whole situation was never explained in detail.

As far as PP and KG, they grew to like and respect Rondo, even though they clashed when Rondo was younger. Rondo has a weird diva attitude and KG didn't like how young Rondo had the balls to stand up to KG in the locker room. I remember some story a few years back where Rondo was getting on the veterans for not going as hard as they could, but I'm sure they grew to respect him for that type of attitude.

[23]

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I know Ray's story is partially the story which is what I dont like

When athletes leave there is always a controversy created about him, or the team puts out negative media on him depending on how it ended.

Of course Ray's not going to tell the whole thing, he never will and shouldn't. The media doesn't care, they just want another story to try to create some kind of fake rivalry

[bigeastbumrush]

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I know Ray's story is partially the story which is what I dont like

When athletes leave there is always a controversy created about him, or the team puts out negative media on him depending on how it ended.

Of course Ray's not going to tell the whole thing, he never will and shouldn't. The media doesn't care, they just want another story to try to create some kind of fake rivalry

I'm just waiting for Ray Ray to call out Doc because that's where I think his true beef is.

[ex carrabba fan]

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I know Ray's story is partially the story which is what I dont like

When athletes leave there is always a controversy created about him, or the team puts out negative media on him depending on how it ended.

Of course Ray's not going to tell the whole thing, he never will and shouldn't. The media doesn't care, they just want another story to try to create some kind of fake rivalry

Point is, nobody knows the entire story, so there's not much we as fans can go off of to draw any types of conclusions on either player.

The media doesn't need to create anything fake about Miami v Boston. The key players involved have never been fond of each other and that's all there is to it.

So of course when Ray goes to the other side, the media is going to drum that up. Doesn't mean the rivalry is fake in any sense.

[23]

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It will be fake though.. and my point is the same, they're pushing a half a story out there, and only going to Ray... You're saying the same thing I am but I already forsee them for what they do. Trying to build up another rivalry story

[ex carrabba fan]

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I'm not really saying the same thing you are though. It won't be fake. The feelings that each team has for one another will not be fake. Ray and Rondo obviously have personal issues, Miami and Boston have already recently not been fond of each other, and both are primed to represent their conference. There's nothing fake about that.

Will the media dramatize the situation? Well duh. That's the time we live in.

[ProfessaPackMan]

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I know he's done a couple interviews this offseason and in each of those interviews, they've asked him about what was going on in Boston(Rondo has done the samething I believe).

I understand they ask him the questions and he doesn't want to cut corners on them...but at some point, he just needs to leave it alone and move on. But I also know this is going to be a story for a while or at least until their game on opening night.