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  • OSUFan_88
    Outback Jesus
    • Jul 2004
    • 25642

    #6406
    Re: NBA Off Topic

    Originally posted by Jdoug312
    What issue is White dealing with?
    Milking a disorder.

    I don't doubt he has anxiety disorder, but this is some bull****, Royce.
    Too Old To Game Club

    Urban Meyer is lol.

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    • 23
      yellow
      • Sep 2002
      • 66469

      #6407
      Re: NBA Off Topic

      Originally posted by CMH
      I'm not even sure it's an ego thing. I'm not convinced because to me Dwight Howard would have made it clear if it was an ego thing.

      I think Dwight is mostly immature and doesn't have the will to win like few athletes with his talent level. And I think Kobe is seeing it first hand and hates it because he knows if Dwight would just have his hunger, he would be better than O'Neal.

      Kobe and Shaq had their issues, but I think many let O'Neal do his lazy approach to the season because he did have the hunger and showed it when it mattered and everyone knew that.

      Howard, like others have mentioned, doesn't have it. He's not an Alpha Male, but he's being pushed around by one that feels he should be an Alpha Male. To me Dwight is getting frustrated with being asked/demanded to behave/play with a certain passion (he sees his career stats and thinks "I'm 20-14-2. What do I need to change?") and Kobe is getting frustrated because he can't get that fire out of him.

      But who knows. Maybe Kobe is willing to fight the guy so Dwight can be angry and play that way. I wouldn't put it past Kobe (considering comments he's made about leadership in the past) to agitate Dwight at this level just so it can translate on the court.
      Dwight can never be better than Shaq. He's lacking so much from footwork to an all around polished post game, its not possible.

      These two never liked eachother from jumpstreet. Even before Dwight went there he was talking about how Kobe ruined the trade before Houston jumped in the talks.

      Apparently there is no leadership being displayed here

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      • ProfessaPackMan
        Bamma
        • Mar 2008
        • 63852

        #6408
        Re: NBA Off Topic

        Originally posted by 13


        LMAOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
        Did he call him a sell out and say he's not a brother also because RG3 doesn't perm his Plats back like Bynum did to...whatever that is on his head?
        #RespectTheCulture

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        • TheShizNo1
          Asst 2 the Comm Manager
          • Mar 2007
          • 26341

          #6409
          So sick of Kobe/Dwight and the Lakers. I wish they'd either go back to winning championships are just sucking b/c this soap opera **** is annoying.
          Originally posted by Mo
          Just once I'd like to be the one they call a jerk off.
          Originally posted by Mo
          You underestimate my laziness
          Originally posted by Mo
          **** ya


          ...

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          • Eman5805
            MVP
            • Mar 2009
            • 3545

            #6410
            Re: NBA Off Topic

            Originally posted by TheShizNo1
            So sick of Kobe/Dwight and the Lakers. I wish they'd either go back to winning championships are just sucking b/c this soap opera **** is annoying.
            You mean Kobe should go back to winning championships while Dwight goes back to choking in the playoffs, right?

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            • 23
              yellow
              • Sep 2002
              • 66469

              #6411
              Re: NBA Off Topic

              Or they just "fade into bolivion" altogether

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              • Kashanova
                Hall Of Fame
                • Aug 2003
                • 12695

                #6412
                Re: NBA Off Topic

                I agree with 23, I don't think even with Dwight's hunger to win would he be better than Shaq. Shaq was blessed with more length and better footwork than Dwight. Not to mention that his Post game is light years ahead of Dwight

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                • Vni
                  Hall Of Fame
                  • Sep 2011
                  • 14833

                  #6413
                  Re: NBA Off Topic

                  Originally posted by 23
                  True but nobody really saw this happening man. The egos aren't affecting the team as much as the defense is as well as the turnovers.

                  I'm going to go ahead and say after last night Kobe needs to call himself The Black Hole... taking 26 shots to score 29 points. Dude is out there playing more iso ball than Joe Johnson continually.
                  Kobe's offense isn't the Lakers's issue. I know you wish it was but it's not. I also like how people are pointing out games where Kobe doesn't shot well but never when he shots really good. Chris Paul shot 10 for 25 or smething against the Lakers yet no one said anything about Kobe's defense or blamed Chris paul for taking that many shots.

                  The first thing coaches do when the opposition gets on a run they call for a timeout and put Kobe back in the game. Who was there yesterday to take and make ridiculous shots to keep the game close when the offense was stagnant and everybody's else hands was shaking? Kobe Bryant.

                  Look at Kobe's + - this season and tell me what you see. Look at his shooting % and tell me what you see?

                  If it wasn't for Kobe, D'Antoni would of been fired a long time ago because he's the one making stands and keeping the game close when the opposition is embarassing the whole franchise.

                  Kobe's defense is pretty bad most of the time tho. Kobe's hustle in defense is rarely as good as it was against the clippers.

