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  • OSUFan_88
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    • Jul 2004
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    #16
    Re: What Is Your Opinion On A Healthy Andrew Bynum?

    Bynum is a product of what is around him and thus less pressure to be great. If he were in the same situation as Howard is in Orlando, I doubt very much that he'd be as successful.

    It's the main reason why stats don't always tell the whole story. Howard is a better defender, more athletic, more durable, and a better rebounder. Bynum is better to much better in post moves and scoring.

    Not saying Bynum isn't a very good player, just saying that Bynum isn't the game changer that Howard is.
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    • ex carrabba fan
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      • Oct 2004
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      #17
      Re: What Is Your Opinion On A Healthy Andrew Bynum?

      I just don't know how anyone can tell you with a straight face that Andrew is even in the same league as Dwight. I don't care if Andrew had three healthy knees.

      I would hesitate to take more than 4-5 players in the entire league ahead of Dwight on my team, whereas I wouldn't hesitate to take 4-5 centers ahead of Andrew.

      The entire topic of "if he's healthy" is not too productive to begin with.

      But my opinion of a healthy Andrew Bynum is that he's a nice 2nd or 3rd option, he rebounds pretty well and can change some shots. His attitude is awful at times and he let's his defense suffer if he isn't involved offensively. I don't think his motor is in anyway comparable to the top centers of the league and I think he winds easier than the top centers. He's great in bursts though.

      Dwight Howard is a franchise player. Andrew Bynum is a complimentary player.
      Last edited by ex carrabba fan; 12-14-2011, 02:18 PM.

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      • Rockie_Fresh88
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        • Oct 2011
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        #18
        Re: What Is Your Opinion On A Healthy Andrew Bynum?

        Originally posted by ex carrabba fan
        I would take for sure Marc Gasol, Horford, Noah before a healthy Andrew Bynum
        There is no way in blue hell I would take Horford over a healthy Bynum. Noah is debatable but definitely not the other two. Al Horford is not even a true center, he's very undersized and fits the PF role. Noah doesn't have the offense of bynum. Marc Gasol has potential but his offensive game and agility isn't there yet. Bynum's length gets him a lot of offensive rebounds and blocks. Ur right Bynum is a great 2-3 option for a star. Dwight is a first option who needs a co-star.
        Last edited by Rockie_Fresh88; 12-14-2011, 02:35 PM.
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        • ex carrabba fan
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          • Oct 2004
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          #19
          Re: What Is Your Opinion On A Healthy Andrew Bynum?

          Originally posted by mars5541
          There is no way in blue hell I would take Marc Gasol or Horford over a healthy Bynum. Noah is debatable but definitely not the other two. Bynum's length gets him a lot of offensive rebounds and blocks. Ur right Bynum is a great 2-3 option for a star. Dwight is a first option who needs a co-star.
          Who me? Lol, um, yes I most definitely would.

          Marc Gasol has the smarts of his older bro, but the body of a bear. His soft touch around the hoop is surprising. I'd take his consistency over Andrew's.

          Horford? Give me the guy who can extend the defense, is a bully in the paint and rebounds with the best of them. His motor is only trumped by Howard and Noah.

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          • ex carrabba fan
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            #20
            Re: What Is Your Opinion On A Healthy Andrew Bynum?

            And also, I apologize for not even mentioning Tyson Chandler. Not saying he's better or worse than Bynum, but he deserves to be in the topic.

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            • Rockie_Fresh88
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              • Oct 2011
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              #21
              Re: What Is Your Opinion On A Healthy Andrew Bynum?

              Originally posted by ex carrabba fan
              Who me? Lol, um, yes I most definitely would.

              Marc Gasol has the smarts of his older bro, but the body of a bear. His soft touch around the hoop is surprising. I'd take his consistency over Andrew's.

              Horford? Give me the guy who can extend the defense, is a bully in the paint and rebounds with the best of them. His motor is only trumped by Howard and Noah.
              Okay u make Valid Points
              But I still would take Bynum's length (crazy wingspan even for 7'1) Although I love the hustle and energy Noah, Horford, and Gasol have. i know Bynum can be mean at times lol but Imagine if Pau had that.

              Edit: Oh yeah, Chandler is one of my favorite centers in the league.
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              • nccomicfan
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                • May 2006
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                #22
                Re: What Is Your Opinion On A Healthy Andrew Bynum?

                The most over hyped, over valued player in the league and the NBA equivalent of Ndamukong Suh

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                • youvalss
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                  • Feb 2007
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                  #23
                  Re: What Is Your Opinion On A Healthy Andrew Bynum?

                  In my opinion, an injured (but still capable of playing, obviously) Bynum is among top-3 centers in the NBA. A healthy Bynum? I don't remember much about that (it's been a while), but I think he can be the best center in the NBA. He has 1 thing that Howard will never have: a mentality of a center.
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                  • youvalss
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                    #24
                    Re: What Is Your Opinion On A Healthy Andrew Bynum?

                    Originally posted by mars5541
                    I think Howard world still be better because of strength, athleticism, and defensive presence. However a healthy bynum would be wayy better offensively in the post than Dwight. Great potential rivalry imo.

                    No doubt allstar talent. Why are we saying could have? He just turned 24...
                    I don't think Howard is stronger than Bynum. With all due respect to Howard's muscles and athleticism, I don't think he has anything on Howard's strength. I'm not sure I would consider Howard among top 3 strongest big men.
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                    • ex carrabba fan
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                      • Oct 2004
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                      #25
                      Re: What Is Your Opinion On A Healthy Andrew Bynum?

