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New York and LA aren't the only places where people overreact to things. Some people in Chicago like this guy are going a little crazy.
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<!-- THIS IS THE END OF THE ING AD MODULE. --><!-- END OF STUFF YOU SHOUDLN'T TOUCH. --><!-- content -->I think we can understand why John Paxson jumped Vinny Del Negro a couple years ago.
Paxson didn’t like the way the Del Negro was playing Joakim Noah after his injury. The Bulls’ inadequate basketball honcho was worried that the Bulls’ inept coach would cost the Bulls their young center.
After one game of extended Noah minutes, Paxson burst into Del Negro’s office and jumped him, or roughed him up, or grabbed his tie or something akin to a ruckus.
I wonder if someone plans to pummel Tom Thibodeau after Derrick Rose went into traction and took the Bulls’ season with him.
Rose missed the national TV game in Boston because of back spasms that racked him when he played against the pathetic Hornets last week, a game where the Bulls didn’t need him, a game where common sense should’ve reigned, a game that might cost the Bulls the season.
Not to sound like Chicken Little here, but without Rose, the Bulls are a lottery team.
Again.
I know, that’s obvious, but it needs to be stated so we understand that the care and feeding of Rose is the first order of the entire franchise, and that starts with the coach doling out playing time.
Rose said Sunday he was scared because it wasn’t the kind of pain he has played through previously. The Bulls’ only hope for a championship will see a specialist Monday.
That’s how coaches get jumped.
This is the worst thing to happen to Thibodeau and his myopic coaching philosophy of winning the game that night, period. Understandably, coaches cling to that view. That’s how’s they’re judged. Their record is their record is their validation. It’s what makes Thibodeau once of the best game coaches in the game today.
Thibodeau is manic about every game being everything. He uses his best players as much as he needs, even if he doesn’t need them that much and even if it’s bad for the long-term health of the player and franchise.
Thibodeau tried to justify his philosophy last week, saying if a player is healthy, he plays, and if not, he sits. The coach said he didn’t understand this notion of players sitting out the regular season.
Thibodeau, of course, also doesn’t understand this notion of resting his best players in 20-point games.
How can a guy who demands floor balance from his players display no such balance between game and season?
Especially this season. If ever there was a season demanding a lower gear or, geez, neutral if not park, this is it. All 66 games in 124 days. The NBA: Where Stupidity Happens.
Some teams, some coaches, however, have recognized the need for pacing. That’s not Thibodeau with his hand up.
Now, it needs to be said that if there is going to be blame, Rose himself gets some. He wants to play every game. That’s admirable. He needs some kind of long-term common sense, however. Maybe he and Thibodeau can get a group rate on that.
Assault and battery aside, the job of the general manager is to protect the franchise from the coach. Another big job of the general manager is to protect his job. It might not be written that way on the flow chart, but come on, people, wise up, connect the dots. Covering one’s backside sometimes is worth fighting over, or at least worth yanking a necktie.
And then there’s the tricky part amid all the other dynamics: Back pain is often inexplicable. It frequently is the kind of thing that just happens. It flares up and takes down the big and small alike. No warning, no conscience. Bang. Gotcha. So, if you don’t know why something happened, it’s hard to assess blame accurately.
Sports, however, has never required the accurate dumping of blame. I’m not saying such a view is fair. But it’s a view. Top players are more valuable than top coaches.
I hope Rose finds out it's nothing. I hope Thibodeau learns something. I hope Rose didn't make it worse by playing when he didn't have to play and when Thibodeau didn't have to play him. If Rose misses, I don't know, a month, and if people start unearthing who said what and when, it might turn out that Rose lied to Thibodeau, but you know what?
Thibodeau gets all the blame. The coach pays for it, not necessarily with his job, but that's also an option in a season built on title expectations, fair or not. Remember, fairness has nothing to do with pro sports.
After all, Dale Tallon still gets criticized for winning a Stanley Cup while Stan Bowman gets praised despite failing to fill holes on a team in a death spiral.
Especially insane that he says that without Rose the Bulls are a lottery team. Don't get me wrong, I'm not saying the Bulls can win a title or even get to the ECF without Rose, but a lottery team? They can't even make the playoffs? **** outta here.Comment
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What is their record without Rose? This season and all of last year?
Just wondering at the thought of them being a lottery team without him having any merit.Comment
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Any word on the back yet?
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Sam Smith says that with the emergence of Lin the Knicks should trade Carmelo and Tyson for Howard.
"You got it man. I don't watch hockey." SidVish"I thought LeBron James was just going to be another addition to help me score."
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They just said that his back problems aren't structural. They're just back spasms. Phew.
Whew, that’s a relief.
Bulls general manager Gar Forman Monday said the Bulls got good news—or at least as good as could be hoped for now—regarding Derrick Rose’s back problems.
Specialists Rose consulted Monday told the Bulls Rose doesn’t have any structural issues with his back, that it is spasms and they could disappear as quickly as they came.