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                  • 23
                    yellow
                    • Sep 2002
                    • 66469

                    #6414
                    Re: NBA Off Topic

                    Originally posted by Vni
                    Kobe's offense isn't the Lakers's issue. I know you wish it was but it's not. I also like how people are pointing out games where Kobe doesn't shot well but never when he shots really good. Chris Paul shot 10 for 25 or smething against the Lakers yet no one said anything about Kobe's defense or blamed Chris paul for taking that many shots.
                    I disagree completely, and Chris Paul has nothing to do with this.

                    As a matter of fact Chris Paul was not only told to shoot more but had to do it because Jamal Crawford was out. Not only that but he iced the game on top of that along with still getting his assists. That's the last dude you want to compare Kobe too because Paul is a much better team player...

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                    • 23
                      yellow
                      • Sep 2002
                      • 66469

                      #6415
                      Re: NBA Off Topic

                      I'm going to tone this one down a bit muself.. there are definitely more interesting things going on than a dude shooting the ball all the time...


                      I just wish the NBA didn't chuck so many games on league pass, then wonder why they have to fabricate viewing numbers every year.

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                      • Vni
                        Hall Of Fame
                        • Sep 2011
                        • 14833

                        #6416
                        Re: NBA Off Topic

                        Originally posted by 23
                        I disagree completely, and Chris Paul has nothing to do with this.

                        As a matter of fact Chris Paul was not only told to shoot more but had to do it because Jamal Crawford was out. Not only that but he iced the game on top of that along with still getting his assists. That's the last dude you want to compare Kobe too because Paul is a much better team player...
                        Who's the Jamal Crawford of the Lakers then? He's not injured, he isn't on the bench... There isn't one. See how deep the Clippers are even without Crawford and you tell me that's enough to give Paul a license to shoot more?

                        Ok. Make Kobe average 15 points per game. Find a hundred of points between the rest of the players now.

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                        • 23
                          yellow
                          • Sep 2002
                          • 66469

                          #6417
                          Re: NBA Off Topic

                          Originally posted by Vni
                          Who's the Jamal Crawford of the Lakers then? He's not injured, he isn't on the bench... There isn't one. See how deep the Clippers are even without Crawford and you tell me that's enough to give Paul a license to shoot more?

                          Ok. Make Kobe average 15 points per game. Find a hundred of points between the rest of the players now.

                          You'll never know unless the ball is passed around will you?

                          That's the problem with this team, they aren't one and this isn't helping..but what else is new.

                          You should go outside and try that kind of basketball in any kind of organized play and see how it turns out.

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                          • CMH
                            Making you famous
                            • Oct 2002
                            • 26203

                            #6418
                            Originally posted by Kashanova
                            I agree with 23, I don't think even with Dwight's hunger to win would he be better than Shaq. Shaq was blessed with more length and better footwork than Dwight. Not to mention that his Post game is light years ahead of Dwight
                            I don't mean to say Dwight would be better than Shaq, but I think it's easy to look at his size and talent level and wonder why he isn't able to be better.

                            Things like footwork and post game can be taught. Shaq didn't really have much of a post game when he came into the league either.


                            Sent from my mobile device.
                            "It may well be that we spectators, who are not divinely gifted as athletes, are the only ones able to truly see, articulate and animate the experience of the gift we are denied. And that those who receive and act out the gift of athletic genius must, perforce, be blind and dumb about it -- and not because blindness and dumbness are the price of the gift, but because they are its essence." - David Foster Wallace

                            "You'll not find more penny-wise/pound-foolish behavior than in Major League Baseball." - Rob Neyer

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                            • 23
                              yellow
                              • Sep 2002
                              • 66469

                              #6419
                              Re: NBA Off Topic

                              Originally posted by CMH
                              I don't mean to say Dwight would be better than Shaq, but I think it's easy to look at his size and talent level and wonder why he isn't able to be better.

                              Things like footwork and post game can be taught. Shaq didn't really have much of a post game when he came into the league either.


                              Sent from my mobile device.


                              Not true at all... Shaq had some great foot work and to be honest he was a smarter player on top of being a better player

                              So that brings me to the big dummy. If it ended badly with Shaq, why would Dwight crybaby his way to LA to play with Kobe ?

                              I guess he thought he could smile his way into it

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                              • Vni
                                Hall Of Fame
                                • Sep 2011
                                • 14833

                                #6420
                                Re: NBA Off Topic

                                Sure it doesn't, you think I believe ISO is the way to go? Or you think I find that pretty cool that Kobe has to play 40 minutes a game just to save the Lakers from getting embarassed?

                                Lakers need offensive plays to get everyone involved but they also have to make shots when it matters. But the biggest LA problem is the defense and you know it well.

                                It's the hustle, not Kobe's offense, look at his numbers a little bit. You guys just pick games where he shots a lot and say: Ah! Told you, he shots terribly!"

                                No look at his stats for the season. Infact he has never had that good percentages. D'Antoni can't even make Steve Nash and Dwight run a fraeking p'n'r lol. I have seen like a handfull of them since Nash is back, it's a joke.

                                Besides why even comparing Dwight to Shaq. Not even close.

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