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Re: What Is Your Opinion On A Healthy Andrew Bynum?
I think this is Bynum's breakout year. too bad he's suspended five gamesLast edited by Rockie_Fresh88; 12-15-2011, 01:32 AM.#1 Laker fan
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Re: What Is Your Opinion On A Healthy Andrew Bynum?
No we didn't not in the least bit. Comparing Shaq and Hakeem is comparing two elite offensive forces who could without any doubt carry the load and get it done. Bynum on the the other hand hasn't shown he can be anything more than a third or fourth option and has never came close to putting up Dwight level numbers let alone Shaq and Hakeem. Dwight on the other hand has been the offensive driving force on an NBA finals level team. I don't care how many more moves Bynum might have his output isn't anywhere near the level of Dwight's 23 points a night on 60 percent shooting. There is no comparison.Comment
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Re: What Is Your Opinion On A Healthy Andrew Bynum?
Yeah I backed out quickly because I knew this was the instant response.
Dont think Dwight is anything near Shaq nor Bynum for Hakeem. But stylistically they play similar games, is all I was getting at. There's a distinct difference.Follow me on Twitter@DrewGarrisonSBNComment
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Re: What Is Your Opinion On A Healthy Andrew Bynum?
Let me make it quick:
Offense wins games. Defense wins championships. Who's the better defender? There's your answer to this question.Comment
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Re: What Is Your Opinion On A Healthy Andrew Bynum?
Jesus, Shaq and Hakeem somehow made their way into a thread about a hypothetical basketball player that has yet to exist.
Keep dreaming guys.Comment
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This is why I didn't elaborate. Knew instant knee jerk and lack of consideration would butcher the point and that would be the general response.
To put it to you a simpler, Dwight is more reliant upon raw physical gifts and power, Bynum is more footwork and post moves.
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Re: What Is Your Opinion On A Healthy Andrew Bynum?
I've always felt like Bynum was the type of guy who didn't work hard all the time in practice, or didn't play hard all game. Like, he just gives me the impression of the guy who almost reaches his potential, but just never got there because he didn't work for it. You know, the guy who just gets by.
I could be wrong though. But I've always heard that he has so much potential, yet he rarely shows it fully, or he doesn't show it enough. He does have a nice offensive game, but he also came into the league as more of a all-around/balanced player. Dwight was more of an athlete who needed to develop, and I'd say he's developing his post game nicely.Comment
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Fair assessment in my opinion. Bynum works hard though, he wouldn't even be more than a name in a bucket otherwise. He's not naturally gifted ala Dwight, he's had to work hard on his game to get where he is.
Bynums offensive role has been very limited, mainly by design. I'm really hoping they utilize him, finally, this year. His touches are way too low, I'm hoping with Mike Brown he doubles his FGA's.
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Re: What Is Your Opinion On A Healthy Andrew Bynum?
None taken. lol
I honestly don't know if you have something against Bynum or whatever. But seriously though Ex? You'd take 5 players ahead of a healthy Bynum? Joakim Noah? The hell man?
If all those guys were coming out of college, I guarantee you that Howard and Bynum would be 1 and 2. You're not picking Noah ahead of Bynum as the cornerstone of a dying franchise. What is that? lol
If you don't think that a healthy Bynum is as good as Howard, that's fine. But to suggest that a healthy Andrew Bynum could never be in the same breath as Howard is going overboard.
To put things into perspective, here is another look at Bynum's production:
Bynum
22 PPG
67% FG
70% FT
13 REB
2 BLK
Those are Bynum's numbers when Pau Gasol went down during two separate stretches in 2010. Those are all star numbers. Nobody that you mentioned gives you that kind of production.
The only player that does is Howard. And these numbers come from the 09-10 season. So it's fair to assume that Bynum would have improved since then.
22 PPG on 67% is better than Howard has EVER done. And yet some of you think that Bynum could never be on Howard's level. I really fail to understand that. And this is coming AFTER his injuries.
I would say that Bynum is a better rebounder than Howard. It's perfectly reasonable to assume that his rebound numbers would be higher if he wasn't playing with the guys he plays with. Howard's rebounding prowess is inflated. Kobe Bryant averages 5 rebounds a game. That's the same amount that The Magic's second best rebounder on the team gets. lol
Howard is a better defender. But the gap isn't that wide. Bynum does a good job of getting his hands up on defense when in position and blocks/alters his fair share of shot attempts. He also doesn't allow easy baskets at the rim as we've all seen. lol
Strength is debatable. But I'd give that to Bynum. He's 20 pounds heavier than Howard. That is a huge factor and anybody who has played ball would know this from experience. I don't know how anybody can outright say that Howard is stronger. Especially factoring in the weight difference.
Bynum is the better offensive player now and he's 2 years younger than Dwight. He is very skilled in the post, offering up an array of moves from hooks over both shoulders, to a turnaround jumpshot. He can also step out and hit the 10 footer. Plus his size is just too much of a problem for most. He's 7 feet tall and long as hell. He is physical down low and has more weight on him than most that would guard him. His physical attributes alone make him a tough cover with or without the skillset he possesses.
He also makes his freethrows at a decent clip which makes him an even tougher cover as you can't just hack him and send him to the line.
So again, while I'm not saying that Bynum is definitely better, I am saying that when healthy, especially if he never had his previous injuries, Bynum could be just as good or even better than Howard.Last edited by TMagic; 12-15-2011, 04:45 PM.Comment
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Re: What Is Your Opinion On A Healthy Andrew Bynum?
TMagic, I have nothing against Andrew whatsoever. It more seems like you're making him out to something he simply isn't. A better rebounder than Dwight Howard? I don't care what sort of stats you show me, that's not anywhere remotely true.
Am I the only one who would take Noah, Horford and Marc Gasol before Andrew Bynum?
I think I've seen more than my fair share of Andrew Bynum's skillset over the years. He really isn't that great, I'd rather take Noah/Horford/Gasol's defense/agility/motor/consistency/scoring abilities over Andrew.
Is it really that much of a stretch to take those three guys before Andrew? Ask GM's, I think I know what the answer is but it's all good.Comment
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I honestly don't think GM's would. Especially if we're talking about a pre-injury Bynum.
This is the same guy the Lakers refused to part with for Jason Kidd who was still doing his thing. It was the same year that he was almost averaging a triple double.
The numbers I gave in my previous post is the most fair way to look at Bynum. Those numbers are right there with Howard's. And you wouldn't blink at taking Howard before any of them.
Bynum's rebounding numbers would have been right there with Howards if it wasn't for Lamar doing work on the glass during those same stretches in the season. Again, the second best rebounder on the Magic is averaging a weak 5.5 rebounds a game, which is right where Beans is at himself. That shouldn't be ignored. You honestly don't think that factors into Howard's rebounding prowess?
Not to mention that Bynum plays alongside Odom and one of the best rebounding guards in the league.Last edited by TMagic; 12-15-2011, 05:19 PM.Comment
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