“It really is day to day,” Forman said Monday.
“He met with specialists,” Forman said. “They reviewed the MRI and all the information. It’s what we thought all along. Nothing structural. It’s muscular. He’ll continue with therapy and rest. There is no timetable.”
However, Rose is likely to sit out Tuesday’s game against Sacramento. There is no indication that playing time or the load of extra games had anything to do with Rose’s problem.
“He’s basically having back spasms,” Forman said.
“It might be tomorrow (when it eases) or three days,” Forman said. “The good thing is there’s nothing structurally wrong. He’ll continue with the therapy as is.”
Rose has visited a back specialist and chiropractor as well as massage specialist and received regular treatment from team doctors and trainers.
“The results were what we thought all along,” said Forman.
Forman said like anyone who has had back spasms, there is no specific date you now they will be gone. So the Bulls and Rose will continue his medical regimen. There is no prohibition being put on when Rose will or will not play.
“Anytime there’s not something structurally wrong that’s good news,” Forman said. “He’ll have rest and therapy and hopefully be back soon. I know everyone makes fun of Tom (Thibodeau, Bulls coach) about him saying ‘day to day.’ But it really is day to day. He’s been telling you just what it is every day.”
Forman said anytime any player is hurt the discussion about treatment and whether to play involves the medical staff and, of course, the player has a say.
“How much he’s hurting and whether or not he can impact what has happened,” said Forman. “We are not going to put out there any player who is injured and we would never risk further injury to any player. We’re obviously going to be cautious,” said Forman. “We want to get him back to 100 percent and we’re confident he will be. Derrick’s a competitor,” Forman said. “He always wants to be out there competing and playing. That’s what you love about Derrick Rose. At the same I think he realizes that until he’s back to 100 percent he needs to get his rest and continue with therapy. Everyone wants a timetable. So do we. But there is not one. We do not know. It depends on how he responds to therapy and rest and how well he does. It’s day to day.”
Rose missed the last two games on the recently concluded nine-game road trip with his back issues after moving slowly through the game in New Orleans Wednesday and playing just 22 minutes. Rose told reporters Sunday his back has been bothering him during the entire two weeks trip, though he scored at least 30 points in three of the first four games of the trip.
Rose has missed seven games this season, one more than in his first three seasons combined. He missed five games in January due to turf toe or a sprained toe, which also seemed to go as quickly as it appeared. Rose said he has no problems from the toe injury, which was supposed to be a lingering thing. Rose also is averaging 35.5 minutes per game this season, the fewest of his career. He is averaging 22 points and a career high 7.8 assists.
The Bulls schedule eases somewhat now with five home games and no back to backs before the All Star break. All indications are Rose intends to be in Orlando to be a starter for the Eastern Conference, which was voted by the fans. Forman says the Bulls have no plans to add a player at this time given Rose’s situation."You got it man. I don't watch hockey." SidVish"I thought LeBron James was just going to be another addition to help me score."
Ricky Davis"The difference between stupidity and genius is that genius has its limits." Albert EinsteinComment
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That's a relief collective bulls sigh swear I heard it.
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Is it the worst thing in the world for the Bulls to just hold him out until after the ASB? They have no B2B so why not just let him get some extra rest since that's the best cure available for it?
And isn't Thibs coaching the East All Stars as well? If he is, then I wouldn't be surprised if he limited Rose's minutes in that game either just to be safe.#RespectTheCultureComment
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He won't even limit his minutes in games that they're up by 20 with two minutes to play in, so he definitely isn't going to do it in the All-Star game. He's nuts about this particular thing.
I'm hoping they do just hold him out though. The way I see it, the more all these other guys get to play without Rose and win, the better they can be come playoff time.Comment
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Yes you did lol
I didn't think it was anything serious. Good to hear that it has been confirmed. Really, looking at the schedule, the Bulls would be wise to just let him sit the next 3 games. Sacramento, Boston and New Jersey all at home. We don't need him to win those games. Need him to get to full strength for the long haul.Comment
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They're definitely a playoff team without him. A starting lineup of CJ Watson, Rip Hamilton, Luol Deng, Carlos Boozer and Joakim Noah would absolutely go to the playoffs. And you've got a solid bench with Lucas, Korver, Asik and Brewer.NFL: Pittsburgh Steelers
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And don't forget Gibson and Butler.Comment
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Lol Monty got jokesIn response to a question about whether there was any news to report of regarding Eric Gordon’s knee injury, Hornets coach Monty Williams said that he did not.
“It is what it is. Blame LeBron James” Williams said.Comment
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Yeah, but can they advance? I don't know. I am not confident in Carlos Boozer and his spray-on hair. So far, Rip has been in and out also, so it remains to be seen if he can be healthy and effective in the Playoffs for us. I think those two guys are key in how far we go in the Playoffs.Comment
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