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  • Outcast
    Rookie
    • Nov 2009
    • 351

    #496
    Re: Game Discussion 12/25/11-1/1/12

    Originally posted by J_Posse512
    Miller starts I believe, but point taken.

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    I don't see any reason why Karl would bench Ty Lawson for Andre Miller...

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    • PrettyT11
      MVP
      • Jul 2008
      • 3220

      #497
      Re: Game Discussion 12/25/11-1/1/12

      Originally posted by Bumi
      Here's why I'd put OKC's bench ahead of Chicago's. Chicago's bench doesn't provide instant offense. They're talented, but highly defensive oriented. Almost to a fault. OKC's can not only maintain leads, but extend them, while also playing competently on the defensive end.

      I mean, OKC has a two guard coming off the bench that, in my opinion, is better and has more potential than everyone on the Bulls roster not named Rose.

      Just my opinion.
      Valid points. Our bench is deep with very solid guys at every spot but none of them can just get buckets. Watson would be our best scorer off the bench. They are easily the best defensive bench though. Outside of Harden though there really is no offense on OKC's bench either. Cook is nothing more than a 3pt shooter now days and the bigs don't really give you anything offensively.

      As far as Harden goes i would easily take him over every guy on our bench. Harden is a damn good player. I would still take Noah over him for all that Noah brings to the table though.

      I would without a doubt rank the Mavs bench ahead of OKC. I would also have to think about putting Portland's and Denver's bench ahead of them. In Portland it doesn't matter if it's Matthews or Crawford they both give you that instant firepower then you have the very solid Batum plus Kurt Thomas when Camby gets back. Denver is deep as hell and you have starters on their bench. They have arguably the best backup PG in Dre Miller and then you have a mix of Rudy Fernandez, Corey Brewer or Gallo, Al Harrington, Birdman, and the rookie Faried who I believe will be a damn good player. That is a very deep bench.
      Last edited by PrettyT11; 12-25-2011, 09:21 PM.

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      • PrettyT11
        MVP
        • Jul 2008
        • 3220

        #498
        Re: Game Discussion 12/25/11-1/1/12

        Originally posted by J_Posse512
        Miller starts I believe, but point taken.

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        Lawson starts with Miller backing him up.

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        • Altimus
          Chelsea, Assemble!
          • Nov 2004
          • 27283

          #499
          Re: Game Discussion 12/25/11-1/1/12

          Originally posted by SteelersFreak
          Everyone's gonna talk about DRose, but Luol Deng won that game.
          Without question. His constant pressure and disrupting the flow of the Lakers offense was crucial.

          With that, what a win and what a start to the season. Lakers got out worked down the stretch with a cameo by Rose. Either way, 3 tough games still left on this west coast road trip.

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          • StankonYa
            Pro
            • Sep 2006
            • 908

            #500
            Re: Game Discussion 12/25/11-1/1/12

            Originally posted by Bumi
            Here's why I'd put OKC's bench ahead of Chicago's. Chicago's bench doesn't provide instant offense. They're talented, but highly defensive oriented. Almost to a fault. OKC's can not only maintain leads, but extend them, while also playing competently on the defensive end.

            I mean, OKC has a two guard coming off the bench that, in my opinion, is better and has more potential than everyone on the Bulls roster not named Rose.

            Just my opinion.
            I think it would be better to bring Rip off the bench, and C.J Watson can ball...don't care what no one say.

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            • Rawdeal28
              Swiitch U? lol
              • Oct 2007
              • 7407

              #501
              Re: Game Discussion 12/25/11-1/1/12

              Originally posted by Boltman
              It's almost as if you sit back, say nothing the entire game then come in to get your jabs in on Kobe huh?

              We get it already, damn Kash yer schtick is old & tired.
              once u realize that Kash secretly loves kobe, his posts wont bother you.
              Originally posted by ex carrabba fan
              Lol Kobe and his penetration getting him into trouble
              "on hoping there is a PSN flash sale before Valentine's Day"
              Man there are no flashers... now what are we going to do for vd
              I'm sure there's plenty of prostitutes you could pay if you really want vd.
              yea but will they take psn cards
              Depends on what area of a hooker you would use to redeem them.

              lol

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              • J_Posse
                Greatness Personified
                • Jun 2005
                • 11255

                #502
                Originally posted by Outcast
                I don't see any reason why Karl would bench Ty Lawson for Andre Miller...
                He loves Miller and Lawson would be a spark plug off the bench. I thought I heard them say on NBATV that Miller would start.

                I can't believe I'm saying this, but I miss Stuart Scott. Where is that glass-eyed fool?