                      Originally posted by youvalss
                      In my opinion, an injured (but still capable of playing, obviously) Bynum is among top-3 centers in the NBA. A healthy Bynum? I don't remember much about that (it's been a while), but I think he can be the best center in the NBA. He has 1 thing that Howard will never have: a mentality of a center.
                      What on earth makes him a top 3 center injured.

                      That's just

                      Howard doesn't have the mentality of a center? What does that even mean.

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                      • Weeks
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                        • Aug 2009
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                        #26
                        Re: What Is Your Opinion On A Healthy Andrew Bynum?

                        Bynum when healthy is simply is not as good as Howard.

                        Howard is a better defender/rebounder than bynum.

                        Howard's worst rebounding season (10.0), is just under bynums best (10.2--and he only played 35 games that season). And the 10.0, that was Howard's rookie year, now he gives you 13 a night consistently.

                        Howard is a better defender, 3 time DPOY should say enough.

                        Howard is also better offensively. While Bynum has better post moves, Howard puts the ball in the basket. I'm a lot more scared on offense guarding Dwight than going up against Bynum.

                        Not to mention Howard has averaged Howard has averaged 20+ pts three times in his career, bynum's BEST was 15.0.

                        If I could have both of them in a draft, both guaranteed to never get injured its Howard hands down.

                        Bynum is still good, I'd say top 5 center probably but he is not on the level or howard.
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                        • Rockie_Fresh88
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                          #27
                          Re: What Is Your Opinion On A Healthy Andrew Bynum?

                          Originally posted by Weeks
                          Bynum when healthy is simply is not as good as Howard.

                          Howard is a better defender/rebounder than bynum.

                          Howard's worst rebounding season (10.0), is just under bynums best (10.2--and he only played 35 games that season). And the 10.0, that was Howard's rookie year, now he gives you 13 a night consistently.

                          Howard is a better defender, 3 time DPOY should say enough.

                          Howard is also better offensively. While Bynum has better post moves, Howard puts the ball in the basket. I'm a lot more scared on offense guarding Dwight than going up against Bynum.

                          Not to mention Howard has averaged Howard has averaged 20+ pts three times in his career, bynum's BEST was 15.0.

                          If I could have both of them in a draft, both guaranteed to never get injured its Howard hands down.

                          Bynum is still good, I'd say top 5 center probably but he is not on the level or howard.
                          I understand where you coming from but u can't forget that bynum averages less points because he plays alongside Pau and kobe. He also averages less rebounds because he plays less than Odom and Gasol. THe fact that he still got 9-10 a night beside them is outstanding. Just because you are more scared of Dwight doesn't mean he's better offensively. I'm more scared of Shaq then Hakeem but who's really better offensively. You see my points? I agree Dwight is better I'm just pointing a lot of "potholes" in your arguments.
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                          • Weeks
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                            • Aug 2009
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                            #28
                            Re: What Is Your Opinion On A Healthy Andrew Bynum?

                            Originally posted by mars5541
                            I understand where you coming from but u can't forget that bynum averages less points because he plays alongside Pau and kobe. He also averages less rebounds because he plays less than Odom and Gasol. THe fact that he still got 9-10 a night beside them is outstanding. Just because you are more scared of Dwight doesn't mean he's better offensively. I'm more scared of Shaq then Hakeem but who's really better offensively. You see my points? I agree Dwight is better I'm just pointing a lot of "potholes" in your arguments.
                            Ok, I agree with you.
                            Last edited by Weeks; 12-14-2011, 10:18 PM.
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                            • PrettyT11
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                              #29
                              Re: What Is Your Opinion On A Healthy Andrew Bynum?

                              Originally posted by mars5541
                              Just because you are more scared of Dwight doesn't mean he's better offensively. I'm more scared of Shaq then Hakeem but who's really better offensively.
                              Shaq was the better offensive player. Just because Hakeem had more moves doesn't mean he was better. Shaq scored you more points, was far more efficient, drew more attention from the defense, and because of all the fouls he drew he kept his team in the free throw bonus. There is no question Shaq was the more dominate offensive force. In his prime he was giving you 27 to 30 while leading the league in FG percentage almost every year. Hakeem had by far more moves but he didn't put the ball in the basket like Shaq and we all know your goal on offense is to score.

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                              • Rockie_Fresh88
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                                #30
                                Re: What Is Your Opinion On A Healthy Andrew Bynum?

                                Originally posted by PrettyT11
                                Shaq was the better offensive player. Just because Hakeem had more moves doesn't mean he was better. Shaq scored you more points, was far more efficient, drew more attention from the defense, and because of all the fouls he drew he kept his team in the free throw bonus. There is no question Shaq was the more dominate offensive force. In his prime he was giving you 27 to 30 while leading the league in FG percentage almost every year. Hakeem had by far more moves but he didn't put the ball in the basket like Shaq and we all know your goal on offense is to score.
                                Wilt Chamberlain averaged almost 70% on his shots while averaging 24 ppg. When he averaged 50 ppg he stil shot over 50%. Sure Shaq has better post moves but Wilt demanded triple teams, scored more points, was more efficient because he averaged way more assist than shaq for his career, and don't get me started Free throw attempts per game. Therefore Wilt is a better offensive player than Shaq and Hakeem.

                                Nah I'm just trolling Guy, u make a good point.
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