Game Discussion Thread 12/25/11-1/1/12

[ZB9]

Re: Game Discussion 12/25/11-1/1/12

Someone please tell the Mavericks that the season has started. Id be much obliged.

[DocHolliday]

Re: Game Discussion 12/25/11-1/1/12

I got served? Lmfao, go back to 2002 buddy.

I guess I should start making up things to look smarter too. I don't know what I was thinking saying a guy who's averaged a double double over 9 years was better than a two year swingman who is relatively inefficient has yet to crack a starting lineup over a defensive specialist. I must be a fool. Go back to your hole.

Sorry for the delay. There is not a GM in the league that would take Boozer over Harden at this point. And it is also widely considered that Boozer has one of the worst contracts in the league at the moment. Who is still living in 2004 now dude?

[1Rose]

Re: Game Discussion 12/25/11-1/1/12

2004 or now, you're still wrong.

[Drewski]

About the contract or Harden. Just curious from Bulls fan perspective

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[1Rose]

Re: Game Discussion 12/25/11-1/1/12

Harden. He may be overpaid, no doubt, but don't know too many GMs that wouldn't want a proven double double entity on their team.

Athletic swingmen are a dime a dozen.

[Drewski]

Re: Game Discussion 12/25/11-1/1/12

Harden. He may be overpaid, no doubt, but don't know too many GMs that wouldn't want a proven double double entity on their team.

Athletic swingmen are a dime a dozen.

That's a great point, but Harden is a step above most athletic swing men, wouldn't you agree? His shot seems to only grow more consistent, he plays solid defense, and he's on his rookie contract. Guy like Harden is unlikely to get BIG money, probably something more like what Afflalo received (many people feel like that's the benchmark). I'd take Harden over Afflalo. That's just me though.

[RedSceptile]

Re: Game Discussion 12/25/11-1/1/12

I'd take Harden over Afflalo as well you aren't the only one. Harden reminds me of Manu Ginobili a lot, Harden just needs more find tuning.

Regarding Harden versus Boozer, Boozer's on the wrong side of 30 but not sure if turning this into a debate is even worthwhile imo.

[Vast]

Re: Game Discussion 12/25/11-1/1/12

Anybody have any streaming sites for the heat game tonight???? Send me a PM thanks!

[PrettyT11]

Re: Game Discussion 12/25/11-1/1/12

And it is also widely considered that Boozer has one of the worst contracts in the league at the moment.

No it isn't. Now let's not go that far. i know he has struggled in the playoffs and isn't doing great right now but let's not go too far. He got market value for what he brought to the table and not to mention we weren't the only team wanting to put an offer on the table. All Star level big men make over 12 million a year. Hell DeAndre Jordan just got 10 million a year and he has been a backup until right now. Tyson Chandler just got around 15 million a year and he has never been an all star and the Bobcats just gave him away two years ago. I could go on. The point is big men make big money.

Boozer's contract wasn't even the worst signed in his free agent class. His deal looks a lot better than Joe Johnson 6 year 119 million dollar contract. Now that deal has been called one of if not the worst ever. Then we can also throw in Gilbert's and Rashard Lewis contracts as ones that are far worse than Boozer's. I'm sure there are more but those are ones that instantly jump out off the top of my head.

Edit-- Just throw it out there for more perspective Boozer is making less this year than Elton Brand and about the same as Luis Scola. Again big men get paid. So he isn't the most highly overpaid cat out there. He and Brand signed the same deal when they both hit free agency and Boozer was coming off better season and actually had less injury concerns than Brand.

[King_B_Mack]

Re: Game Discussion 12/25/11-1/1/12

I'd take Harden over Afflalo as well you aren't the only one. Harden reminds me of Manu Ginobili a lot, Harden just needs more find tuning.

Regarding Harden versus Boozer, Boozer's on the wrong side of 30 but not sure if turning this into a debate is even worthwhile imo.

Wrong side of 30? Dude JUST turned 30 last month.

[Drewski]

Re: Game Discussion 12/25/11-1/1/12

Edit-- Just throw it out there for more perspective Boozer is making less this year than Elton Brand and about the same as Luis Scola. Again big men get paid. So he isn't the most highly overpaid cat out there. He and Brand signed the same deal when they both hit free agency and Boozer was coming off better season and actually had less injury concerns than Brand.

Hold on. Scola is one of the more ideal contracts in the league. Far from overpaid.

Boozer
13.5 mil
15.0 mill
15.3 mil
16.8 mil

60.6 mil

Scola
8.5 mil
9.4 mil
10.2 mil
11.0 mil

39.1 mil

21.5 million total difference

Boozer, in my opinion, can't even begin to be compared to Scola's contract.

(Not pointed out to call out Boozer, but Scola is a very effective PF + contract)

[PrettyT11]

Re: Game Discussion 12/25/11-1/1/12

Hold on. Scola is one of the more ideal contracts in the league. Far from overpaid.

Boozer
13.5 mil
15.0 mill
15.3 mil
16.8 mil

60.6 mil

Scola
8.5 mil
9.4 mil
10.2 mil
11.0 mil

39.1 mil

21.5 million total difference

Boozer, in my opinion, can't even begin to be compared to Scola's contract.

(Not pointed out to call out Boozer, but Scola is a very effective PF + contract)

My bad saw a typo. It said 4 years 57mil and it actually is 5 years 47 mil. Scratch the part about Scola then lol.

[RedSceptile]

Re: Game Discussion 12/25/11-1/1/12

Wrong side of 30? Dude JUST turned 30 last month.

Yeah I know.,

Damn my boy TMac short on that jump hook.

So PUMPED FOR THIS HEAT AND CELTICS GAME.

[Champion8877]

Re: Game Discussion 12/25/11-1/1/12

Anybody have any streaming sites for the heat game tonight???? Send me a PM thanks!

sent you one, check your PMs

[King_B_Mack]

Re: Game Discussion 12/25/11-1/1/12

No Paul Pierce tonight or the next game either according to ESPN Scorecenter alert on my phone. Might be a long night for the C's.