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                • Altimus
                  Chelsea, Assemble!
                  • Nov 2004
                  • 27283

                  #503
                  Re: Game Discussion 12/25/11-1/1/12

                  Originally posted by Bumi
                  Whatever makes you feel better I guess. Lakers win with Bynum in my opinion. And comfortably.


                  Anyways, Thunder are looking sluggish. Don't like Westbrook nor Durant's level of play right now. Need to pick it up. Way too much standing around on defense.



                  Take your Bulls hating cap off man.

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                  • Weeks
                    L Corleone
                    • Aug 2009
                    • 2990

                    #504
                    Re: Game Discussion 12/25/11-1/1/12

                    Originally posted by Bumi
                    Here's why I'd put OKC's bench ahead of Chicago's. Chicago's bench doesn't provide instant offense. They're talented, but highly defensive oriented. Almost to a fault. OKC's can not only maintain leads, but extend them, while also playing competently on the defensive end.

                    I mean, OKC has a two guard coming off the bench that, in my opinion, is better and has more potential than everyone on the Bulls roster not named Rose.

                    Just my opinion.
                    Yes. I just believe the bulls have the most complete bench at every position. Offense is an issue, but I just believe the bench has many moments where it can provide a spark that get the bulls into the game. They also have what I believe is the best backup big men, as well as Ronnie brewer.

                    But I've watched OKC play and I'm always amazed at how good Harden is offensively, and how he could be a 20+ ppg scorer if he started

                    I would just rather have the Bulls', but that's my opinion (and probably a small bias)
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                    • PrettyT11
                      MVP
                      • Jul 2008
                      • 3220

                      #505
                      Re: Game Discussion 12/25/11-1/1/12

                      Originally posted by J_Posse512
                      He loves Miller and Lawson would be a spark plug off the bench. I thought I heard them say on NBATV that Miller would start.

                      I can't believe I'm saying this, but I miss Stuart Scott. Where is that glass-eyed fool?

                      from Bills Backer Clubhouse
                      I can't see him giving Lawson the keys last year though and then turning around and moving him to the bench behind Miller. If lawson is the PG of the future there really is no reason the move him to the bench now. Plus Miller would work better with the second unit they have. I could see him throwing those lobs to Birdman and Faried all day.

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                      • Weeks
                        L Corleone
                        • Aug 2009
                        • 2990

                        #506
                        Re: Game Discussion 12/25/11-1/1/12

                        Originally posted by J_Posse512
                        He loves Miller and Lawson would be a spark plug off the bench. I thought I heard them say on NBATV that Miller would start.

                        I can't believe I'm saying this, but I miss Stuart Scott. Where is that glass-eyed fool?

                        from Bills Backer Clubhouse
                        I remember during the ESPY's hearing he had cancer. Hope he's doing well.

                        Edit: and it's confirmed miller starts? If so I'm picking him up in fantasy.
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                        • 1Rose
                          Banned
                          • Jun 2011
                          • 2562

                          #507
                          Re: Game Discussion 12/25/11-1/1/12

                          Originally posted by Bumi
                          If you have a rebuttal, I'd love to hear it.
                          Harden is good, but don't let your love affair blur reality.

                          3 guys on our bench could start on your team. Sans Harden, your bench is average.

                          Don't know how you can knock a bench for playing too good of defense, but Ive seen stranger arguments on this forum. Sure they don't come in and light it up, but once again youre only referring to Harden.

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                          • J_Posse
                            Greatness Personified
                            • Jun 2005
                            • 11255

                            #508
                            Originally posted by PrettyT11
                            I can't see him giving Lawson the keys last year though and then turning around and moving him to the bench behind Miller. If lawson is the PG of the future there really is no reason the move him to the bench now. Plus Miller would work better with the second unit they have. I could see him throwing those lobs to Birdman and Faried all day.
                            More great points. Miller and Lawson are so good it wouldn't matter who started or not. For the sake of the futute Lawson will likely start.

                            Its interesting that people claim the point guard position is getting bigger and faster, but there are a lot or smallish starting point guard. D.J. Augustine, Jameer Nelson, Chris Paul and Ty Lawson to name a few.

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                            • PrettyT11
                              MVP
                              • Jul 2008
                              • 3220

                              #509
                              Re: Game Discussion 12/25/11-1/1/12

                              Originally posted by Weeks
                              I remember during the ESPY's hearing he had cancer. Hope he's doing well.

                              Edit: and it's confirmed miller starts? If so I'm picking him up in fantasy.
                              Nothing has been said about who starts as far as I know. Miller and lawson both started the first preseaon game and Lawson, Nene, and I think another starter didn't play in the second one.

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                              • J_Posse
                                Greatness Personified
                                • Jun 2005
                                • 11255

                                #510
                                Poor Hedo, lol. He doesn't have the slightest chance against Durantula.

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